Well if you can't figure out what your issues are, I don't have the time. Anyway, nobody cares what you think unless it has to do with the topic.
Well if you can't figure out what your issues are, I don't have the time. Anyway, nobody cares what you think unless it has to do with the topic.
As I said above, the ATI solutions have their own problems, read the techreport article for some of them. If no SiS 939 solution comes out to suit my tastes I'll probably just end up holding on to my current rig as there will be no clockspeed increases besides FX-57 for the next year and check out the new Intel Desktop CPUs based on the Pentium M architechture with enhanced Floating Point, etc.
Either way, my point remains. I just can't understand why people continue to praise nvidia for SLI and nForce when they both have huge issues associated with them. It's ridiculous to see so many people not only pretend that the issues don't exist but resort to cheap personal attacks instead of taking nvidia to task for their subpar products.
Flamebait.
Gotta love that ATi quality, lets not get into the 8500 and 9700 problems, and that "flawless" ATi chipset
Few games support widescreen, and those on widescreen monitors can still use regular resolutions with small bars on either side.
On that note, end yourself, fanboi.
That article on techreport doesn't really give a good image about de xpress 200 potential in games, because they use a 6800gt card. Just take a look at his article and you'l now what i mean with potential: http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/RadeonXpress/ Don't get me wrong, iv'e heard about som of he problems with the chipset(usb?) but i don't now if those have been dealed with yet with a bios update. If not you could always wait for the new Ait chipset that's coming out very soon that supports AMR and probably won't have the problems that the xpress 200 has.
Keysplayr
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Yah, and it would seem the only people who care about this topic are the ones affected by it which are you and Ackmed. Why don't you just forget about SLI and nvidia altogether? Just stick with what works for you. Most people do. If you want to be different and try new things (widescreen or SLI) there are going to be inconveniences when things don't turn out like you planned. Do yourself, and us, a favor. Go over to the ATI camp and stay there. The way you talk about the company called nvidia makes me wonder why you ever purchased an nvidia product in the first place. Go ATI and be happy.
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Flamebait.
Gotta love that ATi quality, lets not get into the 8500 and 9700 problems, and that "flawless" ATi chipset
Few games support widescreen, and those on widescreen monitors can still use regular resolutions with small bars on either side.
On that note, end yourself, fanboi.
Thanks for that. You really added to this thread. WTF is wrong with you people, this is not a defend ATI thread, it's a call out the nvidia crap thread ATI has it's own share of iissues. You guys really need an education particularly in logic.
I'd say you are the one defending "crap" products- a rehash of a two year old gpu that hasn't met MSs/programmers standards for over a year and is far slower than their competitors best? Yeah, let me ditch my 16X12 4X8X minimum performance, soft shadows, SM3, HDR and jump all over that- WTF was I thinking?!?!?
:roll:
BTW- you can run any game you like on your WS LCD- you just can't run it in WS. Again, if I had a WS LCD, which many don't think to be the optimal gaming solution anyway (ghosts, contrast, washed out color) I'd gladly trade the speed/AA/AF for that inch of screen real estate running at a standard aspect ratio.
That's just me though- some think looking at a faded display with lower settings is worth it for the desktop real estate. My own desk is as big as most cubicles, so I have plenty of room for my 22".
BTW- I think most object to your not being a SLI user and posting flamebait, as it means nothing to you either way?
The one guy here with SLI and a WS says he has no problems and that only people who can't figure tech do- can you feel his love?
One has to wonder why you are so adamant about everyone forgetting about nvidia. Is it because you're an nvidia apologist or do you just like subpar products at high prices? Widescreen IS NOT new, it's been around for a LONG time.
That's the difference between you and me, I'm not an apologist, I call it like I see it. I can buy nvidia and still call them out for crappy product/driver implementation. It's called being objective. Just to make you happy, the ATI chipset is also subpar and if you go into the anandtech forums way back machine you can see a huge thread where I repeatedly called out ATI for their crap filtering on the X800.
Again, WTF is wrong with you? The issues are there and they are simply unacceptable While we're on the subject, where's the purevideo support nvidia promised. And I wouldn't consider SATA hard drive corruption nor IDE issues to be "minor" problems. One has to really wonder if you and Rollo (well, we know he is) are on the payroll.
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Ok bonehead
I am not apologizing for anything. No need for you to wonder about me wanting "not everyone" but just you to forget about nvidia. It's because I, as well as others are tired of hearing your whining. That's why I would like you to go ATI and stay there and never come back. Just you, not anyone else. Hell, I'd even take Ackmed over you and that's saying something.
Bonehead statement #2:
I know Widescreen's are NOT NEW. But using them with SLI is. Does this explain my actual thought synapsis to you?
First, you bitched about your single BFG 6800GT not supporting a certain resolution you needed for widescreen. Remember that fiasco? You went on a 1000 word rant before someone told you that your bios needed a flash. YOU JUMP THE GUN ALWAYS. You have Zero patience for technology and we all know that perfecting technology TAKES TIME.
I actually can't believe I wasted these keystrokes on you.
Later.
