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nVidia drivers FAIL each and every WHQL test

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Bar81

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Well, quite the beaming accomplishment from nVidia. Apparently, they were singlehandidly able to fail EACH of the FOURTEEN WHQL tests with their latest 61.77 public driver. Their beta newer drivers don't seem to be doing all that much better, with only *partial* WHQL support. Kudos nVidia on some high quality driver support.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18730
 
Wow, I never would have known that ... you know, nVidia has "WHQL Certified" on the driver download page.

Oh, wait. They don't. :roll:

Go post this at Rage3D - you'll get the "OMGZ TEH NVIDEA IS CHEAT0RZ" responses you're trolling for there.

- M4H
 
Though it's funny, IMO WHQL means nothing, to others it may though.
If it works with my machine, it works with my machine, that's all I care about.
If it's got WHQL on it, that's a nice present for it, but I don't care too much.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Wow, I never would have known that ... you know, nVidia has "WHQL Certified" on the driver download page.

Oh, wait. They don't. :roll:

Go post this at Rage3D - you'll get the "OMGZ TEH NVIDEA IS CHEAT0RZ" responses you're trolling for there.

- M4H
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How about you stfu considering your troll response.

Considering that nVidia put out that FUD document claiming ATI drivers were garbage because after 4.8 they wouldn't have WHQL support (surprise, they do) this is quite the news item.
 
Who really cares? I mean the littlest things can throw that off. Like having features that are additional to the dx9c spec (like 2.0b) enabled can make it fail the tests. Whose to say that these things are bad? I mean the cards seem to work better then ever and nobody has complained much. Also this is w/ the 5950 card and not the 6800 cards. Who knows, who cares.
 
I use the 66.xx series, why does this mean anything?


BTW: arent you the same troll who screamed and cried that the 6800gt didnt support 1600x1200? Then you found out it did and you called everyone who disagreed w/ you a moron or troll?
 
Originally posted by: Marsumane
Also this is w/ the 5950 card and not the 6800 cards.
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Yeah, this driver set has SM3.0 it might be that the 5950 doesn't deal well with it for any number of reasons. I haven't seen a mass of "OMG MY 5950 CRASHES EVERYTHING" threads yet though, so I doubt it's as bad as you'd like to make it look, bar.
 
Nvidia releases beta drivers therefore they aren't going to submit them for WHQL certification until the final release. That is why the 61.76's are WHQL, the 61.77's are not because it is a released beta so that the Geforce 6 users can have support for their shiny new hardware.

Also WHQL means nothing.... all it does is put on it that microsoft is happy, they get a pat on the back. Woohoo.

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Rage187
I use the 66.xx series, why does this mean anything?
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Because they set themselves up for it 😉 nV talked trash about ATi drivers and WHQL, now they are going to get a well deserved bashing for having done so, if this "snitch" proves reliable as a source, and nV indeed can't seem to turn out drivers that are capaable of passing the cert.
 
Originally posted by: Bar81
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Wow, I never would have known that ... you know, nVidia has "WHQL Certified" on the driver download page.

Oh, wait. They don't. :roll:

Go post this at Rage3D - you'll get the "OMGZ TEH NVIDEA IS CHEAT0RZ" responses you're trolling for there.

- M4H
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How about you stfu considering your troll response.
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ok, that seriously made me crack up, as rude as that was.
:laugh:

i don't care if people don't think this is a big deal. i appreciate the post because the article is kind of funny.
i wouldn't think less of the quality of the drivers, but I'd think that nvidia would have us think less of WHQL certification since they can't get it. do they want it? well, they probably won't admit it until they get it.
 
Interesting. I guess we'll hear lots more about this as individual frames are scrutinized thru-out the intranet. Maybe nVidia and ATi should call a truce on all this driver "tweaking", get together in a press conference live on the net and openly state the fact that they both "optomize" and tell us all to just STFU!
 
Originally posted by: Killrose
Interesting. I guess we'll hear lots more about this as individual frames are scrutinized thru-out the intranet. Maybe nVidia and ATi should call a truce on all this driver "tweaking", get together in a press conference live on the net and openly state the fact that they both "optomize" and tell us all to just STFU!
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Tha would violate the "Any publicity is good publicity" rule of marketing 😉
 
Originally posted by: Childs
Which document is this? A press release?
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Nah! just a "snitch" 😉 is the source for this so far, and the whole new line of products isn't even part of the "scandal" yet.

 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Killrose
Interesting. I guess we'll hear lots more about this as individual frames are scrutinized thru-out the intranet. Maybe nVidia and ATi should call a truce on all this driver "tweaking", get together in a press conference live on the net and openly state the fact that they both "optomize" and tell us all to just STFU!
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Tha would violate the "Any publicity is good publicity" rule of marketing 😉
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Ok then, howabout they just hug one another after the "optomize" part? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Childs
Which document is this? A press release?
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Nah! just a "snitch" 😉 is the source for this so far, and the whole new line of products isn't even part of the "scandal" yet.
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So internally, they say ATI won't pass WHQL cert and it does? How is this news? Especially coming from the Inq.

Internally, my company says a lot of things. We laugh at our competitors products and talk about their ultimate demise, but its hardly worth getting all worked up over. Heck, we even had 50 ft banners making fun of our competition displayed in our lobby. *shrugs*
 
The difference being that this document was "leaked" to everyone. It was much more than simply an internal document.
 
I'm not seeing a problem here. They're still working on getting the performance out of the 6x00 line before submitting Microsoft-compliant drivers for WHQL authorization, which is perfectly fine. The 61.77s work just fine with my 6800GT without any stability issues or glitches, so not having WHQL means a fat load of nothing to me. I won't upgrade again until their next public driver release though, so I know I'm getting quality-tested (if not WHQL) drivers.

And as for nVidia talking smack about ATI's drivers, so does 98% of the internet. ATI's drivers are notoriously terrible, so why should nVidia stating a known fact be cause to shout that nVidia sucks, is cheating, and is a bunch of lying Satanists who sacrifice sheep to the altar of Bill Gates? [/going too far on ridiculing ATI fanboys] Just because ATI managed to squeak through the WHQL testing while all of nVidia's compatibility upgrades in their 6x.xx line of drivers don't doesn't say much, considering that nVidia has to pass WHQL testing on an entirely new core, as well as their older cores; how many cores does ATI have? Two distinct cores, with the rest being derivatives of those cores? Which is easier to ensure WHQL compatibility on?
 
Of the drivers I've used, 9 times out of 10 the betas are better than the WHQL sets. Fail away I say.


I can say from personal experience that beta or not, Nvidia drivers work with far less errors than ATi's for me, WHQL or no. To me, this is a non issue.
 
i'm not sure what all the fuss is about.. the only reason's any ati driver's pass whql is because of a "grandfather clause". that clause expires soon (like the next month), and none of the r420 & earlier drivers will pass whql. who cares as long as they work?
 
Originally posted by: Rent
I wonder how many people actually remember ATi before the Radeon series came out.

:roll:
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heh.. specifically the r3xx. the 8500, while better than their previous efforts certainly were not up to par with its nv counterpart, and the radeon32 ddr certainly was nothing to get excited about.

i still remember all the posts over at rage where they were hootin an hollerin about how great the earlier radeons were, lol.. only to be proven wrong. course all that was quietly swept under the rug when the 9700 came out and ati actually deserved to be praised for their hardware. 🙂
 
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