nVidia to cut 5 European partners

[thilanliyan]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index....=view&id=9767&Itemid=1

"they have to cut the weak to give a better chance for the big ones to survive."

Lol that sounds funny for some reason.

 

[apoppin]

who is cutting who?

sounds like Foxconn and Club 3D *jumped off* the Nvidia ship
:Q

 

[ronnn]

My guess is the current enviro/fiscal crisis will cut alot more before we are through.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin
who is cutting who?

sounds like Foxconn and Club 3D *jumped off* the Nvidia ship
:Q

Doesn't really matter. Things are very tough all over. Congress is actually trying to work on something. That in itself shows the country is in deep.

 

[Quiksilver]

Hmm not many Euro companies I can name besides the big ones.

 

[postmortemIA]

nvidia is playing intel game from yrs ago when they made mobo makers sell AMD mobos in white boxes with no labels... except that nvidia has no monopoly. They made non-competitive product and now their partners have to pay price? no wonder big ones are trying to get ATi chips - they sell.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
nvidia is playing intel game from yrs ago when they made mobo makers sell AMD mobos in white boxes with no labels... except that nvidia has no monopoly. They made non-competitive product and now their partners have to pay price? no wonder big ones are trying to get ATi chips - they sell.

:roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
nvidia is playing intel game from yrs ago when they made mobo makers sell AMD mobos in white boxes with no labels... except that nvidia has no monopoly. They made non-competitive product and now their partners have to pay price? no wonder big ones are trying to get ATi chips - they sell.

1. This situation has nothing whatsoever to do with things Intel might have done.

2. I don't see how this affects any of us- there will still be 19 vendors apparently. Also, we don't know if this is true, or the real reasons it happened. I seem to recall reading that EVGA had dropped NVIDIA about 4 months ago, yet they still seem to be business partners.

3. NVIDIA products are competitve at every price point, and leading at several. (e.g. Try and find a better $199.99 card on newegg than the MSI GTX260, or a better $380 card the the MSI GTX280 OC- won't happen) To say NVIDIA or ATi don't have competing products these days is ridiculous, competition at all price points is as close as it's ever been. (with exception of $500+, where ATi is alone for the time being)

 

[Cookie Monster]

If the buyer is willing to get a CF solution, then a dual HD4850s would give that GTX280 a run for its money.

 

[Sable]

In before PR. Oh wait...

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Sable
In before PR. Oh wait...

:laugh: Its all pr

 

[Keysplayr]

According to ATI fans? Absolutely.

 

[ronnn]

I would be surprised if ati fans even care about who nvidia chooses as partners. Unless of course they choose intel. :beer:


Personally I think this is just a reflection of a much bigger story about how a socialist government is attempting to rescue bankers that made bad loans.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
According to ATI fans? Absolutely.

According to Nvidia fans? Absolutely Not.

what do Nvidiatics, fans of both companies say?


. . . the 5 partners are gone
bye-bye

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: nRollo
3. NVIDIA products are competitve at every price point, and leading at several. (e.g. Try and find a better $199.99 card on newegg than the MSI GTX260, or a better $380 card the the MSI GTX280 OC- won't happen) To say NVIDIA or ATi don't have competing products these days is ridiculous, competition at all price points is as close as it's ever been. (with exception of $500+, where ATi is alone for the time being)

2x4850 for around $300? (as Cookie pointed out)

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: nRollo
3. NVIDIA products are competitve at every price point, and leading at several. (e.g. Try and find a better $199.99 card on newegg than the MSI GTX260, or a better $380 card the the MSI GTX280 OC- won't happen) To say NVIDIA or ATi don't have competing products these days is ridiculous, competition at all price points is as close as it's ever been. (with exception of $500+, where ATi is alone for the time being)

2x4850 for around $300? (as Cookie pointed out)

2x4850 will do little compared to GTX280 when CF doesn't scale, or if you need more than 512MB VRAM for 19x12 or higher resolutions.
- i guess that is what the 4850x2/2GB is for, using cheaper DDR3, and it is expected to be ~$400.

