NVIDIA preparing TITAN X Collector’s Edition

[PeterScott]

Most people can't factor in the time of owning the card. For me, even the TITAN card has value due to the time of ownership you have of unparalleled performance before everyone else.

It seemed pretty obvious that is the main benefit for some people.

But playing mine is bigger than yours in epeen contests, is something I consider to be of ZERO value.

Less than ZERO actually. IMO it's kind of childish to think having performance before other people has some kind of value.

 

[tential]

It seemed pretty obvious that is the main benefit for some people.

But playing mine is bigger than yours in epeen contests, is something I consider to be of ZERO value.

Less than ZERO actually. IMO it's kind of childish to think having performance before other people has some kind of value.

You're saying you understand.... but it doesn't seem like you do.

It's not an epeen contest(For most I HOPE!). It's 5-6 months of your life you can spend gaming at that level of performance. It's TIME. That's an extremely valuable asset that isn't easy to replicate.
It's also the STRONGEST of cards.

For some people, it's just $1200.... It's not a big deal, especially if they sell their card/mine with it.

You may think it's childish to be the first person to ride the rollercoaster, watch a movie, or go into space, but people put value on that.... Are you seriously acting like this is brand new news?

Edit:
Dude, by the way, if you have the new Titan in your signature in a month or next year, none of us will judge you.
Ok, some of us will judge you, I will welcome you with open arms!

Also, this is why I buy AMD, because I place zero value in playing ANYTHING first (or doing most recreational stuff first), but that's why I say, if you're a day one gamer, go Nvidia.

 

[Crono]

We could argue forever about premium pricing in any category (cars, clothes, food, etc) and what makes something "worth it". What it comes down to is companies will price things across a range and go as high as they can to maximize margins and profit. That's just the way it is, and it's not like AMD, Intel, Samsung, Apple et al in the technology industry don't do the same according to capitalistic rules. If it's overpriced in your estimation, don't buy it.

Over $800 is too rich for my blood, let alone $1,200-$1,500, and even that much I wouldn't pay unless it's Volta and/or 4K benchmarks show it handling all current games at 144Hz (which would be enough to compel me to get a 4K 144Hz monitor as soon as possible, though they aren't inexpensive or widely available yet, either).

 

[PeterScott]

You're saying you understand.... but it doesn't seem like you do.

It's not an epeen contest(For most I HOPE!). It's 5-6 months of your life you can spend gaming at that level of performance. It's TIME. That's an extremely valuable asset that isn't easy to replicate.
It's also the STRONGEST of cards.

It is obviously a contest when you state "before everyone else".

And really unless you are comparing with everyone else, it is largely irrelevant if you are on the x80 Ti track or the Titan track. Your time at each performance level is essentially the same. What difference does it make unless you are caught up in the childish games of "first" whether you are offset by a bit. It isn't like last generation x80 Ti chips represent any kind of suffering.

 

[tential]

$1000 for phones. $1500 on video cards. People are getting dumber every day. When the market finally comes back down people are going to wish they had the grand or two in the bank vs having a stupid video card.

That's why I recommend AMD. I hate to recommend people to spend MORE than they have to. More money in investments is super important.
As everything starts to spiral into insane levels, I'm saving more and more money. Be fearful when others are exuberant and exuberant when others are fearful.

There is no sign of any of these trends reversing.

Instead manufacturers have realized that they can squeeze enthusiasts and the will just pay more and more.

Eh, that's what people said about the housing prices. That they can only go up! We'll see. It's been a CRAZY trend so far.

We could argue forever about premium pricing in any category (cars, clothes, food, etc) and what makes something "worth it". What it comes down to is companies will price things across a range and go as high as they can to maximize margins and profit. That's just the way it is, and it's not like AMD, Intel, Samsung, Apple et al in the technology industry don't do the same according to capitalistic rules. If it's overpriced in your estimation, don't buy it.

Over $800 is too rich for my blood, let alone $1,200-$1,500, and even that much I wouldn't pay unless it's Volta and/or 4K benchmarks show it handling all current games at 144Hz (which would be enough to compel me to get a 4K 144Hz monitor as soon as possible, though they aren't inexpensive or widely available yet, either).

Agreed. We both agree that we are willing to wait for performance. We just have different theories on why people spend the money to get perf now. Either way, neither of us are going to spend that money it looks like.

 

[Dribble]

Titan's are just good business sense. You sell a range of products to appeal to different markets. There's a market for ultra high end products to those for whom the cost just does not matter. If you're not that market (and hardly any of us are) then be happy someone else is helping to pay the r&d costs - the more money there is in PC gaming the more investment Nvidia will put into development for it.

