Nvidia Kepler performance driver fix released.

bystander36

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I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. Often these types of things result in very mild improvements at best.
 

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There's no source...

The source is in the video.

"Witcher 3 Nvidia confirm Kepler fix incoming a community manager at Nvidia has responded to complaints about Kepler based GPU'S the 600 and 700 series and lower than expected FPS in The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt."
 

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The source is in the video.

"Witcher 3 Nvidia confirm Kepler fix incoming a community manager at Nvidia has responded to complaints about Kepler based GPU'S the 600 and 700 series and lower than expected FPS in The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt."
Yes, but he doesn't actually link to any of that.
 

Gikaseixas

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So in other words, Kepler was neglected

I hope my 880M sees an increase, looking forward to it. Get to work Nvidia
 

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With the new info about the 8xMSAA/64xTess, I wonder if it's just going to be a reduction in those two options when a non-Maxwell GPU is detected?

Simple fix. Can anyone with NVInspector monkey with those options and see if there is a performance boost?
 

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I'm afraid too many people here are getting their hopes up about some major optimization that will fix their Kepler cards, when all you got was a off hand comment that the driver team found some bugs that they are working on. There are all kinds of bugs in existence in all these drivers at all times. A fix to a few bugs is not likely going to make ground breaking changes. You might not see any change in performance.
 
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So in other words, Kepler was neglected

Just guessing but mabe Nvidia optimized for there latest cards first and were late to properly optimize their entire lineup?
or if this is a conspiracy mabe they are gonna play the good guy and suddenly make all their cards do well and have some free advertising/exposure?
 

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I'm afraid too many people here are getting their hopes up about some major optimization that will fix their Kepler cards, when all you got was a off hand comment that the driver time found some bugs that they are working on. There are all kinds of bugs in existence in all these drivers at all times. A fix to a few bugs is not likely going to make ground breaking changes. You might not see any change in performance.

This could be true but I hope for the best for those who paid 500$ for a gtx780ti.:thumbsup:
 

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I'm afraid too many people here are getting their hopes up about some major optimization that will fix their Kepler cards, when all you got was a off hand comment that the driver team found some bugs that they are working on. There are all kinds of bugs in existence in all these drivers at all times. A fix to a few bugs is not likely going to make ground breaking changes. You might not see any change in performance.

That's what I fear. I've seen that thread before on the Geforce forums, and alot of claims were about Kepler performing worse with the newest drivers than with the previous drivers.

I'm afraid those bugs Nvidia are talking about is just fixing possible regressions for other games, not any optimizations for the new games
 

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That's what I fear. I've seen that thread before on the Geforce forums, and alot of claims were about Kepler performing worse with the newest drivers than with the previous drivers.

I'm afraid those bugs Nvidia are talking about is just fixing possible regressions for other games, not any optimizations for the new games

It might be that the fixes are IQ issues, which take more performance to do correctly, if FPS are dropping.
 

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780ti owner remaining skeptical... Bought nvidia due to perceived good drivers support, should have stuck with my 7970!
 

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Wait, yet another failed driver release from NV? It's starting to be a normal thing for them.

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I meant what I said earlier -- if you don't own an Nvidia card, this thread of no interest to you, and keep your trolling out of it.
-- stahlhart
 

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I meant what I said earlier -- if you don't own an Nvidia card, this thread of no interest to you, and keep your trolling out of it.
-- stahlhart

Agreed with what Stahlhart is saying, similarly, please no discussion of nVidia cards in the AMD threads! Agree 100%
 

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With the new info about the 8xMSAA/64xTess, I wonder if it's just going to be a reduction in those two options when a non-Maxwell GPU is detected?

Simple fix. Can anyone with NVInspector monkey with those options and see if there is a performance boost?

The poor Kepler performance has nothing to do with tesellation. In fact the performance hit from enabling Hairworks + HBAO+ is actually a bit lower on Kepler GPUs. A lot of people seem to be overlooking this...

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...e_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-2560_u_off.jpg

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...2_Assassins_of_Kings-test-witcher3_2560_u.jpg

780 Ti - 34 FPS avg with GW off, 26 with it on - ~26% difference
980 - 46 FPS avg with GW off, 33 with it on - ~32% difference

So as you see, Kepler takes less of a perf hit from enabling GW features...
 

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The poor Kepler performance has nothing to do with tesellation. In fact the performance hit from enabling Hairworks + HBAO+ is actually a bit lower on Kepler GPUs. A lot of people seem to be overlooking this...

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...e_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-2560_u_off.jpg

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...2_Assassins_of_Kings-test-witcher3_2560_u.jpg

780 Ti - 34 FPS avg with GW off, 26 with it on - ~26% difference
980 - 46 FPS avg with GW off, 33 with it on - ~32% difference

So as you see, Kepler takes less of a perf hit from enabling GW features...

Exactly. GK110 is great at tesselation - better than Hawaii. Kepler's performance is bad in general and even worse with gameworks off. Trying to think of what its defficient of compared to GCN and Maxwell and ROPS comes to mind but then again tahiti is equalling GK110 with 16 less ROPS so thats probably not it either.

I think this is why the outcry about driver neglect since we know that GK110 should separate from tahiti under normal circumstances
 

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The poor Kepler performance has nothing to do with tesellation. In fact the performance hit from enabling Hairworks + HBAO+ is actually a bit lower on Kepler GPUs. A lot of people seem to be overlooking this...

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...e_Witcher_3_Wild_Hunt-game-new-2560_u_off.jpg

http://gamegpu.ru/images/remote/htt...2_Assassins_of_Kings-test-witcher3_2560_u.jpg

780 Ti - 34 FPS avg with GW off, 26 with it on - ~26% difference
980 - 46 FPS avg with GW off, 33 with it on - ~32% difference

So as you see, Kepler takes less of a perf hit from enabling GW features...

Thanks for your input ,that's good stuff.:thumbsup:
 

krumme

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I just hope for some dx12 driver to work well when win10 hits for my older mobile nv cards.
We need thin drivers not gw, patches, fixes whatever. The times have changed. I am not interested in updating driver in 10 machines in the house each month or quarter. Idiotic use of time.

Install driver.
Done.
Games update automaticly.

Thats it.
 

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I meant what I said earlier -- if you don't own an Nvidia card, this thread of no interest to you, and keep your trolling out of it.
-- stahlhart

Damn, so now with my 960 I cant post in AMD GPU threads, what a shame.... Oh, wait.



The "fix soon" is just an option that will let the game detect if you have a Kepler card, downgrade Tess to x16, and be done with it. "Fixes" from NV these days, you know...