Nvidia NV35 to be launched in May

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Nvidia NV35 to be launched in May

All go for E3

By Staff at the Newsdesk: Friday 25 April 2003, 10:36


THE GRAPHICS CHIP wars are about to hot up some more. According to DigiTimes, the Nvidia NV35 is going to launch at E3, the Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles next month.
E3 starts on 14 May so that gives only three weeks to wait. If the report is accurate. But then, if the report is accurate, the NV35 is only a slightly tweaked NV30. And you know that's not true if you read the INQUIRER regularly.

Before the graphics speed demons out there start slavering too much, remember that a launch is not the same as the product becoming available to the public. It's a fair guess that the report is right about the timing even if it manages to be completely off on most of the rest of it. E3 is the perfect time for a launch.

Many people claim to have seen the NV35 up and running already. It's certain that Nvidia has pulled out all of the stops to get NV35 to market so that it can reclaim the performance crown from ATI. Let's just hope that the QA process survives all this rushing to market. µ

 

[ElFenix]

more toys i can't afford

if nvidia just fixes their aniso most people will be pleased

 

[Wag]

Ah, The Inquirer- All the News that's fit to Fabricate.

Yeah, well, even if it's coming out next month, the only thing that will save it is if it's competitive with the 9800 at a similar price-point, with a normal fan.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Wag
Ah, The Inquirer- All the News that's fit to Fabricate.

Yeah, well, even if it's coming out next month, the only thing that will save it is if it's competitive with the 9800 at a similar price-point, with a normal fan.

I agree about the fan, it was far too noisy.

 

[Draco]

Hopefully this thing runs much cooler, and doesn't require that loud ass blower device like the one I just installed in my boss's machine.

What about performance? It's supose to be faster then the 5800 Ultra? But they are using standard DDR memory?

Hmmm

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: Draco
doesn't require that loud ass blower device like the one I just installed in my boss's machine.

Lmao, do you still have a job??? Either you have a very tolerant (or deaf boss), or you really hate him and you're just looking for an excuse to be fired.



Chiz

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: Draco
Hopefully this thing runs much cooler, and doesn't require that loud ass blower device like the one I just installed in my boss's machine.

What about performance? It's supose to be faster then the 5800 Ultra? But they are using standard DDR memory?

Hmmm

According to this, it will not use DDR2, but standard DDR VRAM.
Any word on .13 or .15 micron?

 

[chizow]

It's .13micron and DDR-I. DDR-II for NV30 didn't offer anything other than faster memory clockspeeds but the potential bandwidth increases from the higher operating frequencies was still severely bottlenecked by a 128-bit memory interface. Reports since NV30 from both ATi and nVidia had hinted that DDR-II and a 256-bit memory bus would be difficult to implement with current generation memory controllers. Using DDR-II was also the cause of NV30's massive power consumption, heat, noise/cooling, and need for an expensive 12-layer PCB and its lack of a 256-bit memory bus. All for ~200-300MHz in operating frequency (DDR). Needless to say, nVidia has corrected NV30's problems by going with DDR-I and a 256-bit bus; any further improvements will be gravy.

Chiz

 

[Keysplayr]

I want one. I will have to sell my car, but I want one. mhuwhahahaha!!!!
Maybe not.

 

[MatthewF01]

thank God...


2 of my friends were about to begin considering ATi cards for my friend's next system we are gonna build...


I TRIED to tell them that the NV35 is gonna blow the ass off of everything else, but they just wouldnt hear it. NV30 really did ruin people's outlook on Nvidia. but I STLL HAVE FAITH IN THEM [and NV35].


wasnt it set to be fabbed by IBM? or is that NV40?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: MatthewF01
thank God...


2 of my friends were about to begin considering ATi cards for my friend's next system we are gonna build...


I TRIED to tell them that the NV35 is gonna blow the ass off of everything else, but they just wouldnt hear it. NV30 really did ruin people's outlook on Nvidia. but I STLL HAVE FAITH IN THEM [and NV35].


wasnt it set to be fabbed by IBM? or is that NV40?

"blow the ass off of everything else" ??? Interesting way to put it, hope your friends can wait and I hope they can fork over $450+ for it.

 

[touchmyichi]

this could be the card to do it for nvidia. Personally I think this one has a chance.

 

[Wurrmm]

I doubt it will be 450. New it will most likely be cheaper than that since they already developed the tech and stuff. MY guess is 400 or less.

