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Nvidia Quadro prices cut in half. Why? Lets find out

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Why is the price on Quadro cards being cut in half?

  • Price is/was too high

  • Demand is/was not high

  • Nvidia lowered prices in anticipation of AMD releasing a new product

  • Customers found out the normal Fermis do a good enough job at much lower cost

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Last month AMD released this:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firepro-3d/v9800/Pages/v9800.aspx

Full OpenCL support in Windows and Linux. A very compelling GPGPU part. I know several organisations who have already acquired some for scientific computing purposes. nVidia is being challenged in GPGPU space.

I agree they could be clearing inventory for an updated part or to stimulate sales to maintain any advantage the may or may not currently have.
 
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Genx87 said:
These markets arent as price sensitive as people think. We just wpent 21K on 4 developers who had to have Apple products to do their graphics workload. It could had been 42K and it wouldnt matter. Companies spend more on human capital and software licenses than they do the actual hardware. A graphics designer might run 70-100K\year + software licenses + training + the hardware. In that mix do you think 2500 is going to even going to register?
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Price must have some effect on the market or NV wouldn't have lowered their prices.
 
Idontcare said:
When you have a query sometimes it is easiest to just look to a market for analogues which already have a known market model rationale.

For example, why did Intel reduce the price on their already flagship-leading 965X just to release yet another flagship-leading 980X for $1k in its place?

Did they reimburse the 965X owners the price-difference after they reduced prices on the 965X?

Did the 980X release and price-cut on the 965X have anything to do with the products of their competitor?

If you told me that Nvidia cut the price on their flagship product without releasing replacement SKU I would assume they are clearing inventory to make room for an even higher performing SKU that will be forthcoming from them.
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(They didn't. It was the 975, and it still sells, and for more than the 980X)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-223-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-212-_-Product
 
NumericalMethods said:
Last month AMD released this:

http://www.amd.com/us/products/workstation/graphics/ati-firepro-3d/v9800/Pages/v9800.aspx

Full OpenCL support in Windows and Linux. A very compelling GPGPU part. I know several organisations who have already acquired some for scientific computing purposes. nVidia is being challenged in GPGPU space.
I agree they could be clearing inventory for an updated part or to stimulate sales to maintain any advantage the may or may not currently have.
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haha that is a good one. have you actually seen any benchmarks? The few I read don't even compare the Quadro 6000 vs this card because the quardro 5000 obliterates it. AMD is ahead in consumer graphics, but they are not even close in PRO/GPGPU. The hardware may very well be good enough, but their drivers are years behind in this market.

I found one that has the 6000

9800_catia1.png

9800_ensight.png
 
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Arkadrel said:
Maybe the 69xx will have some GPGPU power? Enough for nvidia not to be able to justify their prices?
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If AMD stopped cutting out features of the core...perhaps.
But untill then their architecture suffers from a focus on diesize and not performance/features which is what hurts them in GPGPU.
 
Quadro FX4800 (MSRP $1549) was replaced by Quadro 5000 (MSRP $2249). That's a $700 increase from the card it replaces.

Quadro FX5800 (MSRP $2,999) was replaced by Quadro 6000 (MSRP $4,999). That's a $2000 increase from the card it replaces.

imo, the most reasonable explanations are any of the ones below:

1) It's a temporary promotion to get customers to buy the new Quadro cards.

2) The price cuts are only on PNY cards. How can one conclude that it's a 50% price cut for EVERY Quadro AIB?

3) The market is simply not able to bare the significant increase of prices from previous generation of Quadro cards.

4) It looks like Quadro 5000/6000 are BOTH GF100 chips. We know that GF100 is soon going to be replaced by GT110 and other derivatives. It makes sense to clear stock of your older product before the replacement arrives.
 
Did some more research. Turns out the deal is just for resellers and limited to a single demo board. They are adding more resellers and want people to see what the new boards are.

I knew it was too good to be true. Bummer.
 
Looks like this was all a bit of a misunderstanding. This is only for 1 board per reseller/customer for demo purposes

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...anny-shapiro-says-all-is-well-in-quadro-land/

Here's what the Quadro marketing manager had to say....

"Admittedly this offer is confusing. The promotion is in response to overwhelming requests from our resellers and developers for demo samples. We have chosen to enable new resellers and developers to acquire a single “not for resale” sample at a discount off list price — this is a common practice professional markets.
This promotion is not available to the general public, and unfortunately propagating this outside the reseller and developer community has created confusion.
The launch of the new Quadro products based on the Fermi architecture is in fact the most successful in the history of Quadro. End user and reviewer feedback has been phenomenal. Please check out a number of unbiased reviews at http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_news.html then click the Awards and Reviews tab."
 
n0x1ous said:
Looks like this was all a bit of a misunderstanding. This is only for 1 board per reseller/customer for demo purposes

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...anny-shapiro-says-all-is-well-in-quadro-land/

Here's what the Quadro marketing manager had to say....

"Admittedly this offer is confusing. The promotion is in response to overwhelming requests from our resellers and developers for demo samples. We have chosen to enable new resellers and developers to acquire a single “not for resale” sample at a discount off list price — this is a common practice professional markets.
This promotion is not available to the general public, and unfortunately propagating this outside the reseller and developer community has created confusion.
The launch of the new Quadro products based on the Fermi architecture is in fact the most successful in the history of Quadro. End user and reviewer feedback has been phenomenal. Please check out a number of unbiased reviews at http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_news.html then click the Awards and Reviews tab."
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Hardly a misunderstanding. Nvidia basicly just got THAT much more marketing/advertisement done by doing this special offer campaign.

Once again, Nvidia proves how good they are at marketting. If their engineers or CEO was as good as their marketing, Nvidia would be the new Intel today.
 
Man, your statement is so easy to tear to pieces. The highest performing product of this generation (HD5xxx/GTX4xx) is the Radeon HD5970. Made by AMD.

Dont come here with the SINGLE GPU talk to me mister. Product > your argument no matter how you choose to spin it.
 
Madcatatlas said:
Man, your statement is so easy to tear to pieces. The highest performing product of this generation (HD5xxx/GTX4xx) is the Radeon HD5970. Made by AMD.

Dont come here with the SINGLE GPU talk to me mister. Product > your argument no matter how you choose to spin it.
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Oh really...so CrossFire works in every single game, without issues and alaways beating a single 480GTX?

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.p...sk=view&id=480&Itemid=72&limit=1&limitstart=7

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-480,2585-8.html

If you wanna compare dual GPU's, compare it to another set of dual GPU's..aka 480 SLI

But both SLI and CorssFire have issues, making your statement debunked...sorry about that.
 
Nope, keep linking. Im comparing 1 product to another product. And you just cant beat the HD5970 in performance this generation. Will be interesting to see how the next gen goes.

My predictions are that the HD6990 will beat anything Nvidia launches. And you know what, Nvidia thinks this too 🙂
 
Madcatatlas said:
Nope, keep linking. Im comparing 1 product to another product. And you just cant beat the HD5970 in performance this generation. Will be interesting to see how the next gen goes.

My predictions are that the HD6990 will beat anything Nvidia launches. And you know what, Nvidia thinks this too 🙂
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It's easy to beat the 5970, just pick a game where CrossFire dosn't cut it..if you want to "forget" the links I just posted as continue as it didn't happen it speaks volumes about you and your "argumentation".

If you where to be consistant, you should be complaing about the powerconsumption of the 5970...but that "point" is only valid when it comes to NVIDIA...right? :hmm:
 
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