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NV40, up close and personal.

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
AT review tomorrow hopefully 😀

Me too.Anand is always a reliable source

I'm bored with this misinformation,fanatism,speculation and promised "amazing performance" of both companies
When I see both in benches performing, will be a different story



 
Originally posted by: jasonja
Can you post a link to that warp2Search thread? I'd like to read more.


unfortunately that's all that was said..

Re: Real NV40 Photo (Score: 1)
by The_truth (laughing@you.god) on Monday, April 12 @ 17:39:21 CEST
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A certain new card we have caused one of our PCs (an Athlon XP) to auto shutdown after 20/25 minutes gaming. This was due to heat build up in the case, the otherwise OK CPU was overheating, it was 10c+ hotter with this card than with a 5950.. The case had 80mm fans front and back.
If you have an already hot/overclocked computer you may not get on with this certain card (that i cant yet mention of course).
What with this and the need for a warp core to power it i forsee trouble ahead for many purchasers.





http://www.warp2search.net/modules....sid=17397&20930
 
Dang, that isn't good news. Even a true 16x1 pipeline won't be worth it if it comes at the cost of some kind of large expensive cooling system, assuming of course they ARE talking about the NV40, it's possible that it's the R420. Remember, they can't say. 😉
 
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉
 
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.
 
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.


Well considering that post mentioned it took a "warp core" to power it and we know that the 420 only uses one Molex and is Low K process. I'm real certain this post was about the NV40.
 
Originally posted by: jasonja
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.


Well considering that post mentioned it took a "warp core" to power it and we know that the 420 only uses one Molex and is Low K process. I'm real certain this post was about the NV40.


I say it's possible they're talking about either still. But hey, we'll find out soon enough, no?

Plus, a well ventilated case really shouldn't have trouble at all, regardless of which GPU it is. People need to learn that computers need maitenance, just like cars. Keep the wiring neat, blast the dust out every few weeks, and take care of the software end of things...
 
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.

But then again Ati cards will have less transistors(supposedly a lot less if Nvidia has 220) and low-k, while Nvidia will not

 
Happy, Happy. Joy, Joy!!!
Looks like its going to be a 'any given sunday' battle for the AGP slot in our boxes.

I hope what "'RussianSensation'" says comes true. If so, Ill definitely get a card for 3bills, anymore and I will play the waiting game. Im so excited. An doom isnt even out yet.
 
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
click me, you know you wanna

you know.. the more i see that photo, the less "genuine" i think it is.. not only does placing the fan over the dvi connectors seem "backwards" (alot more likely to have poor ventilation right there), but if you look at the "crispness" of the cooling unit, it doesn't seem to "fit" with the slightly out of focus dvi connector which it covers.

this actually bums me out a bit, since the koren site which had prices up also display that picture - making me question the validity of the prices as well.. cause at $299/399 i was more than willing to step up immediately heh.

What are you... one of those people living in a basement with alfoil wrapped around your head so aliens can't read your thoughts? First of all, the truth is NOT out there and secondly the pic is NOT a fake.
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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.

But also remember that the R420 has less transistors and that it is using low-k dielectric prossessing thus it should run much cooler than the NV40 core.

low-k, google if you want more
 
Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.

But also remember that the R420 has less transistors and that it is using low-k dielectric prossessing thus it should run much cooler than the NV40 core.

low-k, google if you want more

NV40 doesn't use this method?

 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
heh.. true...

but gddr3 is supposed to use less power and run cooler.. so one must assume it's the gpu (tho by all indications the clock speeds have been lowered) causing all the heat, and an efficient cooling system should be able to dissapate the heat - tho if it indeed that "hot", venting it back into the case wouldn't make much sense... i suppose we'll know in a few hours tho 😉

Well that's the thing - ATi's cards are supposedly clocked higher this round - meaning which card they're talking about here really is anyone's guess. Recall that higher clocks need more power to stay stable as well.

But also remember that the R420 has less transistors and that it is using low-k dielectric prossessing thus it should run much cooler than the NV40 core.

low-k, google if you want more

NV40 doesn't use this method?

If they did don't you think they would have already put it into the specs and it would have been all over the news when it was taped out, just like Ati did with the R420?
 
Man, dual DVI as a relatively standard feature of the cards would be smooth. My dual flat panels would both love to run on DVI, leaving their analog connectors for my other machines.
 
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