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Nvidia drops out of chipset business

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OCGuy

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Someone posts an article disputing the OP, but the same couple people who bash nV in every thread continue to post like it isnt there....

When did this forum turn into AMDzonelite?
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: OCguy
This puts the AMD fans in a pickle. They are defending the very company that may put AMD out of business (being taken over is much more likely) just to put down nV?

The graphics division, even if it starts making money, will not keep that company afloat. They need to start making some CPUs that people actually want to buy, or who knows what they will be called 3 years from now? IBM?
They (AMD) actually do make cpu's people want to buy. The kinda people who aren't interested in shelling out $200 on a cpu. In particular, the PhenomII X3 720 and the new cheap quad-core AthlonII's.

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
 

Barfo

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Originally posted by: OCguy
This puts the AMD fans in a pickle. They are defending the very company that may put AMD out of business (being taken over is much more likely) just to put down nV?
It's more that they're rejoicing that NV just got a taste of it's own medicine.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: munky

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
Isn't Intel working on this right now? They may never have something to compete in the high-end, but as well all know, the "high-end" is a niche.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: munky

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
Isn't Intel working on this right now? They may never have something to compete in the high-end, but as well all know, the "high-end" is a niche.
They're working on it just like Nvidia was "working" on the FX-series while the r300 was sweeping the video card market. Until Intel has a competitive product out the gate, it's not gonna do them or the consumers any good.
 

Kuzi

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I guess Nvidia are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Nvidia gave Intel a few headaches before eventually licensing SLI to them, so Intel may do the same here.
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Someone posts an article disputing the OP, but the same couple people who bash nV in every thread continue to post like it isnt there....
That's because you didn't read it through carefully enough. It was written in typical "marketese" in an attempt to lessen its impact.

Yes, Nvidia will continue to produce chipsets for those platforms it currently has a license to do so on. But it cannot market any for Intel Core i3/i5/i7 series processors, Pineview Atom processors and so on as mentioned in the article.

Basically, unless they win their day in court, Nvidia's chipset sales days are numbered.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: OCguy
This puts the AMD fans in a pickle. They are defending the very company that may put AMD out of business (being taken over is much more likely) just to put down nV?

The graphics division, even if it starts making money, will not keep that company afloat. They need to start making some CPUs that people actually want to buy, or who knows what they will be called 3 years from now? IBM?
They (AMD) actually do make cpu's people want to buy. The kinda people who aren't interested in shelling out $200 on a cpu. In particular, the PhenomII X3 720 and the new cheap quad-core AthlonII's.

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
I can pick up an E series Core 2 Duo for sub 200 that blows the doors off most anything AMD has right now. AMDs market has shrunk big time, especially among gamers.

They simply havent brought anything compelling to the table in nearly half a decade.

Intel doesnt need anything to compete with AMD on the graphics side of things. You ever look at the volume of low end garbage that ships with an Intel integrated chipset? There is a reason why Intel has nearly 70% of the overall graphics market. People dont need discrete graphics to cruise the internet and write a resume.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: munky

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
Isn't Intel working on this right now? They may never have something to compete in the high-end, but as well all know, the "high-end" is a niche.
They're working on it just like Nvidia was "working" on the FX-series while the r300 was sweeping the video card market. Until Intel has a competitive product out the gate, it's not gonna do them or the consumers any good.
Yes the glory days of the r300 nearly 8 years ago. If only Nvidia could stumble more than once a decade for ATI. Maybe ATI could do better than losing 2:1 against Nvidia on Steam.
 

Wreckage

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ATI fans will destroy their own company if it will hurt NVIDIA even a little. Havok is another prime example of this.

Siding with Intel against NVIDIA is like a mouse siding with a cat against a chipmunk.

At least the chipmunk knows to keep a distance.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: nemesismk2
This is very bad news. I loved my Nforce4, Nforce3 and Nforce2 motherboards :(
Competition is always good in the market. But even I have to admit. Once I moved to the core 2 duo I havent had an Nvidia chipset in a single computer I have built. With the direction of bringing more and more on the cpu die. There is less and less of a compelling reason to purchase based on chipset in my eyes.

