nVidia and ATI just might be out of business by 2016

[tweakboy]

I have actually researched about Intel one day have a chip that does GPU and CPU. Then we won't need a GPU card. By the way this might happen in 2020 also,, But I know for fact through a source I have in silicon valley that Intel has many plans, and one day their chips would do 3D as well.
Ive read many different dates.. like

2016 what the thread title is. 2020 and even as early as 2014, but I doubt that one.

I would say nVidia and ATI might be in deep jeopardy when Intel learns how to do GPU as well. By this time we would not even use a PCIe slot for the video card, as CPU has the GPU and its faster then anything nvidia or ati have created.. anyhow that is when Im upgrading next,, CPU and GPU same chip. Until then CPU's will run 3dmark 3D tests @ 1fps lol

 

[Kenmitch]

I think the biggest problem for intel is the lack of the patents required. Kinda hard to get anywhere in the 3D arena without them. I think pretty much everything is already covered by a patent and it's kinda hard to advance without stepping on somebodies toes.

Of course intel has alot of money and when the time is right they could pretty much buy out a struggling nvidia or ati if needed.

 

[SunnyD]

I think the biggest problem for intel is the lack of the patents required. Kinda hard to get anywhere in the 3D arena without them. I think pretty much everything is already covered by a patent and it's kinda hard to advance without stepping on somebodies toes.

Of course intel has alot of money and when the time is right they could pretty much buy out a struggling nvidia or ati if needed.

Patents do expire. Given that a good portion of GPU patents have been in use for 10 years already, the bulk of them will be fair game in 2020.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Your correct that it will be all one chip . But ATI(AMD) is in the race as well as NV . This game has to play out . . Who knows a new tech could arise and knock all the old players out . Or as we past threw the dark rift which were nearing now (Nasa has confirmed). We may loose modern tech altogether as earth changes occur. The future may not be about tech . Just added the last part toshow that many things can and will happen .

 

[Nemesis 1]

I think the biggest problem for intel is the lack of the patents required. Kinda hard to get anywhere in the 3D arena without them. I think pretty much everything is already covered by a patent and it's kinda hard to advance without stepping on somebodies toes.

Of course intel has alot of money and when the time is right they could pretty much buy out a struggling nvidia or ati if needed.

Bad post . Intel has all the tech they need and access to others tech . NV isn't got anything that stops intel or amd or imagination tech The last 2 AMD /Imagination have agreements with Intel .

 

[Nemesis 1]

Intels sandy bridge is on 32nm . the gpu portion is huge comparred to cpu portion . See pics on internet

 

[Smartazz]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the GPU on the CPU chip be horribly limited by slower RAM as compared to GPU memory?

 

[Fox5]

I have actually researched about Intel one day have a chip that does GPU and CPU. Then we won't need a GPU card. By the way this might happen in 2020 also,, But I know for fact through a source I have in silicon valley that Intel has many plans, and one day their chips would do 3D as well.
Ive read many different dates.. like

2016 what the thread title is. 2020 and even as early as 2014, but I doubt that one.

I would say nVidia and ATI might be in deep jeopardy when Intel learns how to do GPU as well. By this time we would not even use a PCIe slot for the video card, as CPU has the GPU and its faster then anything nvidia or ati have created.. anyhow that is when Im upgrading next,, CPU and GPU same chip. Until then CPU's will run 3dmark 3D tests @ 1fps lol

You're being dumb, intel already has integrated graphics that do 3d and has for over a decade. You haven't 'needed' a 3d card in pretty much forever.
A discrete card will always offer better performance however. Someday integrated graphics might reach good enough, but ATI is already hitched with AMD so they're in that field too. And nvidia does the same with ARM processors now, so they might be able to build upon that.

 

[ThorofThunder]

I have actually researched about Intel one day have a chip that does GPU and CPU. Then we won't need a GPU card. By the way this might happen in 2020 also,, But I know for fact through a source I have in silicon valley that Intel has many plans, and one day their chips would do 3D as well.
Ive read many different dates.. like

2016 what the thread title is. 2020 and even as early as 2014, but I doubt that one.

I would say nVidia and ATI might be in deep jeopardy when Intel learns how to do GPU as well. By this time we would not even use a PCIe slot for the video card, as CPU has the GPU and its faster then anything nvidia or ati have created.. anyhow that is when Im upgrading next,, CPU and GPU same chip. Until then CPU's will run 3dmark 3D tests @ 1fps lol

They won't go out of business, period.

