nVidia Keeps Rehashing the 9xxx Series

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Quiksilver

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Originally posted by: qbfx
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Originally posted by: Syntax Error
9800GTX2 = 150% of 8800GT

New card no one knows about yet? :D

Edit...

Arr.... quoted wrong card, damn auto-correctness of brain.

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Guess 1)

9600GT = 75% of 8800GT
9800GT = 125% of 8800GT
9800GTX = 175% of 8800GT
9800GT2 = 225% of 8800GT

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9800GT2 - New card no one knows about yet? :D

I'm just gonna quote myself on this one cause its finally fixed xD

damn auto-correctness of brain.
 

mitchhamlin

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qbfx

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Originally posted by: mitchhamlin
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are you 11 or 12 yrs old ? lemme guess - 10 !
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: nRollo
People really make too much of naming conventions, parts should be purchased for the price/performance they offer in the current market.

Things like "well they should have offered a part with double top end performance for $50 by now, because it only took X months for card Y to launch" are faulty reasoning at best.

1. R&D time is different for every part, not like they can say "invent faster you slackers!".
2. Except for Crysis, the game only Jesus can run, how many people here are inconvenienced by current levels of performance? By that I mean you have games that can't be run on current hardware at your resolution 4X16X?

I'm sure NVIDIA wants to sell you parts and they are likely delivering them as fast as they can. They can't just say "Uh oh, ATi launched the 3870X2, we need to launch a part!"

I assure you, I spoke to him last night about it and he can't run it either... He said it was a lot harder to magic his computer to be fast enough to max out crysis then it was to turn water into wine or walk on water... :)
 

batmang

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NVidia doesn't by any means " suck ". I think they are playing their cards on the 9K series. As soon as ATi drops the big dog card from their new line up... NVidia will donkey punch them AGAIN with a stupid fast stupid expensive card that I will never buy. I will still be buying the ATi cards. CrossFire will make up the performance difference at a lower cost.... I hope. :p
 

Oyeve

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We need the competition so I hope there is no "winner". Each video camp makes good stuff as weel as bad. Its up to us to see whats the best for our needs. I am more partial to ATI but I have used many nVidia cards and still do on my non-main systems. Whoever makes a decent card at a decent price with less bugs is a winner in my book. But my book has many chapters. :)
 

Tempered81

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bumping with other thoughts: ray tracing, 9800 series, intel IGP, larabee, GPU vs. CPU cost debate, DAAMIT, Intel vs. Nvidia, Huang's comments, PC gaming status, etc etc....

Nvidia still sucking... :)
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
Originally posted by: JustaGeek
What's wrong with you...? :shocked:

I'm very upset that the Geforce 9 & tri sli implementations/requirements are aimed at making profits. I know they have to make money, and that's why they are a business. I would like to see ATI release a great (single) GPU; hopefully the R700 will be the one. Just feels like Nvidia Corp. are releasing to the public only what is required to snub the competition. Also, I'm not the only one who feels this way, which is why the poll is there.

ALL Video cards are geared at making profits you goof!!!! LMAO. :D

Seriously man, what are you doing? This is kids stuff. :brokenheart:
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
bumping with other thoughts: ray tracing, 9800 series, intel IGP, larabee, GPU vs. CPU cost debate, DAAMIT, Intel vs. Nvidia, Huang's comments, PC gaming status, etc etc....

Nvidia still sucking... :)

Jared,

Ray Tracing? You mean the technology that is years away from being close to viable? And only then will it even be partially used?

9800 series: GTX & GX2. The GTX offers Ultra performance without the Ultra pricetag. And no, it's not the same as an 8800GT/GTS. There are some serious features with the new GTX that differentiate them. The GX2 is offers the best performance you can get in a single slot solution. These are not my opinions boys. These are facts.

Intel IGP. heh?

larabee (This is a big wait and see at best). Looks great on paper, but the ink has not dried yet. So to speak.

