Nvidia and ATI really suck at naming things

[Biatche1488]

Nvidia and ati REALLY SSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKS at naming things (I agree)

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Kensai
I'm eager to find the naming scheme for the R520s.. Maybe the x900s?

there's a lot of talk about x900, but that woudl be incredibly stupid IMHO, worse than the Radeon 9000-9250.

ATI's namign system did make sense at first, with their 7xxx series supporting DX7, their 8xxx series supporting DX8, and their 9xxx series supporting DX9, however that changed with X series, seeing as how we're still on DX9.

Not all the 9xxx series supported DX9.... 9000, 9100, 9200, and 9250 don't support it.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: g33k

Originally posted by: batmanuel
It is still not as bad as the whole Pentium D and Celeron D mess. One D means "Dual core" the other doesn't really mean anything, since the D is really something like the fifth major revision of the Celeron line (if you count the move from the Slot 1 300A to the s370 models as a major revision, you can get six different versions).

The fact that no one can come to a consensus on what GT and XT means really annoys me though. High-end, mid-range, or low-end - it depends on if the card is ATi or nVidia. Its deeply annoying.

The "D" in Pentium D or Celeron D means desktop, not dualcore. Because Celerons are not dualcore, the fact that it is a Pentium means that it is dualcore.

No thanks for Trying. The Pentium D means dual core no if ands or buts. For the Celeron it Means the 4th major change. The didn't want to use the number 4 because people will relate it to the P 4 and might end up buying the chip.

 

[ZobarStyl]

Yeah, they can't use the internal name because often those revisions often are confusing and don't bely their speed (NV40 vs 41) and although ATi's naming system with the DX setup was useful at the time, skipping a whole 6 gen's worth of names kind of came back to bite them. They either need a new name like the Radeon 100 (start over with 3 digits) or a whole new lineup name, because they can maybe fit in the x900 but it's going to seriously throw off consumers. As for the suffix battles, I find that a little low-blow but it's a fierce market between these two.

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

No thanks for Trying. The Pentium D means dual core no if ands or buts. For the Celeron it Means the 4th major change. The didn't want to use the number 4 because people will relate it to the P 4 and might end up buying the chip.

My beef is that it isn't even the fourth version of the Celeron. I've read different accounts of how the generations fall, but at worst you have:

1. 266MHz Slot 1 cacheless
2. 300A Slot 1 w/128k cache
3. s370 128k 66MHz FSB
4. s370 256k 100MHz Tularons
5. s478 400Mhz FSB 128k
6. Celeron D 478/T 533MHz bus and 256k

You might be able to combine 1 and 2 into a single generation, as well as 3 and 4 since you are just tweaking FSB speed and cache between the revisions. If you are going to do that, then you might as well combine 5 and 6 into one generation as well, leaving you with three generations. I've even read some reviews that agree that the D on the celeron D doesn't even mean anything, so I'm not alone in my opinion.

It's all kind of academic, though.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Both products suck as much as each other in naming, or they can rock depending on your perspective.

I don't see why you're saying X900 is just an upgrade to X800.

You have to understand NV's naming is in the 1,000s, so 5000 => 6000 => 7000 series.

ATI has gone from the 1000s to the 100s, so X800 => X900, and their variants vary in the 10s .. X800 => X850 whereas NV uses 100s to vary its line....

Now, would you have preferred a TNT2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9? Wow I think that would be more retarded.

Riva TNT7 Ultra.. Pro... M64... LoL

 

[coomar]

i find it hilarious

gt is good for nvidia cards (6800gt) bad for ati cards (x800gt)

xt is good ati cards (x800xt) and bad for nvidia cards (they are naming something with xt)

its a continous game of one-up-man-ship

the dual of the marketing departments

 

[xTYBALTx]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
If you are going to do it by numbers you may as well have something straightforwards like Intel finally did.

Uhhh. . .

 

[RichUK]

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: hans030390
I dont see how this is so bad...a lot of people suck at naming things.

You're right. The bottom line is marketing and branding. Geforce and Radeon's are now brands that can sell by virtue of their names to Joe Public. Everyone on these forums knows the exact #'s that speicfic cards can push. Unfortantely Joe Public is where the lions share of sales come from.

 

[imported_g33k]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: g33k

Originally posted by: batmanuel
It is still not as bad as the whole Pentium D and Celeron D mess. One D means "Dual core" the other doesn't really mean anything, since the D is really something like the fifth major revision of the Celeron line (if you count the move from the Slot 1 300A to the s370 models as a major revision, you can get six different versions).

The fact that no one can come to a consensus on what GT and XT means really annoys me though. High-end, mid-range, or low-end - it depends on if the card is ATi or nVidia. Its deeply annoying.

The "D" in Pentium D or Celeron D means desktop, not dualcore. Because Celerons are not dualcore, the fact that it is a Pentium means that it is dualcore.

No thanks for Trying. The Pentium D means dual core no if ands or buts. For the Celeron it Means the 4th major change. The didn't want to use the number 4 because people will relate it to the P 4 and might end up buying the chip.

What? Well thats the most fvked up naming convention I've ever heard of. Were they purposely trying to confuse the consumer?

It would make more sence if the "D" meant desktop, just like the "M" means mobile in the Pentium M.

 

[CKTurbo128]

I too feel that ATi and nVIDIA suck at video card naming. The latest video card names are a joke. ATi announces a low end X800 as the Radeon X800 GT, while nVIDIA counter announces with a low end 6800, known as 6800XT. Gee, 6800XT & X800GT sure are creative.

Maybe they should just change their graphic cards names every generation and just use their graphic babes' names for the cards, since both companies seem to love flaunting their virtual models around.

Like:

nVIDIA Luna <INSERT WHATEVER NAME TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN MODELS> --> nVIDIA <"Next Generation Graphic Model">
ATi Ruby <INSERT WHATEVER NAME TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN MODELS> --> ATi <"Next Generation Video Model">

At least it'll be more creative than the ridiculous GeForce 8xxx LE XT GT GTX Ultra or Radeon XIIxxx SE GT Pro XT XT PE naming scheme that's currently going on.

 

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