Worst possible case scenario for either company is that when this technology eventually tops the horizon they'll be bought up by the bigger processor-producing companies and tack on their names to the buyer's name. (AMD & ATi, for example)

Modern processors already have the capability to handle graphical processes.

However, there will always remain a market sizable enough to sustain at least two competing graphics-card-producing companies. Theoretically speaking, a CPU and a GPU from the same time period can perhaps be combined into a single unit, but as two separate units they will perform their respective jobs much more efficiently. That's just the way technology has developed thus far. And considering how the possibility of a second card responsible for graphical duties (PhysX cards) almost succeeded, the chances that the entire GPU market disappearing is slim to nil.

 

[Martimus]

I have already shown you where AMD is releasing the chip that you say intel is going to release in 2016 next year in a previous post. I am starting to wonder if you are spamming false things on purpose now, since you obviously already know about Llano and Sandy Bridge, since we have already told you about them the last time you brought this up.

EDIT: Here are some threads already in process about the new GPU/CPU chips (called APU by AMD)
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2049044&highlight=llano

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2049242&highlight=llano

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2061249&highlight=sandy+bridge

 

[Spicedaddy]

I have actually researched about Intel one day have a chip that does GPU and CPU. Then we won't need a GPU card. By the way this might happen in 2020 also,, But I know for fact through a source I have in silicon valley that Intel has many plans, and one day their chips would do 3D as well.
Ive read many different dates.. like

2016 what the thread title is. 2020 and even as early as 2014, but I doubt that one.

I would say nVidia and ATI might be in deep jeopardy when Intel learns how to do GPU as well. By this time we would not even use a PCIe slot for the video card, as CPU has the GPU and its faster then anything nvidia or ati have created.. anyhow that is when Im upgrading next,, CPU and GPU same chip. Until then CPU's will run 3dmark 3D tests @ 1fps lol

2020, 2016, 2014? LOL, how about January 2010, when they released Clarkdale...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2901

 

[soccerballtux]

lol@op

 

[Zap]

I have actually researched about Intel one day have a chip that does GPU and CPU. Then we won't need a GPU card. By the way this might happen in 2020 also

Clarkdale? Larrabee? What rock have you been hiding under?

 

[sandorski]

Kinda hard to do when everyone knows Intel will be out of business in 2012!

 

[aigomorla]

doesnt the world end in 2012?

 

[Ben90]

I have actually researched about Intel one day have a chip that does GPU and CPU.

You may have missed this in your research:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2901

The high end will always be dominated by a discrete card as they have the TPD to work with.

 

[BD231]

Tweakboy you should seriously consider suing your brain for child support.

If it were up to Intel nVidia would already be gone, they did after all sue Intel after they were duped out of the chip set market. One thing I do see coming is Intel besting nVidia in the integrated segment, that much is clear.

 

[Dark Shroud]

Right now ATI is raking in the money on the 5000 series and will be launching the 6000 series later this year. If they can get OpenCL or Stream support into the Adobe suits then they will be golden.

 

[OCGuy]

lol @ this thread.

 

[Hyperlite]

edit: i have absolutely nothing constructive to add to this enlightened thread.

 

[Lonyo]

Intels sandy bridge is on 32nm . the gpu portion is huge comparred to cpu portion . See pics on internet

The CPU portion is 32nm, the GPU + NB portion is on 45nm.
Surprise, surprise, it's bigger.

 

[ElFenix]

intel has been selling integrated graphics for years and ati and nvidia are still doing pretty well. heck, right now intel is selling a cpu/gpu combo chip that sits in a motherboard socket and neither amd nor nvidia are really fearful of it.

as long as the gpu sits in a socket and talks to slow ass system ram there will be a use for a dedicated graphics card with it's own memory.

(anyone know what kind of bandwidth nehalem has to each of its caches? i can't find that info on the intarwebs)

 

[adlep]

Integrated graphics will always suck when compared to a discrete solution - everyone knows this!

P.S. ATI is gone now for more than 2 years....

 

[Soleron]

If Llano does actually have 400SPs+ like the die shots suggest, then certainly the low-end discrete cards will be out of business for desktop and mobile.

 

[deimos3428]

Six (or ten) years is a very, very long time in GPU technology. It's really hard to say what we'll have in 2020 -- for all we know, it might not be silicon-based by then.

Why just the other day I was comparing a Voodoo II to a 5870...

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=9&card2=613