Nvidia accused of cheating over graphics tech

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Markfw

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Acanthus, you missed my point. Since you can;t buy a 6800U yet, they don;t count as being the fastest. So technically, right now ATI still has the lead. I grant you, I am VERY impressed with the reference card preview I read about, but until I can buy one, who cares ?
 

XBoxLPU

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Dug

Originally posted by: Acanthus

No this is stupid fanboi driver cheat slander BS and FUD. It doesnt belong in GH.







Go cry where the people who know wtf they are talking about can discredit you like rabid sharks to a wounded seal. Oh wait, thats the reason you posted it here.



Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?



No, it just gets frustrating dealing with all the crap in the video forums, and now its coming to GH too.

Well cry me a f*cking river
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Acanthus, you missed my point. Since you can;t buy a 6800U yet, they don;t count as being the fastest. So technically, right now ATI still has the lead. I grant you, I am VERY impressed with the reference card preview I read about, but until I can buy one, who cares ?

Its called being an enthusiast... I can look at specs and performance of an '05 mustang and i dont go. I cant buy it yet, who cares?
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Dug

Originally posted by: Acanthus

No this is stupid fanboi driver cheat slander BS and FUD. It doesnt belong in GH.







Go cry where the people who know wtf they are talking about can discredit you like rabid sharks to a wounded seal. Oh wait, thats the reason you posted it here.



Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?



No, it just gets frustrating dealing with all the crap in the video forums, and now its coming to GH too.

Well cry me a f*cking river

Really i was going for your sympathy ;) back to your hole!
 

bluemax

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: txxxx
I was kind of waiting for this to happen...
So . . . when can we expect ATI's next "cheating" scandal?
I can only remember one ATI scandal.... the Q3 "Quack". Were there others? If so, what were they?[/quote]
 

Dean

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Originally posted by: bluemax
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: txxxx
I was kind of waiting for this to happen...
So . . . when can we expect ATI's next "cheating" scandal?
I can only remember one ATI scandal.... the Q3 "Quack". Were there others? If so, what were they?
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ATI did replace shaders in an early version of 3dmark 2003 which took advantage of Water and Sky. The shaders were 100% correct and gave a 100% accurate software renderer result. Many claim that it was a valid optimisation and if it was a game it would have been fine. 3dmark claimed that since their software is a benchmark only, it made the ATI optimizations invalid, so ATI removed those optimizations immediately on the next released driver set.
 

UlricT

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let me ask you guys this again... does the current version of DirectX (9.0b) support PS3.0? I dont think so.... so how can the PS3.0 path be used in any program without HAL support???
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Dug

Originally posted by: Acanthus

No this is stupid fanboi driver cheat slander BS and FUD. It doesnt belong in GH.







Go cry where the people who know wtf they are talking about can discredit you like rabid sharks to a wounded seal. Oh wait, thats the reason you posted it here.



Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?



No, it just gets frustrating dealing with all the crap in the video forums, and now its coming to GH too.
It belongs in GH. :p

:roll:

And "we' get tired of dealing with your crap. ;)
Perhaps you should learn to stay out of certain threads (esp. if you can't handle your end of the debate). :p



AND, i do NOT believe the current ver of DX9 supports 3.0
 

MegaWorks

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Acanthus

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Dug

Originally posted by: Acanthus

No this is stupid fanboi driver cheat slander BS and FUD. It doesnt belong in GH.







Go cry where the people who know wtf they are talking about can discredit you like rabid sharks to a wounded seal. Oh wait, thats the reason you posted it here.



Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?



No, it just gets frustrating dealing with all the crap in the video forums, and now its coming to GH too.
It belongs in GH. :p

:roll:

And "we' get tired of dealing with your crap. ;)
Perhaps you should learn to stay out of certain threads (esp. if you can't handle your end of the debate). :p



AND, i do NOT believe the current ver of DX9 supports 3.0

Funny how ATi had graphics anomolies too, but no one seemed to notice them appopin. Funny when i said that it was BETA HARDWARE WITH BETA FIRMWARE ON BETA DRIVERS. No one has anything to say. If the X800 series had issues before release, i would wait until AFTER RELEASE to talk about it. This is a PREVIEW not seeing the future through friggin magic.

I wonder if you have 14000 posts of personal attacks to back up your opinion? :roll:
 

Mem

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I do love watching people on the Forums argue.

Lol...I`ve to agree ;),anyway the 6800 Ultra is not even out yet and we all know there`ll be new drivers out by then so what we see now is not really important.