 

[Charlie22911]

Titan's are just good business sense. You sell a range of products to appeal to different markets. There's a market for ultra high end products to those for whom the cost just does not matter. If you're not that market (and hardly any of us are) then be happy someone else is helping to pay the r&d costs - the more money there is in PC gaming the more investment Nvidia will put into development for it.

Sounds a lot like trickle down economics to me, and I may be inclined to agree if card prices were not increasing so much.
Their "Founders Edition" launch pricing compared to AIB SKUs was a bit shady, but I ordered two launch 1080s regardless.
But I digress, as others have said this will without a doubt be the fastest card on the block and that is valuable to some. It will also sting those who ordered the second Pascal titan, doubly so for those who saw the 1080ti eclipse the first.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Someone will buy it. Won't be me. I'm just sad I didn't buy some NVDA stock a year ago.

 

[tential]

Someone will buy it. Won't be me. I'm just sad I didn't buy some NVDA stock a year ago.

Ya, I said that Nvidia stock was a better buy than a gtx 1070. In typical fashion I didn't execute....

 

[Insomniator]

People buy 100k cars, spend 10k a year on golf, watches, whatever.

People will pay for anything, and its not a waste if you enjoy it and can comfortably afford it.

All the kids begging for TNT2's 17 years ago are grown up and have money to spend -- Nvidia is realizing that!

 

[EXCellR8]

Not really... graphics cards, at the end of the day, aren't really meant to be collected per say, but I do think it's clever/sleazy of NVIDIA to take advantage of enthusiasts with deep pockets. Releasing a product that is dubbed as a "Collector's Edition" makes it less desirable in my opinion but NVIDIA does realize that GPU's have become quite collectible over the years, with many private collectors... so why not release something that will certainly cater to those (dumb dumbs) and make themselves more money.

I won't be buying one, but I don't speak for those who want to say they got one just to say it. It's the kind of customer NVIDIA relies on.

 

[Cloudfire777]

Its almost like some people here think that Nvidia is forcing someone to buy their GPUs.

Get over the whole «You are a snob and a fool for buying the $xxxx graphic card».

People have and will always buy whatever they can afford to buy. Your whining and condescending attitude will never change that 😉

 

[PeterScott]

People buy 100k cars, spend 10k a year on golf, watches, whatever.

If people coud buy the same car, brand new, for 50K, six months later, and everyone knew it, then anyone with a brain would wait 6 months.

This isn't just a question of buying expensive goods. It's a question throwing away money to have something 6 months before other people.

 

[HurleyBird]

This isn't just a question of buying expensive goods. It's a question throwing away money to have something 6 months before other people.

That's, once again, assuming that Nvidia doesn't grow the gap between Titan and x80 Ti cards in the future. Whether they do that or not will most likely depend on how competitive AMD is at the time.

 

[EXCellR8]

Hopefully this thread gets locked... there's no way it's not toxic for the board to have another one of these hype-drama threads turned into a "who's getting one?" thread.

card's not even out and there's already debate over what it means to want one lol

 

[tential]

If people coud buy the same car, brand new, for 50K, six months later, and everyone knew it, then anyone with a brain would wait 6 months.

This isn't just a question of buying expensive goods. It's a question throwing away money to have something 6 months before other people.

I dunno if you were here during the GTX 1070/1080 founders edition release, but we would have had some "lively" discussion with you.
Let's try to be civil, this isn't a conversation where we need to be hostile. Like I said before, you know people do this. You know people pay more/try to do things first. So you know it's human character, lets not insult people by saying they don't have a brain because they value something that you don't value.

You don't have to value owning something early (I don't value this at ALL just like you), but I at least understand that there are people who do and that they gain utility out of it, even if I don't.

Hopefully this thread gets locked... there's no way it's not toxic for the board to have another one of these hype-drama threads turned into a "who's getting one?" thread.

card's not even out and there's already debate over what it means to want one lol

If you don't want this to be a toxic discussion, don't make toxic posts. Make a post that contributes to the discussion. If you want the thread locked, just report it.
Is there something about the Titan that you'd like to discuss that you currently are being prevented from discussing due to the current train of discussion?

Not really... graphics cards, at the end of the day, aren't really meant to be collected per say, but I do think it's clever/sleazy of NVIDIA to take advantage of enthusiasts with deep pockets. Releasing a product that is dubbed as a "Collector's Edition" makes it less desirable in my opinion but NVIDIA does realize that GPU's have become quite collectible over the years, with many private collectors... so why not release something that will certainly cater to those (dumb dumbs) and make themselves more money.

