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nVidia: Good Drivers finally

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LeeTJ

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Originally posted by: Pete
Originally posted by: nemesismk2
If Futuremark had optimised their software maybe Nvidia wouldn't have to find ways to optimise their drivers to improve performance. Let's be honest here Futuremark aren't exactly well known for their highly optimised code, 3dmark03 is badly written, inefficent and is nothing more than a collection of poorly designed benchmarks with no real value.
Proof, please.

actually, proof is IRRELEVANT, even IF all that he says about 3dmark is TRUE, it's true for ALL Video cards whether they be ATI, NVidia, Matrox or whoever.

the fact that NVidia finds it necessary to manipulate their drivers in order to get better appearing benchmark scores vs letting it be tested fairly shows their lack of confidence in their own technology.
 

Cat

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The developer mode is no longer a true benchmark, as it is not the same runthrough each time. The same things appear (models, shaders applied to models, sounds) but the video card is not _rendering_ the exact same scene each time. If you can suggest to me what was done to improve that specific test in a manner that wasn't prohibitively expensive to develop, I'm all ears. I don't doubt that some lameness is occuring in other tests, but I do in this one.
 

Rogodin2

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I'd rather buy a card from a company that admitted they ceated by 2% than a company that lies and creates driver work arounds to keep their scores up by cheating %20).

The thief that admits guilt has the benevolence of god, the thief that won't admit he stole will burn in the VGA nether world and hence, I'm a follower of the immutable light.

Plus

nvidia cards suck ;) to put it lucidly

rogo
 

Cat

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Then you have ATi refusing to create driver workarounds for Half-Life's black screen bug :)
 

Rogodin2

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That's because they try only to sell video cards to the elite of the gamer demographic and not the SHEEP of the pixel world.

Plus-from what I've read people that have installed the 3.5s freshly haven't had the cs problem.

rogo
 

Cat

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Originally posted by: Rogodin2
That's because they try only to sell video cards to the elite of the gamer demographic and not the SHEEP of the pixel world.

rogo

You're a total fool if you believe that. Maybe you were being sarcastic.
 

Pete

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LeeTJ, it was basically a rhetorical question considering to whom it was proposed. ;) And look, it was ignored, as I figured it would be.
 

BFG10K

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If the drivers are genuine then why bother implementing encryption to stop the anti-cheat detectors from working? Surely if they're good then one would assume that nVidia has nothing to hide?

More likely the drivers simply detect when you go off the rails and turn off the clip planes.