 

[Rogozhin]

ati already has a .13 micron vpu out.

the 9600

If this card is any indication the .13 radeon 9900 256mb is going to be one difficult card to beat.

Rogo

 

[titanmiller]

My guess is it will be using DDR-I memory at 425mhz (850 effictive) on a 256 bit bus. That would give nv35 27.2gB/s, a nice imporvement. I guess I'll have to wait and see how accurate I am.

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: Rogozhin
ati already has a .13 micron vpu out.

the 9600

If this card is any indication the .13 radeon 9900 256mb is going to be one difficult card to beat.

Rogo

Maybe so, but the .13 micron tech will allow nvidia's new card to run cooler, which is a major problem for the FX line.
Nvidia rushed the design and production of the FX to compete with ATi's 9700 Pro (even though it's dx8 vs. dx9 hardware- doesn't make sense to me, either ) and went with .15 micron production. That, coupled with DDR2, presented the cooling issues present on the FX 5800.
A .13 micron gpu with a wider rambus and cooler DDR1 should yield a pretty impressive card. Hopefully

;

 

[MatthewF01]

yea i guess i have the money out of everyone else, so its no problem to slap down a few hundred for a new video card.


I will just wait to buy NV35 when Doom3 is out, that way the price will be lower...

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Wurrmm
I doubt it will be 450. New it will most likely be cheaper than that since they already developed the tech and stuff. MY guess is 400 or less.

Then how do you explain the $450+ NV30 boards? Yeah there's probably a decent chance that the NV35 could debut at $399 but I don't see how that's possible when everyone is claming that its going to be here sooo soon and the NV30 is well into the $400 and up range today. And if the NV35 is supposedly all mighty and superior, it being cheaper than the NV30 would be shocker to me.

 

[FearoftheNight]

lack of availibility

 

[Pocatello]

Wow, another $400 videocard, just what we need.

 

[toant103]

wow, the FX lifespan is like a butterfly

 

[sxr7171]

Honestly, I think Nvidia has a chance this time. Just the 256-bit bus alone will make it competitive with the 9700/9800pro models. If they improve the AF it will help a lot, but they can still do well with competitive memory bandwidth. As for the FX series of cards, they will just have to look at it as a write-off, any smart business would at this point. There is no way the production costs on the FX5800 Ultra are going to get to a point where it can compete with the 9700/9800pro models even 6 months from now. The rest of the 5800s may acheive a decent price/performance ratio but even that will take too long. So their next design might actually cost effective and will probably be priced competitively (if Nvidia has any sense - I believe that barring this recent fumble that they do).

From here on out it is just a matter of damage recovery for Nvidia, and they seem like they are smart enough to do it now instead of waiting for the current FX cards to fail miserably and tarnish Nvidia's reputation more than it has been tarnished already.

 

[keitaro]

Originally posted by: godmare
Maybe so, but the .13 micron tech will allow nvidia's new card to run cooler, which is a major problem for the FX line.
Nvidia rushed the design and production of the FX to compete with ATi's 9700 Pro (even though it's dx8 vs. dx9 hardware- doesn't make sense to me, either ) and went with .15 micron production. That, coupled with DDR2, presented the cooling issues present on the FX 5800.
A .13 micron gpu with a wider rambus and cooler DDR1 should yield a pretty impressive card. Hopefully

;

Curious... could you state where it's documented that the FX chips were fabricated via .13 micron process?

 

[BFG10K]

From the leaked specs I've seen the card should be much better than the NV30 and it won't require ridiculous cooling either. I just hope they get their current anisotropic filtering sorted out as at the moment it's a total joke.

 

[godmare]

Originally posted by: keitaro

Originally posted by: godmare
Maybe so, but the .13 micron tech will allow nvidia's new card to run cooler, which is a major problem for the FX line.
Nvidia rushed the design and production of the FX to compete with ATi's 9700 Pro (even though it's dx8 vs. dx9 hardware- doesn't make sense to me, either ) and went with .15 micron production. That, coupled with DDR2, presented the cooling issues present on the FX 5800.
A .13 micron gpu with a wider rambus and cooler DDR1 should yield a pretty impressive card. Hopefully

;

Curious... could you state where it's documented that the FX chips were fabricated via .13 micron process?

Actually, I was a bit befuddled on that point: The 5600 and 5800 are .13 micron, and the 5200 is .15 micron.
5200 NV34
5600 NV31
5800 NV30