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NVIDIA Shield Releases July(ish?)... For $299

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ams23 said:
is also a nice device for music and video playback.
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So is
  • iPod
  • Smartphone
  • Tablet
  • PS Vita
  • DS
  • Laptop
  • Any MP3 Player
  • Consoles
  • HTPC
  • NUC
  • Apple TV
  • Raspberry Pi

And that's just off the top of my head. Can you explain why a giant, clunky, loud and awkward game controller/screen hybrid is any better than any of those?
 
sushiwarrior said:
So is
  • iPod
  • Smartphone
  • Tablet
  • PS Vita
  • DS
  • Laptop
  • Any MP3 Player
  • Consoles
  • HTPC
  • NUC
  • Apple TV
  • Raspberry Pi

And that's just off the top of my head. Can you explain why a giant, clunky, loud and awkward game controller/screen hybrid is any better than any of those?
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It has much better built in speakers.
 
I'd buy a Shield if the streaming game functionality worked with any graphics cards, and not just select nvidia cards. No thanks for vendor lock in.
 
I won't be buying one because I don't think it's worth $300, but the streaming games feature would be the number one use for me.
 
ViRGE said:
For the record, it looks bad if you say that Shield is not a handheld console and then immediately compare it to a PS Vita, which is a handheld console.😛

Shield is very much a handheld gaming console, in the same grand tradition as Vita, PSP, (3)DS, and Gameboy. Its primary (and damn near only) function is to play video games, and it is a handheld device. Not to be pedantic here, but I don't know what else you'd classify Shield as. It has buttons and joysticks for the love of mike.😱
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This is largely an argument over semantics I suppose. A small tablet (or phablet) running Android with a game controller attached to it is not a game console, and neither is Shield in my book. To me, a game console is a device that is geared towards games that are designed specifically for the platform. Ouya fits this description, but Shield does not.
 
sushiwarrior said:
And that's just off the top of my head. Can you explain why a giant, clunky, loud and awkward game controller/screen hybrid is any better than any of those?
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That is pretty silly. Internal volume matters when it comes to moving air cleanly. The speaker system in Shield is certainly not meant for 2-channel audiophile purists, but the speakers should have much wider dynamic range and lower distortion compared to most other smartphones and tablets out there. I believe it was Anandtech (or one of the other review sites) who said that the sound quality of Shield is much better than even the new HTC One (which happens to be one of the best smartphones in terms of speaker sound quality). As for video/movie playback, due to the relatively high battery capacity in Shield relative to a smartphone, the video/movie playback time should be much longer than any smartphone or small handheld device. And some small handheld devices (such as DS, PSVita, Ipod, etc.) have a screen resolution that is even lower than Shield's HD display.
 
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ams23 said:
That is pretty silly. Internal volume matters when it comes to moving air cleanly. The speaker system in Shield is certainly not meant for 2-channel audiophile purists, but the speakers should have much wider dynamic range and lower distortion compared to most other smartphones and tablets out there. I believe it was Anandtech (or one of the other review sites) who said that the sound quality of Shield is much better than even the new HTC One (which happens to be one of the best smartphones in terms of speaker sound quality).
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You would never catch me or anyone who cares about audio quality listening to any kind of portable device speakers anyways. Is it better than the One? Sure, but that still ranks as terrible in any case.

ams23 said:
As for video/movie playback, due to the relatively high battery capacity in Shield relative to a smartphone, the video/movie playback time should be much longer than any smartphone or small handheld device. And some small handheld devices (such as DS, PSVita, Ipod, etc.) have a screen resolution that is even lower than Shield's HD display.
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Video battery life on recent devices has been upwards of 12 hours. If that's not already enough, then I don't know what is.
 
The video playback battery life is rated at 3.5 hours for ipod nano, 5 hours for PSVita, and 8 hours for ipod touch. Shield should at least double the video playback battery life even compared to the best of these. Anyway, the most attractive thing about Shield is that it uses a very powerful ultra mobile SoC at a price point of only $299 USD. Even T4 tablets will start significantly higher at $399 USD as far as I can tell.
 
ams23 said:
This is largely an argument over semantics I suppose. A small tablet (or phablet) running Android with a game controller attached to it is not a game console, and neither is Shield in my book. To me, a game console is a device that is geared towards games that are designed specifically for the platform. Ouya fits this description, but Shield does not.
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That's a good point. Shield won't have games developed for it (at least not right away). So it's not an exclusive platform like the others.