Guy's come on just let it rest..... everyone has his own opinion on things and for the better. IT would just be boring if everyone had the same opinion. But to get back on the topic. I am not going to purchase a SLI system, probably never. Why? There is no reason to. The current high-end cards can take any game on highest settings, and before there's a game that your high-end card can't handle the next generation of cards is already on the shelff. And please dont' give me the crap about the upgrade possibility's of a SLI board. I don't now who ever came up with it but it's complete bull. If you would get a 6800 gt card at the moment you would be spending around $300. Then if you want to make your system a bit faster then you buy another for around $200. That's $500 in total. Now what i would do: Get a 6800gt for $300 now and then sel it for about $125 if you want something faster. Then get a card for the new generation for $300-$350. With the sli upgrade you would gain perhaps 60% performance max? With the new card this will be about 100% or perhaps even more and that card will probably boost new features and technologies. And you don't have to wait for drivers to come out that will enable sli for the game you wan't to play. And than i haven't even mentioned the money you save because of the lower power usage.
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Ok Bar81, if you are SOOOOO interested and mad about this why are you posting and whining to us. Do we look like Nvidia employee's? Do we have any power that you dont have? Last i checked this problem was already known to happen, so why do you need to "call nvidia out"?
Stop whining to us, we cant do anything!
If you have such a problem with every chipset that we suggest as an alternative maybe you should consider simply not building a PC anymore.
-Kevin
Stop whining to us, we cant do anything!
If you have such a problem with every chipset that we suggest as an alternative maybe you should consider simply not building a PC anymore.
-Kevin
I like the fact that we're hearing about the entire crappy nVidia line.
You need to take a ride in the waybackmachine to about 5 years ago Bar. Go buy a ATi Rage Fury MAXX.
ATi has since fixed some of their problems just like nVidia is fixing theirs. It takes time, its not instant, so get over it.
One would have to wonder if you're on ATis payroll with all the trolling you do for them. Keep up the good work.
You need to take a ride in the waybackmachine to about 5 years ago Bar. Go buy a ATi Rage Fury MAXX.
ATi has since fixed some of their problems just like nVidia is fixing theirs. It takes time, its not instant, so get over it.
One would have to wonder if you're on ATis payroll with all the trolling you do for them. Keep up the good work.
So apparently calling a company out for subpar products is now trolling??? okaaaaaaaaaaaay
And retards, once again this isn't ATI versus nvidia which apparently none of you intellectual geniuses is able to understand. ATI has nothing to do with the issues at hand here and I never brought them up so I have no idea why YOU are all trolling the whole ATI v nvidia thing.
And retards, once again this isn't ATI versus nvidia which apparently none of you intellectual geniuses is able to understand. ATI has nothing to do with the issues at hand here and I never brought them up so I have no idea why YOU are all trolling the whole ATI v nvidia thing.
I think your XTPE is subpar. Please flame my post because I'm retarded.
:laugh:
You just don't get it.
Okay, it's readily apparent that I'm going to have to hold everyone's hand:
The points in the thread:
(1) nvidia's SLI WS and nForce chipsets do not work as they should
(2) These problems have previously been noted
(3) The problems with the items in question STILL exist MONTHS after they should have been resolved (and in the case of the nForce IDE drivers it's been YEARS)
(4) The earliest "possible" solution for the SLI WS problem is ONE MONTH from now, STILL no Purevideo, and no eta on any fixes for nForce chipsets whether it be IDE drivers, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ issue, or the ridiculous high usage of the Ge.
Why post?
(1) It's been MONTHS and YEARS in some cases and STILL no fixes for well known issues
(2) Highlight for everyone that issues STILL REMAIN
(3) REFUSE to accept subpar products
(4) Emailing does nothing. As we have all seen, public pressure via boards is the only way to get these big companies to act
(5) To get people to understand that it is the blind acceptance and illogical brand loyalty that is perpetuating this scenario
This is as simple as it gets folks.
If the market refused subpar products ATI would not be here today.
You get an A for effort though.
You get an A for effort though.
You get an A in stupidity. Your attempts at logic make a drunk moose look intelligent. Actually, ATI is what it is today because of others doing what I'm doing here which is calling a company out for subpar products, not to simply criticize them, but, rather, to make them change the way they do business and deliver products that work as advertised. You really need a logic class as well as several years in reading comprehension.
And just out of curiousity, is there a particular reason all of you nvidia apologists don't want nvidia to deliver products that work as advertised? If anything, it should be the nvidia faithful who should be in tow in this thread.
And just out of curiousity, is there a particular reason all of you nvidia apologists don't want nvidia to deliver products that work as advertised? If anything, it should be the nvidia faithful who should be in tow in this thread.
ATI is what it is today because of ANOTHER COMPANYS product. They had NOTHING and were very close to shutting down before the release of the R300.
Where the hell are you getting your insults? You know MadLibs is for kids right? You think that you're fighting the good fight and taking it to the man, but you're just making a jackass of yourself on a internet message board infront of a bunch of people that could care less.
Companys fix problems, one way or another. ATI is proof of that. It takes time.
Now take a deep breath, count to 10, or you'll have to go sit in the corner.
First off, it's couldn't care less, my grammatical and logical genius. Second, that's EXACTLY the problem. Everyone, and not just me, should be *demanding* better. You want to wait for solutions like a good little puppy dog, that's great and all except errrr, companies don't always fix problems "one way or another" It's your ilk that allows nvidia to have crap IDE drivers for nForce since the beginning and get away with it. IF everyone is like you then you're pretty much asking the companies to bend you over and sadly, you're too ignorant to see it.
Oh noes, its the grammar police! :shocked:
You're so ignorant you're blind. But whatever floats your boat. :thumbsup:
You're so ignorant you're blind. But whatever floats your boat. :thumbsup:
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