CPU vs. GPU. Look, CPU's kick ass at some things that a GPU couldn't dream of. And the flip side of the coin is true as well. modern GPU's can do certain things that even a CPU 5 years from now would have trouble with. So while Intel and Nvidia have their words, that's all they are.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
bumping with other thoughts: ray tracing, 9800 series, intel IGP, larabee, GPU vs. CPU cost debate, DAAMIT, Intel vs. Nvidia, Huang's comments, PC gaming status, etc etc....

Nvidia still sucking... :)

If the 9600GT I now owns means that Nvidia sucks, I sure hope they learn to suck like this more often!

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chizow

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My take on it is unless you own an 8800GTX or an X1950XTX its time to put up or shut-up. You're always going to find a reason to find fault with whatever is being released, but here even a few months later, we have high-end performance for even cheaper than before.

In a few months we'll have a new high-end part, maybe, but you can certainly expect a high-end price tag to match. Which again brings us back full circle to those who originally paid $500-600 for the last major performance leaps from both camps and the folks who actually shelled out for the 8800GTX and X1950XTX.
 

Tempered81

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yah keys they do have the best of the best, you're right, and the 9600 can't be beat by anything out there especially at that price point.

The biggest issue now is the going up against intel for the gpu market and "gpu is better than cpu" debate. It will be interesting to see what unfolds, but as said before ray tracing is a few years off in the distance and that will be what puts larabee on the map. A lot is boiling up now can't wait to see how it turns out.
 

Rusin

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Nvidia's mistake were to release G92's with GF8-name. If they would have released them with 9800 names at first place there wouldn't be problems and nobody would complain. For example 8800 GT should have been 9800 GT: It's faster than G80-GTS by some margin and that GT-moniker dictates that it's not ranked as high in 9800 series as GTS was in 8800 series. So name is justified. 8800 GTS 512 should have been 9800 GTS. This card has big enough performance difference to G80-GTS to justify that 9800-name. GF 9800 GX2 is that much ahead of all cards in 8800-series so, it's name would obviously be justified by that.
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When you think November 2006 and compare to April 2008 we have had good progress in performance(two weeks after each G9x-card launch + two weeks after G80 launch):
9800 GX2: Same price as 8800 GTS 640MB had few weeks after launch --> more than twice the performance with same amount of money
9800 GTX: Same price as 7900 GTO 512MB had ----> more than three times better performance with same amount of money
9600 GT: Smaller price than 7600 GT -----> more than five times better performance

And upcoming entrylevel cards:
9500 GT: This card is replacing 8500 GT and has performance very close to 8600 GTS
9500 GS: This card has equal performance with 8600 GT.
 

Sirlaughalot87

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But why are the market going the "multi" GPU way! I don´t want to use bad scaling tech as SLI or Crossfire, i want ONE card, i don´t want two of those energy leechers in my case, i don´t want two cards that can malfunction; One card is more then enough...as it should be.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: Sirlaughalot87
But why are the market going the "multi" GPU way! I don´t want to use bad scaling tech as SLI or Crossfire, i want ONE card, i don´t want two of those energy leechers in my case, i don´t want two cards that can malfunction; One card is more then enough...as it should be.

Because the software (Crysis) is outpacing the hardware. If the game makers were not pushing the limits of the current high end, there would less likely be little to no demand for SLI/Tri-SLI.
 

Nathelion

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Because they want to develop the technology and leverage it in the HPC market, so the consumer market gets to play testing ground for the new software?
/speculation
 

batmang

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Originally posted by: Sirlaughalot87
But why are the market going the "multi" GPU way! I don´t want to use bad scaling tech as SLI or Crossfire, i want ONE card, i don´t want two of those energy leechers in my case, i don´t want two cards that can malfunction; One card is more then enough...as it should be.

Why twin turbo when you could use one large turbo.
(This makes no sense just like this thread.. but I'm posting it anyway.)