nVidia putting "Ti" and "GTX" on entry level SKUs...

ultima_trev

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While I admit AMD's naming scheme is pretty bad, there was a time when GTX and Ti stood for something.

Ti 200
Ti 500
8800 GTX
GTX 260
GTX 280
GTX 275
GTX 560 Ti
GTX 660 Ti

Those cards were legends back in their day.

Even the legendary G92 based 8800 GT didn't have the GTX moniker. Now we have Ti littering entry level offerings with little in the ways of price/peformance or performance in general. 550 Ti, 650 Ti, 750 Ti, now a 1050 Ti... Will they start making GTX x30 cards? GTX x20 Tis?!!!!
 

lolfail9001

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While I admit AMD's naming scheme is pretty bad, there was a time when GTX and Ti stood for something.

Ti 200
Ti 500
8800 GTX
GTX 260
GTX 280
GTX 275
GTX 560 Ti
GTX 660 Ti

Those cards were legends back in their day.

Even the legendary G92 based 8800 GT didn't have the GTX moniker. Now we have Ti littering entry level offerings with little in the ways of price/peformance or performance in general. 550 Ti, 650 Ti, 750 Ti, now a 1050 Ti... Will they start making GTX x30 cards? GTX x20 Tis?!!!!
They never lost their meaning: "faster than non-GTX" and "faster than non-Ti", respectively.
 

mikeymikec

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IMO most manufacturers consider it to be in their interests to muddy the waters with regard to product naming, at least a little. For example, Intel renaming their Atom-type parts to be i3's with Y in the model number to denote "why on earth should anyone buy this?". How else do you expect them to unload a load of stock with a bad rep for way more than they're worth?

To provide a little balance to this point, I'll acknowledge that the most truthful naming scheme is likely to be the dullest. It would likely involve the year number that it was released in and an extra identifier to denote where in the manufacturer's model line of that time its performance is placed.
 

lolfail9001

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IMO most manufacturers consider it to be in their interests to muddy the waters with regard to product naming, at least a little. For example, Intel renaming their Atom-type parts to be i3's with Y in the model number to denote "why on earth should anyone buy this?". How else do you expect them to unload a load of stock with a bad rep for way more than they're worth?

To provide a little balance to this point, I'll acknowledge that the most truthful naming scheme is likely to be the dullest. It would likely involve the year number that it was released in and an extra identifier to denote where in the manufacturer's model line of that time its performance is placed.
i3-Y are not Atom-type at all, rofl.

In fact, Intel's naming is pretty truthful, if confusing.
 

Qwertilot

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Aren't they (amazingly enough!) actually quite consistent in how they use Ti? Its the mildly faster chip within a given tier of cards. Saves them having to put 5's in the numbers or some such other silly thing.
 

mohit9206

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Non gaming series only use GT
GT710,720,730,740
Gaming series use GTX
GTX1050,1060,1070,1080
Doesn't matter where and how they use Ti as long as its kept exclusive to gaming series.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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Most memorable Ti = GF4
Still have both of my Leadtek Ti4400 cards somewhere. Wonder if they still work...
Man, I remember gawking at GTA 3 and Morrowind on a bitchin' AthlonXP 2000+ w/Ti4400 rig :D

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LTC8K6

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I fondly remember my ti4400 card.

In fact, it's the reason I like "ti" video cards to this day.

I also liked ATI's "Pro" naming, with cards like the 9800 Pro.

Wish AMD would bring it back.

RX480 Pro
 

DamZe

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It's all a marketing scheme, they hype their product by giving them cool names. GTX used to be the top of the top, if you had an 8800GTX back in the day, you had bragging right! Today you slap GTX on anything to make it look cool, even though a 1050 isn't even close to earning that title.

If it were up to me I would name them: 1050GS/1050GTS, 1060GSO(3GimpEdition)/1060GT, 1070GT, 1080GTX and 1090Ultra.
 

crisium

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Overtime GeForce has simply become "GeForce GTX". I don't look to much into it other than that.

At least they have numbers that are (mostly) accurate of which cards are faster. GTX 1060 with both 1280 and 1152 cores being the exception.

During the old days you had no logical way to guess the faster card without any preconceptions. 8800GS, 8800GT, 8800GTX, 8800 GTS, etc.

Hell, your preconceptions could be useless anyway as 8800GTS 512MB is faster than the 8800GT but the 8800GTS 640MB is slower than the 8800GT. Yowza!
 

daxzy

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I forgot about the Ti 4200 / 4400 / 4600. Probably because when I think GF4, I think GF4 MX. :(

Really? The GeForce 4 Ti 4200/4400 were legendary. The GF4 Ti 4200 debuted at $179 and easily outperformed the predecessor flagship $399 GF3 Ti 500. Those were great times - when the mid-range new products easily beat out the high-end just one generation before it.

If Nvidia applies their pricing strategy now to back then (2001), the Ti 4200 would be $349, Ti 4400 $449, Ti 4600 $549 or some crap (adjusted for inflation).
 

crisium

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Inflation isn't that extreme. Try knocking $100 of that Ti 4200 prediction.

But yes, the past had great times for pricing and performance upgrades over previous generations. I think Radeon 5850 and GTX 460 were the last we saw of that once great tradition.
 

bystander36

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It's all a marketing scheme, they hype their product by giving them cool names. GTX used to be the top of the top, if you had an 8800GTX back in the day, you had bragging right! Today you slap GTX on anything to make it look cool, even though a 1050 isn't even close to earning that title.

If it were up to me I would name them: 1050GS/1050GTS, 1060GSO(3GimpEdition)/1060GT, 1070GT, 1080GTX and 1090Ultra.
As a postfix, you'd be right, but as a prefix, it is used to denote it's a gaming card. Ti is a postfix, and used more like GTX used to be use as one, to denote it's a faster version of the card. All Ti postfixes let you know it's faster than the normal version, the same way GTX was used on the 8800.

As long as they are consistent, it's all good. And they have been, as long as the GTX has been a prefix (since the 3 digit card names started), and the same with the postfix Ti.
 
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SPBHM

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the first Ti line already had some cheaper models
Geforce 2 Ti and 3 TI 200
the GF 2 Ti was under $150, perhaps it was $100.
 

bystander36

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"Ti" doesn't mean a high end card, just that it's a higher end version of the same model number without the Ti at the end. i.e. 950ti is faster than a 950.
 

bystander36

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Then explain the 550ti. Was there a slower 550?
It's not slower than the 550, which simply didn't exist. A likely explanation is simply that they were planned for a 550, that they decided not to make/release. It still doesn't break the rule, as it's not slower than a 550 or lower numbered card. I just existed without the base model.
 

LTC8K6

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I don't think there is any rule. Ti name has been used in lots of ways by NV.
 

bystander36

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I don't think there is any rule. Ti name has been used in lots of ways by NV.
For the last 7 years at least, it's been used as a denotation of being a better than the base model of the same number. In previous years, it seems to have been used in other ways. Now it's like AMD's xxx5 numbering.