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nvidia SLI still doesn't work properly...

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Bar81

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Apparently, nvidia's crack driver team is at again. 3 months and STILL no fix for the widescreen SLI problem. Don't take my word for it, listen to the people who got conned:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3211

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3035

Gotta love that nvidia quality. Thank goodness their chipsets work as advertised...ERRR, no they don't (IDE driver problems that have been going on since nForce2, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ causes corruption, "hardware" firewall that's anything but.) Can these clowns design and implement *anything* that works properly? If Asus ever releases the A8S I can finally be rid of this trainwreck of a company, not to mention pay a reasonable amount for mobos as opposed to the ridiculous prices nvidia's solutions seem to cost.
 
Originally posted by: McArra
LOL!
Nforce is the best for OC, if you are not and OCer there's no need to go for it.
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Yeah, I was gonna say...

I :heart: my nForce2 board, and I fully intend to upgrade to an nForce4 A64 platform relatively soon. Every company makes mistakes, but I'm not going to pass up a good product just to hold a grudge, so to speak.
 
Bar, the nurse just called, she said that it's time for your enema. She said you missed the last two appointments and you get all bunged up when you do that. 😀
Anyway, your posts are always good for entertainment value. Keep em comin brudda. Gives me a chuckle to start my day. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Bar81
Apparently, nvidia's crack driver team is at again. 3 months and STILL no fix for the widescreen SLI problem. Don't take my word for it, listen to the people who got conned:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3211

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3035

Gotta love that nvidia quality. Thank goodness their chipsets work as advertised...ERRR, no they don't (IDE driver problems that have been going on since nForce2, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ causes corruption, "hardware" firewall that's anything but.) Can these clowns design and implement *anything* that works properly? If Asus ever releases the A8S I can finally be rid of this trainwreck of a company, not to mention pay a reasonable amount for mobos as opposed to the ridiculous prices nvidia's solutions seem to cost.
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Hmmm. "nVidias crack driver team"?

You mean they're not as good as the ATI driver team who have never been able to provide anything near acceptable performance in Linux, ever?

I'm sure all the 100,000s of people gaming at a level you can't imagine are just crushed they can't run a couple games widescreen, if they have a widescreen monitor anyway? :roll:

I used to have a primitive X800XT PE like you Bar81. If I had a widescreen monitor, I'd give it to charity and buy a CRT to play on SLI vs a comparatively slow X800XT PE. Yes, it's that much better. 😉
 
I'd like to mention that I've got a 2005FPW (I've tried both DVI and Analog), and have no jitter, no problem, no nothing.

There are people out there that don't have problems with ANY of the things you mentioned above. Oddly enough, those that don't, seem to actually know what they're doing.
 
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Bar81
Apparently, nvidia's crack driver team is at again. 3 months and STILL no fix for the widescreen SLI problem. Don't take my word for it, listen to the people who got conned:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3211

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3035

Gotta love that nvidia quality. Thank goodness their chipsets work as advertised...ERRR, no they don't (IDE driver problems that have been going on since nForce2, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ causes corruption, "hardware" firewall that's anything but.) Can these clowns design and implement *anything* that works properly? If Asus ever releases the A8S I can finally be rid of this trainwreck of a company, not to mention pay a reasonable amount for mobos as opposed to the ridiculous prices nvidia's solutions seem to cost.
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Hmmm. "nVidias crack driver team"?

You mean they're not as good as the ATI driver team who have never been able to provide anything near acceptable performance in Linux, ever?

I'm sure all the 100,000s of people gaming at a level you can't imagine are just crushed they can't run a couple games widescreen, if they have a widescreen monitor anyway? :roll:

I used to have a primitive X800XT PE like you Bar81. If I had a widescreen monitor, I'd give it to charity and buy a CRT to play on SLI vs a comparatively slow X800XT PE. Yes, it's that much better. 😉
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Sigh........

People with the Dell 2001, 2005, and 2405 buy sli so they can run at the resoloutions those monitors use with aa and af.

If I had no widescreen support i'd be pissed to.


If widescreen support doesnt mean much to you, why do ATI's linux drivers matter?
 
