NVIDIA holds patent on GPU Tesselation.

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ZimZum

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
ATi patented a tessellation unit as well. Much the same way as Nvidia got SLi when they aquired 3DFX, I'm sure this is now AMD's as well.

More.

More yet.

There is a big difference between the two companies though. AMD has been actually using their tessellation patents and including tessellators in their silicon for generations now, Nvidia's exists on paper only.


Yep

ATI cards have been capable of hardware tessellation (Truform) since like 2001. nVidia, not so much. In fact the Tessellation in DX11 is actually based on Truform.
 

Wreckage

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All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

Then the AMDZone comes out with their usual thread crapping and personal attacks.... sigh.



Originally posted by: Compddd
Why hasn't everything NVIDIA been banned yet? We need another AMDZone

Seems that way at least. :thumbsdown:
 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

Then the AMDZone comes out with their usual thread crapping and personal attacks.... sigh.

You know what's scary, I'm pretty sure you posted this with a straight face.

 

Hauk

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Nov 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

Then the AMDZone comes out with their usual thread crapping and personal attacks.... sigh.

You know what's scary, I'm pretty sure you posted this with a straight face.

In his defense.. there's a lot of buzz about ATI+nV for Physx. It's a cool setup and we're not unhappy about it. Be it a hack or nV supported, GPU Tesselation with nV products should be equally exciting right?

At present I have a 5870 and may grab a 250 just to check it out. I'd run a hybrid for a cool tesslation game too..
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

I don't see how the fact that Nvidia has a patent for tessellation is interesting. Lots of tech companies have lots of patents. Tessellation is required for DX11, right? So no doubt AMD and Nvidia will include tesselation in their DX11 GPU's if they want to be complient. AMD and Nvidia may have patents regarding rops, shaders, etc. yet you aren't starting threads about those patents. Everyone here knows very well what you were trying to do...
 

SSChevy2001

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was look for something to post against ATi. Especially since Fermi isn't out yet, and I can't use Tesselation.

Why don't people love Nvidia like I do? Come on guys don't go red.... sigh. :(
Fixed
 

lavaheadache

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Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

Then the AMDZone comes out with their usual thread crapping and personal attacks.... sigh.

You know what's scary, I'm pretty sure you posted this with a straight face.

He really thinks that we don't see his true intentions. Thats just it.... Recently I Decided I was going to be proactive and start a petition about him. Trouble is that I have found that there is very little proof I can provide that is can icconclusive that he is just here to start trouble.

He doesn't attack anybody or call people names. Nope all he does is come in and drop a turd like this thread and spouts off about marketshare and phsyx and 3d vision crap. As if he even has 3d glasses and 120 hz monitor. Then cries wolf when people call him out on his extremely one sided negative POV on AMD/Ati, when clearly they have a pretty spectacular line up of cards on the table.

Wreckage, you should try making some friends around here cause pretty soon you're gonna have a whole legion of thread crappers in your threads regardless of them being valid or not because you are a blatant troll .

I hereby am starting the "Unofficial Alliance of AT Members Against FUD". You sir are our first on our most wanted.


UAAMAF for life Brotha!!
 

evolucion8

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Wreckage holds a patent on posting pointless troll threads.

LOLL

Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was look for something to post against ATi. Especially since Fermi isn't out yet, and I can't use Tesselation.

Why don't people love Nvidia like I do? Come on guys don't go red.... sigh. :(
Fixed

ROFL, quite original both of those posts, I wonder why he fails to see that nobody cares the FUD that he spread and his meaningless threads, continuous trolling, doesn't he feels a bit shy about being ridiculized so often? :confused:
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

Then the AMDZone comes out with their usual thread crapping and personal attacks.... sigh.



Originally posted by: Compddd
Why hasn't everything NVIDIA been banned yet? We need another AMDZone

Seems that way at least. :thumbsdown:

dude why are you so insane? Nobody should care as much as you do. Really. the most fanatic sports team fan is nothing compared to you. Seek help.
 

Idontcare

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Never before have I seen a thread full of so many posters doing exactly what it is they claim to loathe...the hypocrisy is rich, and deep, in here. :roll:
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: thilanliyan
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Did you work for ATI before getting fired. I mean I've never seen someone hate ATI as much as you!

Hector Ruiz ran over his cat maybe?

hector ran over a lot of cats in his day...hatred for him often equates to love of amd.


Originally posted by: Idontcare
Never before have I seen a thread full of so many posters doing exactly what it is they claim to loathe...the hypocrisy is rich, and deep, in here. :roll:

wreckage is keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. I think that he IS rollo. Look at the people whom he has pissed off. Is everybody a "zoner" just because they dislike his one-sided constant thread crapping? I personally have 4 nvidia cards and zero ati cards, yet I can admit that ati is a much better solution at most price points these days and am offended at the shit that wreckage constants shovels on us. Contrast that with keysplayr, who has every reason to be biased, yet doesn't constantly spew shit on pro-amd threads. In fact, if he didn't have a big focus group crosshair on him nobody would have a problem with him. Don't believe me? Look back a few years before he joined the focus group. Wreckage is an obvious troll in every message that he posts other than clearly pro-nvidia ones.