I won't be buying one, but I don't speak for those who want to say they got one just to say it. It's the kind of customer NVIDIA relies on.

Why aren't graphics cards meant to be collected?

 

[Bouowmx]

Discussion of NVIDIA TITAN vs GeForce GTX *80 Ti again...?
Curiously, lack of any leaks, especially from Asia. When is 'it' coming?

 

[IllogicalGlory]

Why aren't graphics cards meant to be collected?

You can collect them, but I wouldn't expect it to ever appreciate in value or really be valuable to others. They're mainly tools and they stop being useful pretty quickly; plus there's the issue of deprecating compatibility in the long term. It's not exactly easy to get a 10-15 year old graphics card to work optimally today. The only graphics cards that could really qualify as collector's items are stuff like the 5950 Ultra or the 3DFX cards (and those only go for $50-$100 realistically). There's no way this card will be that difficult to find or sought after for its historical significance 15-20 years from now. Finally, there's no guarantee your unit will even work 20 years later.

The collection would mainly be for personal interest, rather than having a widespread interest or valuation like toys, cars, etc. might have.

 

[fleshconsumed]

You can collect them, but I wouldn't expect it to ever appreciate in value or really be valuable to others. They're mainly tools and they stop being useful pretty quickly; plus there's the issue of deprecating compatibility in the long term. It's not exactly easy to get a 10-15 year old graphics card to work optimally today. The only graphics cards that could really qualify as collector's items are stuff like the 5950 Ultra or the 3DFX cards (and those only go for $50-$100 realistically). There's no way this card will be that difficult to find or sought after for its historical significance 15-20 years from now. Finally, there's no guarantee your unit will even work 20 years later.

The collection would mainly be for personal interest, rather than having a widespread interest or valuation like toys, cars, etc. might have.

Well, some cards do appreciate. Have you checked ebay for 3dfx 5500 cards lately? They sell for hundreds now. Having said that, this card certainly won't appreciate in value.

 

[Bouowmx]

"It" is a Star Wars Collector's Edition: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/star-wars-titan-xp-collectors-edition/

Same specs and 1200 USD price as standard edition.

 

[railven]

"It" is a Star Wars Collector's Edition: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/star-wars-titan-xp-collectors-edition/

Same specs and 1200 USD price as standard edition.

WHAT!???

Galactic Empire!

Kind of cool it semi looks like a lightsaber from the side, but I just blew my PC allowance on a full EKWB loop and I'm still hunting for a freaking i7 8700K.

EDIT:

Yeah, if I had stupid money, I'd definitely buy one.
Mental Note: Need to make more money.

 

[Headfoot]

I guess they know their market!

 

[pj-]

I guess they have a surplus of fully enabled chips and don't want to drop the price?

As to the discussion about why people buy Titans, I don't think it's an "e-peen" thing for most people. I have one Pascal Titan X. There are people with 2, 3, or even 4 of them. At best it's "people i know personally-peen", because once you are talking about the internet, there's only 1 person with the most powerful PC, and it ain't me.

I just like having the best performance. I like cranking the settings on a game and still getting triple digit FPS at 1440p, and soon 4k. My PC sits under the desk and has no windows. Nobody knows what's in there except me, and I guess anyone who reads this...

 

[tential]

I guess they have a surplus of fully enabled chips and don't want to drop the price?

As to the discussion about why people buy Titans, I don't think it's an "e-peen" thing for most people. I have one Pascal Titan X. There are people with 2, 3, or even 4 of them. At best it's "people i know personally-peen", because once you are talking about the internet, there's only 1 person with the most powerful PC, and it ain't me.

I just like having the best performance. I like cranking the settings on a game and still getting triple digit FPS at 1440p, and soon 4k. My PC sits under the desk and has no windows. Nobody knows what's in there except me, and I guess anyone who reads this...

Hence why I don't like to post my PC specs (and have thus been mistaken as an Nvidia gpu owner by a few people due to my enthusiasm over Nvidia performance as a business).

It's for me only so I am not going to tell you what I use unless that's the conversation.
I want that personal peen feeling, but I'm reserving it until some financial milestone.

 

[AdamK47]

I don't know if I can take Nvidia seriously about anything anymore after seeing this reveal. It's a definite WTF moment. Sleazily slapping the Star Wars license onto an existing product. I know just about every product in the world has had the Star Wars license draped over it at some point in time, but I thought Nvidia was above all that.

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