Originally posted by: Bar81
Apparently, nvidia's crack driver team is at again. 3 months and STILL no fix for the widescreen SLI problem. Don't take my word for it, listen to the people who got conned:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3211

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3035

Gotta love that nvidia quality. Thank goodness their chipsets work as advertised...ERRR, no they don't (IDE driver problems that have been going on since nForce2, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ causes corruption, "hardware" firewall that's anything but.) Can these clowns design and implement *anything* that works properly? If Asus ever releases the A8S I can finally be rid of this trainwreck of a company, not to mention pay a reasonable amount for mobos as opposed to the ridiculous prices nvidia's solutions seem to cost.
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Can you post anything unbiased?

Stop whining about how bad the company is. If you hate Nvidia so much then use Sis or Via based chipsets and use ATI, Matrox, or XGI video cards. Stop whining to us about it.

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: BouZouki
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: Bar81
Apparently, nvidia's crack driver team is at again. 3 months and STILL no fix for the widescreen SLI problem. Don't take my word for it, listen to the people who got conned:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3211

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3035

Gotta love that nvidia quality. Thank goodness their chipsets work as advertised...ERRR, no they don't (IDE driver problems that have been going on since nForce2, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ causes corruption, "hardware" firewall that's anything but.) Can these clowns design and implement *anything* that works properly? If Asus ever releases the A8S I can finally be rid of this trainwreck of a company, not to mention pay a reasonable amount for mobos as opposed to the ridiculous prices nvidia's solutions seem to cost.
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Hmmm. "nVidias crack driver team"?

You mean they're not as good as the ATI driver team who have never been able to provide anything near acceptable performance in Linux, ever?

I'm sure all the 100,000s of people gaming at a level you can't imagine are just crushed they can't run a couple games widescreen, if they have a widescreen monitor anyway? :roll:

I used to have a primitive X800XT PE like you Bar81. If I had a widescreen monitor, I'd give it to charity and buy a CRT to play on SLI vs a comparatively slow X800XT PE. Yes, it's that much better. 😉
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Sigh........

People with the Dell 2001, 2005, and 2405 buy sli so they can run at the resoloutions those monitors use with aa and af.

If I had no widescreen support i'd be pissed to.


If widescreen support doesnt mean much to you, why do ATI's linux drivers matter?
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I would think that many many more people run Linux than people who have enormous widescreen monitors 😉

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


I would think that many many more people run Linux than people who have enormous widescreen monitors 😉

-Kevin
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How many serious gamers do you know, who only use linux? I dont know one. The key isnt "run" linux, the key is how many actually use it to play games.

A recent poll I started, shows about twice as many LCD users are using WS, than not. I didnt think it would be that way, but thats what the results are.

Most people who have SLI, are "highend" gamers. Same goes for people who have nice WS LCD's. It is a shame you cant use the same two together. Its also a shame you cant use a 3rd video card for 3 monitors. That disables SLI, sadly.
 
I would definitely think that more people use linux than have a widescreen monitor.

It is sad to say that you can only point out the flaws of a technology/technologies, even though the benefits far outweigh the flaws (same goes with ATI and linux, drivers are much much better these days).

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I would definitely think that more people use linux than have a widescreen monitor.

It is sad to say that you can only point out the flaws of a technology/technologies, even though the benefits far outweigh the flaws (same goes with ATI and linux, drivers are much much better these days).

-Kevin
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Why dont you grasp, its now about "using the OS", its about "gaming with the OS"?

Do you really think there are a lot of people who use linux as their only OS, and are big gamers? I really doubt this.
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


I would think that many many more people run Linux than people who have enormous widescreen monitors 😉

-Kevin
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How many serious gamers do you know, who only use linux? I dont know one. The key isnt "run" linux, the key is how many actually use it to play games.

A recent poll I started, shows about twice as many LCD users are using WS, than not. I didnt think it would be that way, but thats what the results are.

Most people who have SLI, are "highend" gamers. Same goes for people who have nice WS LCD's. It is a shame you cant use the same two together. Its also a shame you cant use a 3rd video card for 3 monitors. That disables SLI, sadly.
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There are tradeoffs with everything in life Ackmed. The tradeoff you've made is having a slow gaming computer.
The tradeoff I've made is that should I decide to sell my 22" CRT, I'll have to play my games at a normal aspect ratio should I replace it with a WS LCD.