By the way, he is very careful about not violating TOS. I've tried to report him several times, but when you go back and look at one post or one thread here or there it all seems very innocent. It is his consistent pattern of thread-crapping and trolling that warrants a ban, not what he posted in this thread or the one before it.

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: thilanliyan
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Did you work for ATI before getting fired. I mean I've never seen someone hate ATI as much as you!

Hector Ruiz ran over his cat maybe?

hector ran over a lot of cats in his day...hatred for him often equates to love of amd.


Originally posted by: Idontcare
Never before have I seen a thread full of so many posters doing exactly what it is they claim to loathe...the hypocrisy is rich, and deep, in here. :roll:

wreckage is keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. I think that he IS rollo. Look at the people whom he has pissed off. Is everybody a "zoner" just because they dislike his one-sided constant thread crapping? I personally have 4 nvidia cards and zero ati cards, yet I can admit that ati is a much better solution at most price points these days and am offended at the shit that wreckage constants shovels on us. Contrast that with keysplayr, who has every reason to be biased, yet doesn't constantly spew shit on pro-amd threads. In fact, if he didn't have a big focus group crosshair on him nobody would have a problem with him. Don't believe me? Look back a few years before he joined the focus group. Wreckage is an obvious troll in every message that he posts other than clearly pro-nvidia ones.

By the way, he is very careful about not violating TOS. I've tried to report him several times, but when you go back and look at one post or one thread here or there it all seems very innocent. It is his consistent pattern of thread-crapping and trolling that warrants a ban, not what he posted in this thread or the one before it.

Ok guys. Don't you think this is quite enough? If nobody had bothered posting at all in this thread, it would have been off the first page by now and forgotten. Please don't continue to lower yourself to the standards that you would not want to be aimed at you. Ignore Wreckage if the first thought in your mind is to personally attack him. Just let it go. This thread has turned into a cesspool and it has less to do with what Wreckage posted, and more of a PERSONAL nature..

Can we please stop this and just ignore? I ask as a member here. If this continues any further, I have no choice but to complain to the moderators. This cannot continue, is rude, and totally loathesome. No matter what you think of Wreckage, you should have just addressed the data in his original post and left it at that. Done.

Keys.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: lavaheadache
Originally posted by: RiDE
Originally posted by: Wreckage
All I did was post something interesting about video cards. Especially with all the talk about tesselation lately. Seems very relevant. I did not drag the other side into it or make a big deal.

Then the AMDZone comes out with their usual thread crapping and personal attacks.... sigh.

You know what's scary, I'm pretty sure you posted this with a straight face.

He really thinks that we don't see his true intentions. Thats just it.... Recently I Decided I was going to be proactive and start a petition about him. Trouble is that I have found that there is very little proof I can provide that is can icconclusive that he is just here to start trouble.

He doesn't attack anybody or call people names. Nope all he does is come in and drop a turd like this thread and spouts off about marketshare and phsyx and 3d vision crap. As if he even has 3d glasses and 120 hz monitor. Then cries wolf when people call him out on his extremely one sided negative POV on AMD/Ati, when clearly they have a pretty spectacular line up of cards on the table.

Wreckage, you should try making some friends around here cause pretty soon you're gonna have a whole legion of thread crappers in your threads regardless of them being valid or not because you are a blatant troll .

I hereby am starting the "Unofficial Alliance of AT Members Against FUD". You sir are our first on our most wanted.


UAAMAF for life Brotha!!

Just to add my $0.02, the op and a handful of other posters (like Rollo) were/are a big reason why I stopped coming to AT video forums awhile ago. I was posting that Rollo was probably on the nV payroll years before the truth came out, because it was painfully obvious since every thread they popped into magically morphed into an ATI/nV debate. It was like his life's goal was to post positive spin on Nvidia and negative spin on ATI, and it was incredibly tiring.

Nothing positive about Nvidia or ATI can be posted here anymore without someing coming in and starting a flame-fest. The same can be said for debate - if someone were to create a thread questioning the value of DX 10/10.1/11 or CUDA, it would instantly become a call to arms of alliances.

I'm glad to see that others are starting to get frustrated with these same old games over and over again. Frankly, Nvidia's viral marketing is despicable...
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: thilanliyan
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Did you work for ATI before getting fired. I mean I've never seen someone hate ATI as much as you!

Hector Ruiz ran over his cat maybe?

hector ran over a lot of cats in his day...hatred for him often equates to love of amd.


