ok I just thought about this. The nv20 mx will pobably never exist. The original GeForce did not have a lower end part(exept if you cound the change of memory type) The GF2(like the tnt2 before it) was the part to have all the diferent types of implementations(MX, Pro, Ultra, GTS) What im trying to say is that we will probably have to wait untill the refresh part(nv25?) to get mx,ultra type cards.