Who's to say who's better off?

You running games slowly at lower detail settings, or me having to use a standard aspect ratio?

Comes down to personal preference IMO.

 
And what brings you to that decision? Because he closed the thread after several people didn't follow the rules after being told repeatedly? Because he actually got involved in the thread? Or because he has a working, non problematic system? Or is it because it's not an all encompassing hardware forum, but rather nVidia specific products, and specific guidelines to fulfill (and agree to), when posting?

If I were him, with an attitude like that, I'd be happy you didn't post on those forums.
 
I think Ronin (hmmm Coincidence maybe) did a very nice job in that thread. He didn't get angry and didn't tolerate a bunch of crap getting thrown at him. Yes mods are no different than we are but they also deserve a little bit of respect for the title. Additionally he brought up very good points, and did everything in a very measured fashion. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Rollo


There are tradeoffs with everything in life Ackmed. The tradeoff you've made is having a slow gaming computer.
The tradeoff I've made is that should I decide to sell my 22" CRT, I'll have to play my games at a normal aspect ratio should I replace it with a WS LCD.

Who's to say who's better off?

You running games slowly at lower detail settings, or me having to use a standard aspect ratio?

Comes down to personal preference IMO.
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There should not be a trade off. I would have gotten SLI instead of this X850XT/PE, if i worked right in WS, and if the prices were not far above MSRP at the time. It should just work. I will never again have a huge CRT, its not worth it to me.

Widescreen offers me a huge overall benefit than any normal res could offer. I get more of the game.

How is having WS support in SLI a bad thing? Its not. Which is all I am saying. I have said in the past, that widescreen and SLI are the two best things that have happened to PC gaming in the last few years. Which is my opinion of course. And I just want the two of them to work together.

 
This shouldn't be a debate about ATi and nVidia. It should be a debate as to whether widescreen monitors/LCDs work properly when SLi is enabled. It does, but for some reason, not for many. I'm happy with my 2005FPW, and soon with my 2405FPW.

Want an alternate suggestion? Another thread on the nVidia forums suggested that installing x64 and using the 64bit drivers resolved the issue for them. For my own purposes, I did exactly that, and I am still not having issues (was curious to see if the problem would manifest itself).

This could be an omen for those having issues that the code base for the 64bit drivers might trickle into the 32bit sector.

Folks should also note that nVidia does in fact mention the widescreen issue in their driver release notes, and that it is a known issue.
 
Don't worry Bar it'll all be over soon. When Dothan somes to desktop you wont have to worry about nvidia/SiS/Via/Ati anymore just buy the best chipsets from intel.

As far as SLi? Wait for AMR I guess. But Somethings better than nothing.
 
Forgot about that. I'm ready to go back to Intel after putting up with all this AMD chipset crap, Dothan sounds like it will justify such a move. And I do have a WS LCD so if I want SLI (which I don't due to heat issues - I'm running a near silent rig - and the fact that my X800 XT PE runs everything at 1280x768 with AA/AF) it looks like I'd have to wait for ATI's solution, but can't really complain as ATI has been good to me on the graphics front, first with my 9700Pro and now with my X800XT PE.

btw, for the peanut gallery that needs to deride me rather than actually address the topic at hand, notice how ATI is NOT mentined in this thread, that's because I'm addressing only nvidia and it's crapfilled record which anyone with half an ounce of logical thought cannot deny. The bottom line is that for WS LCD users SLI DOESN'T WORK and sadly, that's *exactly* the market who wants SLI. And it's a further joke that nvidia is "aware of the issue" and yet needs at least one more month, on top of the three months that have already passed, to fix the issue, *if they ever* fix the issue (I wouldn't assume they will as they *still* haven't fixed their IDE or nForce4 SATA drivers.) Frankly, It's YOUR fault nvidia is such crap as you continue to accept such behavior from the company and actually go even further by defending the crap they put on the market. Did anyone also happen to notice the Ge CPU usage numbers on the tech-report article for nvidia, unacceptable and yet you guys act like it's just fantastic (AGAIN, nvidia is "aware of the issue" - notice a pattern here - and yet AGAIN hasn't fixed squat.) WTF is wrong with you people???
 