Originally posted by: Idontcare
Never before have I seen a thread full of so many posters doing exactly what it is they claim to loathe...the hypocrisy is rich, and deep, in here. :roll:

wreckage is keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. I think that he IS rollo. Look at the people whom he has pissed off. Is everybody a "zoner" just because they dislike his one-sided constant thread crapping? I personally have 4 nvidia cards and zero ati cards, yet I can admit that ati is a much better solution at most price points these days and am offended at the shit that wreckage constants shovels on us. Contrast that with keysplayr, who has every reason to be biased, yet doesn't constantly spew shit on pro-amd threads. In fact, if he didn't have a big focus group crosshair on him nobody would have a problem with him. Don't believe me? Look back a few years before he joined the focus group. Wreckage is an obvious troll in every message that he posts other than clearly pro-nvidia ones.

By the way, he is very careful about not violating TOS. I've tried to report him several times, but when you go back and look at one post or one thread here or there it all seems very innocent. It is his consistent pattern of thread-crapping and trolling that warrants a ban, not what he posted in this thread or the one before it.

Ok guys. Don't you think this is quite enough? If nobody had bothered posting at all in this thread, it would have been off the first page by now and forgotten. Please don't continue to lower yourself to the standards that you would not want to be aimed at you. Ignore Wreckage if the first thought in your mind is to personally attack him. Just let it go. This thread has turned into a cesspool and it has less to do with what Wreckage posted, and more of a PERSONAL nature..

Can we please stop this and just ignore? I ask as a member here. If this continues any further, I have no choice but to complain to the moderators. This cannot continue, is rude, and totally loathesome. No matter what you think of Wreckage, you should have just addressed the data in his original post and left it at that. Done.

Keys.

What WAS the data in his post?
He posted a patent application and summarised it as being something ATI had actually implemented 2 years prior to the patent application, and implied it might in some way impact DX11.
His post made no sense, at best it was trying to spread FUD, and at worst it was just random pointless garbage not even worth of discussion.

He says "what is currently being done with DX11".
DX11 is already out, there are (tech) demos of tessellation which already work on non-NV DX11 hardware.
It has no relevance to DX11 or to anything.
If Wreckage makes a post with content that is meaningful and worthy of discussion, people might discuss it rather than discussing him and his postings.
 

Keysplayr

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Jan 16, 2003
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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Keysplayr
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: thilanliyan
Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Did you work for ATI before getting fired. I mean I've never seen someone hate ATI as much as you!

Hector Ruiz ran over his cat maybe?

hector ran over a lot of cats in his day...hatred for him often equates to love of amd.


Originally posted by: Idontcare
Never before have I seen a thread full of so many posters doing exactly what it is they claim to loathe...the hypocrisy is rich, and deep, in here. :roll:

wreckage is keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. I think that he IS rollo. Look at the people whom he has pissed off. Is everybody a "zoner" just because they dislike his one-sided constant thread crapping? I personally have 4 nvidia cards and zero ati cards, yet I can admit that ati is a much better solution at most price points these days and am offended at the shit that wreckage constants shovels on us. Contrast that with keysplayr, who has every reason to be biased, yet doesn't constantly spew shit on pro-amd threads. In fact, if he didn't have a big focus group crosshair on him nobody would have a problem with him. Don't believe me? Look back a few years before he joined the focus group. Wreckage is an obvious troll in every message that he posts other than clearly pro-nvidia ones.

By the way, he is very careful about not violating TOS. I've tried to report him several times, but when you go back and look at one post or one thread here or there it all seems very innocent. It is his consistent pattern of thread-crapping and trolling that warrants a ban, not what he posted in this thread or the one before it.

Ok guys. Don't you think this is quite enough? If nobody had bothered posting at all in this thread, it would have been off the first page by now and forgotten. Please don't continue to lower yourself to the standards that you would not want to be aimed at you. Ignore Wreckage if the first thought in your mind is to personally attack him. Just let it go. This thread has turned into a cesspool and it has less to do with what Wreckage posted, and more of a PERSONAL nature..

Can we please stop this and just ignore? I ask as a member here. If this continues any further, I have no choice but to complain to the moderators. This cannot continue, is rude, and totally loathesome. No matter what you think of Wreckage, you should have just addressed the data in his original post and left it at that. Done.

Keys.

What WAS the data in his post?
He posted a patent application and summarised it as being something ATI had actually implemented 2 years prior to the patent application, and implied it might in some way impact DX11.
His post made no sense, at best it was trying to spread FUD, and at worst it was just random pointless garbage not even worth of discussion.

He says "what is currently being done with DX11".
DX11 is already out, there are (tech) demos of tessellation which already work on non-NV DX11 hardware.
It has no relevance to DX11 or to anything.
If Wreckage makes a post with content that is meaningful and worthy of discussion, people might discuss it rather than discussing him and his postings.

Why would you ask what the data was, when you just explained it to me? If his post made no sense, say it, and explain why. What's not to understand? Don't go off on a 30 post attack tangent (includes all who joined in the fray), becuase it's "fun". That's BS. Do you get me now? There really is no defending what's being done here. It's beyond teh suk.