to be fair, the gtx280 is an excellent value for a SINGLE gpu solution at $380 imo; some of us will never accept CF or SLi

.. GTX280 is for those of us who need faster than any [single core] 4870 or 260 but who do not want the issues you get stuck with with a faster performing X2. CF or SLi. The X2 is also a lot more expensive than the 280GTX which is also already severely discounted and not helping Nvidia's Partners' bottom lines very much.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: nRollo
3. NVIDIA products are competitve at every price point, and leading at several. (e.g. Try and find a better $199.99 card on newegg than the MSI GTX260, or a better $380 card the the MSI GTX280 OC- won't happen) To say NVIDIA or ATi don't have competing products these days is ridiculous, competition at all price points is as close as it's ever been. (with exception of $500+, where ATi is alone for the time being)

2x4850 for around $300? (as Cookie pointed out)

I was only talking about single cards, not the myriad of CF and SLi solutions available. "2 X4850" isn't a card, it's a multicard solution witha slew of other considerations.

In any case, the topic is 5 vendors cust, so we should start a "Does NVIDIA have competitive products?" thread if you want to debate that.

Those vendors may end up ATi partners now, so maybe we can debate 2X Foxconn 4850 vs GTX280.

 

[ronnn]

Yea who changed the topic anyways?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If the buyer is willing to get a CF solution, then a dual HD4850s would give that GTX280 a run for its money.

If they are willing to get an SLI solution, 2X 260 > 4870X2.

If they are willing to get a last gen sandwich card, 9800GX2 > 4870.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If the buyer is willing to get a CF solution, then a dual HD4850s would give that GTX280 a run for its money.

If they are willing to get an SLI solution, 2X 260 > 4870X2.

If they are willing to get a last gen sandwich card, 9800GX2 > 4870.

Take a look at the AT 4870 1GB review...you'll see the 4870x2 and 260 SLI are neck and neck...you can't flat out say one is better.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: nRollo

Originally posted by: thilan29
2x4850 for around $300? (as Cookie pointed out)

I was only talking about single cards, not the myriad of CF and SLi solutions available. "2 X4850" isn't a card, it's a multicard solution witha slew of other considerations.

One consideration: Scaling. Another consideration: The right platform.

For around $250 you can get a pair of Asus 9800 GT Ultimate (or whatever they call it) which is basically a 9800 GTX with a lower memory clock and higher core clock, plus a dual-slot cooler that exhausts out the rear. Or, $320 will get a pair of 9800 GTX that are higher clocked than stock 9800 GTX+, again with a dual-slot cooler that exhausts out the rear.

Anyways, until cards stop being available from partners or they issue press releases, this is all FUD. Even if right at this second NVIDIA cut off a few partners, they'd still have to fulfill existing orders and partners will usually have some amount of stock on-hand, so it may be months before parts stop being available.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Originally posted by: apoppin

2x4850 will do little compared to GTX280 when CF doesn't scale, or if you need more than 512MB VRAM for 19x12 or higher resolutions.
- i guess that is what the 4850x2/2GB is for, using cheaper DDR3, and it is expected to be ~$400.

4850 with 1gig ram aren't hard to find.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GaiaHunter

Originally posted by: apoppin

2x4850 will do little compared to GTX280 when CF doesn't scale, or if you need more than 512MB VRAM for 19x12 or higher resolutions.
- i guess that is what the 4850x2/2GB is for, using cheaper DDR3, and it is expected to be ~$400.

4850 with 1gig ram aren't hard to find.

. . . and when CF doesn't scale?

 

[Denithor]

Originally posted by: apoppin
. . . and when CF doesn't scale?

Therein lies the problem with all of the X2/GX2 cards and CF/SLI setups. Personally I'll stick to the best single-GPU card I can afford whether it's from ATi or nVidia.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: apoppin
. . . and when CF doesn't scale?

Therein lies the problem with all of the X2/GX2 cards and CF/SLI setups. Personally I'll stick to the best single-GPU card I can afford whether it's from ATi or nVidia.

But herein lies the real problem with the best single GPU cards ..
What happens when it isn't enough?
:Q