nvidia tegra K1

[dragantoe]

It seems the era of triple A ports to android is coming pretty soon, if the k1 can really keep up with intel's hd 4400.

 

[NTMBK]

It seems the era of triple A ports to android is coming pretty soon, if the k1 can really keep up with intel's hd 4400.

Yeah, because everyone wants to play console games with a touchscreen. :awe:

Android AAA gaming will only take off it one of the big players (i.e. Google or Amazon) will seriously throw their effort behind it. If the rumours are true and Amazon bring out an Android console, then things could get a lot more interesting.

 

[Headfoot]

I want to see a Xperia Play style gamepad phone from Google, Nexus version. Or a Shield-Phone that just has the slide out controls a la Xperia Play from nVidia et al. The android gaming sphere has picked up since the Xperia Play was released. That was before Google Play Games + Android Controller API was even a thing right?

 

[sontin]

Bump.. Do we have any new news on the Denver cores? I'm really interested in Nvidia's first real custom ARM CPU.

Someone from nVidia said they will talk about it on their GTC show next month.

 

[dragantoe]

Yeah, because everyone wants to play console games with a touchscreen. :awe:

ok, well what if you have a controller? I like the idea of an xperia play type thing, but wouldn't it be great to have your steam account linked to your phone in a way that you could download and play all your games on it?

 

[NTMBK]

ok, well what if you have a controller? I like the idea of an xperia play type thing, but wouldn't it be great to have your steam account linked to your phone in a way that you could download and play all your games on it?

Yeah, I was actually pretty excited for the Xperia Play when it was launched buy Sony totally dropped the ball on that. I was hoping for common games across Android, PSP/Vita and PS3/4 through the Playstation Mobile platform, but nope, just a pitiful selection of games that you can get through the Play Store anyway. I genuinely wanted to make the Xperia Play my next smartphone back in 2011, but it was just such a disappointment that I didn't bother.

If someone else like Google did make another big push for the Xperia Play format (slideout game controls), then I'd be quite interested; there's definitely the potential for that style of device to be awesome, so long as there's enough momentum behind it that the software library builds up. Xperia Play just seemed unloved, like Sony chucked it out the door with no support. (I strongly suspect that the console division didn't want it stealing the Vita's thunder- internal politics usually plays a big role in this sort of thing.)

EDIT: Sorry, I got a bit off topic there. My point was this, that silicon alone isn't going to turn Android into a games console. The software ecosystem needs to be there, or it will be about as successful as the Shield, the Ouya, or the Xperia Play. The hardware isn't really the tricky part at this stage.

 

[bullzz]

nvidia loves heatsinks!
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/03/05/nvidias-tegra-k1-draws-shocking-number-watts/

 

[Homeles]

Yikes.

 

[sontin]

Wow - using a power brick to calculate the power consumption - lol. D:

 

[NTMBK]

Eh, they probably just grabbed whatever power brick was most convenient, I wouldn't read too much into that. The huge actively cooled heatsink is another matter.

 

[Homeles]

Eh, they probably just grabbed whatever power brick was most convenient, I wouldn't read too much into that. The huge actively cooled heatsink is another matter.

Looks passive to me.

 

[monstercameron]

Looks passive to me.

fan = active.

 

[Homeles]

fan = active.

Exactly. Where's the fan?

Nevermind, I think I see it.

 

[monstercameron]

Exactly. Where's the fan?

Nevermind, I think I see it.

right side

 

[sontin]

On the other hand:
They can build a 7" tablet with a 30W SoC. D:

 

[monstercameron]

On the other hand:
They can build a 7" tablet with a 30W SoC. D:

frequency scaling, just means what you saw isnt what you'll get, the performance will be lowered from its initial unveiling inorder to keep power down...

 

[Abwx]

On the other hand:
They can build a 7" tablet with a 30W SoC. D:

Size of the heatspreader says that it cant be that high, they used a 60W PSU to remove any unknown about eventual current spikes since AC adaptators are sensitive to short current that exceed lightly the max
current ratings.

From its size we can assume that 5-8W is not exagerated
given that a small fan is used.

 

[sontin]

frequency scaling, just means what you saw isnt what you'll get, the performance will be lowered from its initial unveiling inorder to keep power down...

So, you're claiming Tegra K1 for tablets will be slower than Tegra 4?

 

[Enigmoid]

Looks like what I said was correct. K1 is going to be a power guzzler

 

[monstercameron]

So, you're claiming Tegra K1 for tablets will be slower than Tegra 4?

I made no such claims, just that even though the demos might be using more power than is recommended for a mobile device, freq scaling and other gating techniques can bring down the power draw.

 

[tempestglen]

 

[tempestglen]

DUAL core denver 3Ghz outperforms atom Z3770? LOL

http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=7794

 

[jdubs03]

interesting that it's lower than k1v1. i would've expected it to outperform, even slightly. still looks like i was right geekbench 3 st should be around 2000. but we'll see how that compares to ulx haswell/broadwell. i think broadwell will smack it around at 4.5w tdp. haswell it could be close, but alas time will tell.

i'm not surprised it beats z3770, it's next-gen compared to it. its the z4770? that it will be competing against. and i think airmont will be a solid leap cpu wise (and of course gpu wise).

 

[Exophase]

Meh, AnTuTu.

 

[Arachnotronic]

DUAL core denver 3Ghz outperforms atom Z3770? LOL

http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=7794

The comparison is meaningless without power consumption numbers.

My i7 4930K outperforms a Denver @ 3GHz...so what?

As much as I like NVIDIA, the lack of design win momentum for K1 at MWC was telling: nobody's buying it.