As to cheating well I`m going to sit on the fence on this one and stay neutral,at the end of the day all I care about is a good card from either Nvidia or ATi depending on which model is best for me on price & performance, stability is more important to me in gaming then anything else,so far I`ve had good stability from both ATi and Nvidia.

How long before we see another cheating thread pop up ;).
 

RanDum72

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I'll just wait for the cards to appear in retail channels and then I'll start minding the benches.
 

Bonesdad

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Dug



Originally posted by: Acanthus



No this is stupid fanboi driver cheat slander BS and FUD. It doesnt belong in GH.















Go cry where the people who know wtf they are talking about can discredit you like rabid sharks to a wounded seal. Oh wait, thats the reason you posted it here.







Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?







No, it just gets frustrating dealing with all the crap in the video forums, and now its coming to GH too.
It belongs in GH. :p



:roll:



And "we' get tired of dealing with your crap. ;)

Perhaps you should learn to stay out of certain threads (esp. if you can't handle your end of the debate). :p







AND, i do NOT believe the current ver of DX9 supports 3.0



Funny how ATi had graphics anomolies too, but no one seemed to notice them appopin. Funny when i said that it was BETA HARDWARE WITH BETA FIRMWARE ON BETA DRIVERS. No one has anything to say. If the X800 series had issues before release, i would wait until AFTER RELEASE to talk about it. This is a PREVIEW not seeing the future through friggin magic.



I wonder if you have 14000 posts of personal attacks to back up your opinion? :roll:



____________

hmmmm...so your reference to the rest of us as "tards" does not count as a personal attack?
 

imported_Phil

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Originally posted by: Bonesdad

<snip> like 2-3 pages...

hmmmm...so your reference to the rest of us as "tards" does not count as a personal attack?

Holy Absurd Quoted Post, Batman!
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Dug



Originally posted by: Acanthus



No this is stupid fanboi driver cheat slander BS and FUD. It doesnt belong in GH.















Go cry where the people who know wtf they are talking about can discredit you like rabid sharks to a wounded seal. Oh wait, thats the reason you posted it here.







Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?







No, it just gets frustrating dealing with all the crap in the video forums, and now its coming to GH too.
It belongs in GH. :p



:roll:



And "we' get tired of dealing with your crap. ;)

Perhaps you should learn to stay out of certain threads (esp. if you can't handle your end of the debate). :p







AND, i do NOT believe the current ver of DX9 supports 3.0



Funny how ATi had graphics anomolies too, but no one seemed to notice them appopin. Funny when i said that it was BETA HARDWARE WITH BETA FIRMWARE ON BETA DRIVERS. No one has anything to say. If the X800 series had issues before release, i would wait until AFTER RELEASE to talk about it. This is a PREVIEW not seeing the future through friggin magic.



I wonder if you have 14000 posts of personal attacks to back up your opinion? :roll:
You're the retard that started the personal attacks. :p

:roll:

I (simply) posted news that DH accused nVidia of cheating . . . ;)
(why don't you send a nasty e-mail to them?

:roll:
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Aww poor ATI, wahhh wahhhh wahhhh. God those canadians annoy me :p

lol :beer:

I have read that ATI actually is a bigger corporation than Nvidia, so maybe not so poor.
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Cashmoney995
Aww poor ATI, wahhh wahhhh wahhhh. God those canadians annoy me :p

lol :beer:

I have read that ATI actually is a bigger corporation than Nvidia, so maybe not so poor.

ati is currently worth $4.19billion versus nvidia's $3.85 billion. on the other hand nvidia has higher revenue and profits than ati.
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Mem

Lol...I`ve to agree ;),anyway the 6800 Ultra is not even out yet and we all know there`ll be new drivers out by then so what we see now is not really important.



Nvidia released those drivers with the 6800ultra to be reviewed. To say anything else is just silly. IQ will probably improve with new drivers, but to shoot the messenger is not in the best interests of consumers.
 

Mem

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Nvidia released those drivers with the 6800ultra to be reviewed


Regardless those drivers will only be what Nvidia can release at the time,it does not mean they are 100% perfect,I`ve yet to see any company release a driver with a new video product that`s near perfect.Nvidia will improve the drivers for the 6800 that`s a fact.

Drivers are always evolving,especially with new products,are you going to worry about a so called "cheating driver " on a product that`s not even out yet?

Bottom line it`s too early to judge IMHO,especially for the reasons I`ve listed above.