Nvidia fan regrets ATI purchase

[SlowSpyder]

Well it's hard to tell since this thread went to shit since page 6 but if you go back a little ways and actually read all of my posts, as opposed to to just the last two, you will see that I have indeed been troubleshooting and using people's suggestions to try to solve my problems. The reason why I did not have immediate feedback is because my computer is at home and I am at work.

Anyways I may have fixed a few of the issues I was having. I'm not sure which fix did it, but I guess it was some combination of uninstalling/reinstalling drivers 10 times over, uninstalling all c++ packages, using driver sweeper, and making several registry changes and adding some manual fixes in safe mode. The flickering boxes are gone, as well as the 2d driver crashes. I still have the monitor-won't-standby problem. I haven't had a chance to test a 3d game yet to see if if the fps jitter is gone but I think it may be based on using OCCT. I'll have more time to test everything tonight.

So after a little work you were able to fix the majority of your issues? Did you uninstall CCC, or do you still have it? Based on what you said above I don't think it was ever your problem. It's beginning to sound more like an issue with a piece of software or a conflict of some kind that hopefully is resolved after the reinstalls.

When I change cards I generally remove the old drivers, then driver sweep, then install the new drivers for the new hardware. I'm sure it's not at thorough as some, but it seems to work fine. I also generlly reinstall Windows every ~18 months or so, though my current Vista 64 build is going strong for well over a year now, running like the first day I installed it.

I think your issue may very well have been software related (though when I hear someone metion artifacting I generally think hardware first). All you had to do was a little work and troubleshooting on your end before coming here and declaring AMD/ATi drivers as junk... sometimes that's something you have to do when you change vendors, it comes with the territory of PC gaming/hardware enthusiast.

Anyway, I'm glad you got it working hopefully. Once you have everything under control with the software bugs, seeing as you are water cooling I'd push some voltage and make that GPU really work. 1GHz+ should be easy.

 

[Jayzbent]

I feel your pain unfortunately I bought a XFX5870 in Oct. and have been having issues with it for awhile. I sent it back and they say nothing was wrong with the card but they replaced it anyway? Sounds funny but I will take the new one. I keep having all sorts of issues ranging from GSOD, atikmpag.exe bsod etc. I have tried everything to figure it out but im outa ideas. Maybe its because I run a EVGA780I board I just think I have about had it. If the new card comes back and does it again I think I will just sell it and use my 9800GTX till a rev of Fermi is out skip it.

 

[nyker96]

I think OP needs to checkup on system drivers etc. I personally has purchased 7-8 NV cards and only one ATI (hd4850), truthfully never had any major driver issues with either brand so I wouldn't hesitate buying ATI or NV, just get the best card for the money is all.

also on Cat 10.4 just updated to it since 9,8 I haven't even noticed any glitch with the catalyst driver, running on win 7 64bit.

 

[spittledip]

You're right, Ati drivers are a pile of crap.

I have owned several different ATI cards on PCI, AGP and PCI express platforms, and have never ever ever had any trouble with the drivers. Ever. I have never had trouble with Nvidia drivers either. I don't know what people are doing to have so much trouble with drivers.

 

[Grooveriding]

One issue that really burnt me out with my 285s was that nvidia cards don't downclock in 2D mode with two monitors hooked up. This issue has been the case for over a year, still not fixed.

ATI had something similar with the 5870s and multi-monitors where one screen would flicker in 2D mode from the cards' memory being downclocked too low. It was fixed a couple driver releases ago.

Go figure.

 

[ronnn]

Come on Mods close this thread. We can go elsewhere to play fan games.

 

[lurk3r]

Uninstall CCC and see if it clears up.

I should just put that in my sig lol

Yep, I'm amazed that the solution has not changed in the last 8 or so years of Ati drivers, remove the CCC, I have never had it actually work.

 

[Mem]

Yep, I'm amazed that the solution has not changed in the last 8 or so years of Ati drivers, remove the CCC, I have never had it actually work.

I have installed the full package (CCC with drivers etc..) every month since 8.4s years ago ,always installs fine,its not rocket science so don't know why some people get issues even with CCC,what am I doing right?

 

[lurk3r]

I have installed the full package (CCC with drivers etc..) every month since 8.4s years ago ,always installs fine,its not rocket science so don't know why some people get issues even with CCC,what am I doing right?

I really wish someone could tell me, I didn't spend $289 on the card because I wanted to bitch, (but I must admit I was furious to be in exactly the same place I was when I last used an ati card) I expected it to work. I fresh installed windows 7 with only the Ati card in, downloaded the latest drivers, and had nothing but trouble (see my old thread with the 10.3 drivers), after much trial and error, I am semi-stable on 10.2, but every game I play has noticeable stutters in both windowed mode and full screen.

 

[shangshang]

Time to close this ranting thread!!!

 

[yh125d]

I really wish someone could tell me, I didn't spend $289 on the card because I wanted to bitch, (but I must admit I was furious to be in exactly the same place I was when I last used an ati card) I expected it to work. I fresh installed windows 7 with only the Ati card in, downloaded the latest drivers, and had nothing but trouble (see my old thread with the 10.3 drivers), after much trial and error, I am semi-stable on 10.2, but every game I play has noticeable stutters in both windowed mode and full screen.

Windowed mode hasn't given me problems in WoW/HL/HL2

 

[Genx87]

I have installed the full package (CCC with drivers etc..) every month since 8.4s years ago ,always installs fine,its not rocket science so don't know why some people get issues even with CCC,what am I doing right?

Please let me know. Honestly.....................

 

[GaiaHunter]

Please let me know. Honestly.....................

I don't use ATI drivers for so long since the 4850 was my first ATI card since the 9500/9700 days, but been using the CCC since then, always install the new monthly drivers on top of the old ones and go. I think most of the time it doesn't even ask me to restart.

Sincerely when people start to have problems with their drivers a fresh install of windows should be a top priority - and I don't understand what is the big deal of doing so. Don't people partition their drives/have multiple drives/backup most relevant information?

 

[Liet]

I'm getting nervous about my upcoming 5870 order now.

 

[Dark Shroud]

I've been using ATI cards since the Rage Pro 2. I've never had a problem with drivers.

 

[dust]

It's all about the law of attraction, if you want it to work you have to really want it to work . Well it's either that or an id ten t error.

 

[ronnn]

I'm getting nervous about my upcoming 5870 order now.

Of course, is why (f)ear (u)ncertainty (d)oubt exists. Is a valid marketing strategy.

 

[hawtdawg]

I have owned several different ATI cards on PCI, AGP and PCI express platforms, and have never ever ever had any trouble with the drivers. Ever. I have never had trouble with Nvidia drivers either. I don't know what people are doing to have so much trouble with drivers.

Same here. I've owned 20+ graphics cards or so in my time and the last time i remember there being any serious driver problems from Nvidia or ATI was pre 9700. Since then both companies have had comparable drivers. Both have had their share of issues here and there, and both have been a complete pain to install on laptop GPU's, but as far as actual driver stability, I can't remember any major issues from either company in a long long time, even when using ATI GPU's on Nvidia chipsets.