Still, I struggle to find anything to call it other than a new twist on a handheld console, given the fact that the only thing it does well is play games. Not that this is a bad thing at all; it's monumentally better at that task than traditional touchscreen devices.
 
All I can say is, they better market the hell out of this thing. Paste billboards and adverts all over the place.

Also, Tegra 4 for $299 looks pretty good to me.
 
Wow, really hope what I'm reading on the Nvidia forums is not real. But there seems to be some intriguing signs that the Nvidia Shield may be delayed until August 15th.

Some Gamestop employees are claiming they haven't gotten stock and were told of a delay. Apparently NewEgg is saying the same thing now and has August 15th as their availability date on their site.

Another odd thing is two unboxing videos posted yesterday were pulled from YouTube.

And Evleaks tweeted a claim that Nvidia will make an announcement later today.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/548429/project-shield/release-date-change/

Really disappointing if this is real. I watched one of those unboxing reviews. Everything looked good. Nvidia had better have a really good reason for the delay if there is indeed one. Or I'll definitely cancel my pre-order.
 
I was hoping to check it out at GameStop tomorrow, so that's a bit of a bummer.

Oh, and... hey ViRGE, do you think you can use some of the mod magic again? 😉

Done
-ViRGE

Me: Thanks!
 
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I was excited back in May, even June. But after the delay announcement, I realized I was no longer excited about it, so canceled my pre-order.

I'll wait until it releases and people review it and decide again if I want to spend $300 on this.

Problem is, and the reason I canceled, so many other cool things are coming out soon. Tegra 4 Android tablets will be shipping, the HP Slatebook X2 looks awesome. There may be some 8 inch Windows 8 tablet shipping (better quality ones than the Acer). And the Retina iPad mini may arrive in August.
 
Since the shield is basically just an android tablet with a controller built in - will it be possible to port the apk of the actual shield program to other android devices?

I have used my nexus with both a ps3 controller, and a corded 360 controller - so the input would not be a problem at all - but i personally would much rather use either my phone or something like a nexus 7 or 10 to do the same thing (play my PC games over my network on another android device).

Anyone know if this will be possible? Or if there is any other way to do this?
 
nVidia said they will not block rooting... So it should be possible. I thought about it, too. Get the App and give everybody with (Tegra)Android the fun to stream their games.
 
Speaking of Root:

With an active heatsink+small fan on the Shield, We should be able to see the real performance we can get out of Tegra4.

Rumors of it overheating in tablets and whatever else we've heard will be true or we'll soon see as false.

Would be nice if those 4 Cores could clock to 2.6-3.0ghz


What Mobile devices severely need is a FAST storage transfer speed. None of the 10-20MB/s crap. If they're using stacked NAND, integrate a 4-8 channel SSD like controller and give us 100+ MB/s, USb3.0 jumpdrives already can.
 
What I'd really like is a way to Stream to a TV. I'm not sure if it's a feature they have in the works, or if we'll need to use a Chromecast type device.

Also it'd be pretty cool if you could sync a second controller (xb360 for ex) and have 2player gaming if the app supports it.

Emulator for Mortal Kombat 3 and play with a friend would rock.
 
Tegra 4 supports Miracast. But it comes with 80ms lag. So we first need a better solution for wireless streaming.
 
sontin said:
Tegra 4 supports Miracast. But it comes with 80ms lag. So we first need a better solution for wireless streaming.
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Sontin, you posted on the nvidia forums: "Shield supports Miracast only for video, music and not for playing at this time."

Do we still not know how extensive Shield will support Miracast?

For example, it should be a widget or checkbox you click and it mirrors on to the TV, and stop when you untoggle Miracast. At least in my world it should. That way it'll stream everything the Shield displays.
 
I don't want an ouya AND a shield. I want the shield first and foremost.
There no reason a Shield can't host as a console.
 
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