Originally posted by: Bar81
Apparently, nvidia's crack driver team is at again. 3 months and STILL no fix for the widescreen SLI problem. Don't take my word for it, listen to the people who got conned:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3211

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=3035

Gotta love that nvidia quality. Thank goodness their chipsets work as advertised...ERRR, no they don't (IDE driver problems that have been going on since nForce2, nForce4 SATA w/NCQ causes corruption, "hardware" firewall that's anything but.) Can these clowns design and implement *anything* that works properly? If Asus ever releases the A8S I can finally be rid of this trainwreck of a company, not to mention pay a reasonable amount for mobos as opposed to the ridiculous prices nvidia's solutions seem to cost.
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hmm works fine for me, and havent had any suspicious packages since. does a good job of keeping people using MyTunes Redux from stealing my music when i use itunes
 
Originally posted by: Bar81
Forgot about that. I'm ready to go back to Intel after putting up with all this AMD chipset crap, Dothan sounds like it will justify such a move. And I do have a WS LCD so if I want SLI (which I don't due to heat issues - I'm running a near silent rig - and the fact that my X800 XT PE runs everything at 1280x768 with AA/AF) it looks like I'd have to wait for ATI's solution, but can't really complain as ATI has been good to me on the graphics front, first with my 9700Pro and now with my X800XT PE.

btw, for the peanut gallery that needs to deride me rather than actually address the topic at hand, notice how ATI is NOT mentined in this thread, that's because I'm addressing only nvidia and it's crapfilled record which anyone with half an ounce of logical thought cannot deny. The bottom line is that for WS LCD users SLI DOESN'T WORK and sadly, that's *exactly* the market who wants SLI. And it's a further joke that nvidia is "aware of the issue" and yet needs at least one more month, on top of the three months that have already passed, to fix the issue, *if they ever* fix the issue (I wouldn't assume they will as they *still* haven't fixed their IDE or nForce4 SATA drivers.) Frankly, It's YOUR fault nvidia is such crap as you continue to accept such behavior from the company and actually go even further by defending the crap they put on the market. Did anyone also happen to notice the Ge CPU usage numbers on the tech-report article for nvidia, unacceptable and yet you guys act like it's just fantastic (AGAIN, nvidia is "aware of the issue" - notice a pattern here - and yet AGAIN hasn't fixed squat.) WTF is wrong with you people???
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There is nothing wrong with me. I just don't like you.

 
Originally posted by: Bar81
Forgot about that. I'm ready to go back to Intel after putting up with all this AMD chipset crap, Dothan sounds like it will justify such a move. And I do have a WS LCD so if I want SLI (which I don't due to heat issues - I'm running a near silent rig - and the fact that my X800 XT PE runs everything at 1280x768 with AA/AF) it looks like I'd have to wait for ATI's solution, but can't really complain as ATI has been good to me on the graphics front, first with my 9700Pro and now with my X800XT PE.

btw, for the peanut gallery that needs to deride me rather than actually address the topic at hand, notice how ATI is NOT mentined in this thread, that's because I'm addressing only nvidia and it's crapfilled record which anyone with half an ounce of logical thought cannot deny. The bottom line is that for WS LCD users SLI DOESN'T WORK and sadly, that's *exactly* the market who wants SLI. And it's a further joke that nvidia is "aware of the issue" and yet needs at least one more month, on top of the three months that have already passed, to fix the issue, *if they ever* fix the issue (I wouldn't assume they will as they *still* haven't fixed their IDE or nForce4 SATA drivers.) Frankly, It's YOUR fault nvidia is such crap as you continue to accept such behavior from the company and actually go even further by defending the crap they put on the market. Did anyone also happen to notice the Ge CPU usage numbers on the tech-report article for nvidia, unacceptable and yet you guys act like it's just fantastic (AGAIN, nvidia is "aware of the issue" - notice a pattern here - and yet AGAIN hasn't fixed squat.) WTF is wrong with you people???
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If you don't like motherboards with Nforce chipset, why don't you buy one with the Ati Xpress 200 chipset? They perform great and on par with Nforce solutions in most cases, and combined with a Ati videocard they outperform any Nforce solution in games.
 
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