 

ArchAngel777

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This is not good. We need nVidia to make chipsets. They tend to do a good job with them overall. The new ION platform is awesome and AMD doesn't really have a response yet. Congo won't be able to compete exept possibly on the CPU side of things. The 9400M IS more powerful than the HD3200. So, ION's existing GPU is stronger and has better power management features.

AMD is in a position to dominate the low-end netbook and notebook market if they can just understand that power consumption is important. So far everything they release has horrible battery life.
 

Wreckage

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Larrabee will come out and crossfire will suddenly stop working on Intel chipsets.....
 

imported_Shaq

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And it makes Nvidia's recent actions pale in comparison to being locked out. Hopefully Tesla,Ion and PhysX will more than make up for this in the meantime.
 

nOOky

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Looks like the only way out of this is an alliance between nvidia and ATI/AMD :p
 

Phynaz

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: dguy6789
*Plays Nvidia a sad song on the world's smallest violin*
You have to love the ATI fan hypocrisy. When AMD goes bankrupt you guys will have to find something new to fill that void in your life.

Intel is merely shoring up their monopoly. A monopoly that will be built on top of AMD's bones.
And yet Nvidia is also dropping their AMD chipset business.
 

waffleironhead

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Larrabee will come out and crossfire will suddenly stop working on Intel chipsets.....
Does intel have to pay a license fee or purchase something to enable crossfire on their systems?
 

Kuzi

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Originally posted by: Schmide
I vote for giving nVidia an x86 license.
It wouldn't be very helpful at this time, if Nvidia wanted an x86 license they should have tried to get it a long time ago (maybe they did try).

To design a performance x86 CPU from scratch would take them at least 3 or 4 years, and it is highly unlikely it can compete with Intel and AMD stuff when it's released.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: OCguy
This puts the AMD fans in a pickle. They are defending the very company that may put AMD out of business (being taken over is much more likely) just to put down nV?

The graphics division, even if it starts making money, will not keep that company afloat. They need to start making some CPUs that people actually want to buy, or who knows what they will be called 3 years from now? IBM?
They (AMD) actually do make cpu's people want to buy. The kinda people who aren't interested in shelling out $200 on a cpu. In particular, the PhenomII X3 720 and the new cheap quad-core AthlonII's.

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
I can pick up an E series Core 2 Duo for sub 200 that blows the doors off most anything AMD has right now. AMDs market has shrunk big time, especially among gamers.

They simply havent brought anything compelling to the table in nearly half a decade.

Intel doesnt need anything to compete with AMD on the graphics side of things. You ever look at the volume of low end garbage that ships with an Intel integrated chipset? There is a reason why Intel has nearly 70% of the overall graphics market. People dont need discrete graphics to cruise the internet and write a resume.
LMAO, maybe in single-threaded apps. You're not only pitting a dual-core against an X3 or an X4, but you're also talking about a dead end platform. Nobody in their right mind would build a brand new system around the lga775 platform these days.

And if Intel doesn't need to compete with AMD in graphics, then maybe someone outta inform them that Larrabee is a complete waste of resources, and they should abandon it asap.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: munky
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: munky

Also, Intel has absolutely nothing to compete with AMD in the graphics market. Even AMD's integrated graphics trounces Intel's.
Isn't Intel working on this right now? They may never have something to compete in the high-end, but as well all know, the "high-end" is a niche.
They're working on it just like Nvidia was "working" on the FX-series while the r300 was sweeping the video card market. Until Intel has a competitive product out the gate, it's not gonna do them or the consumers any good.
Yes the glory days of the r300 nearly 8 years ago. If only Nvidia could stumble more than once a decade for ATI. Maybe ATI could do better than losing 2:1 against Nvidia on Steam.
Why, because the Steam survey directly generates profit for AMD or Nvidia? Steam matters about as much as 3dmock... As it stands right now, Nvidia better deliver with the g300, otherwise they're due for another FX-fiasco rerun.
 

Itchrelief

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Hey, if the NV apologists are going to get their panties in a snit and complain about how Intel is going to kill off everyone else, at least be consistent and feign some outrage when NV tries to do the same thing. Something about capitalism and free markets and all that. Antitrust legislation is evil. Blah blah.

edit: There are a few posters who call a spade a spade no matter who's doing it, but they're relatively rare.
 

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