NV focus group members market NV products

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Yes, they ask us not to push their products. And we can post freely about whatever we want. And it is this that you deem marketing.

Is that not what you and rollo were doing in that thread?

Something is afoul at AT. And it's not it's focus group members.

Right, its not the two or three members that bring about the divisiveness into the forums, its the rest of us :roll:

Wrong. It's only a few that got together to create a perception of a problem.

 

[WelshBloke]

If not marketing then what are the focus group members here for?

They cant give out prerelease info as they are all under NDA's.
They cant sort out vendor issues as they represent nV not the card makers.

I'm not sure what it adds to the forum (obviously the group members gain).

 

[OCGuy]

Dont worry keys. There is a witchhunt against anyone that says anything positive about NV right now. Take a look at how bad someone gets flamed for pointing out the most basic facts........

If you were "marketing" ATi, this thread wouldnt be here.

 

[cubby1223]

I'll be brutally honest here on the subject -

I personally don't really have a problem with anyone who is a part of an nvidia focus group (or an ati focus group if such things were known, or any other form of corporate affiliation). I only take issue with anyone who has a similarity with Rollo. 😉 To me, his name will always be synonymous with his past attempts to bully & manipulate the forum and get users banned. I will never believe anything he writes, no matter how much goodwill he may build up. He can write anything in response to messages here and I will distrust every word. There's such a thing as "reflected glory", I suspect what keysplyr2003 is really experiencing is little more than "reflected baggage".

 

[olds]

Face it, some people are not smart enough to know the difference between opinion and marketing.
/thread

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Face it, some people are not smart enough to know the difference between opinion and marketing.
/thread

I suppose people are getting confused because when people are getting given incentives by a company to post favorable opinions about certain products it can look like marketing.

Hey wait, that is marketing.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Face it, some people are not smart enough to know the difference between opinion and marketing.
/thread

I suppose people are getting confused because when people are getting given incentives by a company to post favorable opinions about certain products it can look like marketing.

Hey wait, that is marketing.

This was hashed out when the idea of first allowing focus groups to post (which I was against) was brought up. They allowed it, it's old news. Why this has been allowed to go on is beyond me, let me see if I got this right:
1. AT makes a decision to allow focus groups
2. Uproar ensues
3. AT sticks to it's guns and allows it
4. Members are harassed in spite of AT's decision and they allow the harassment
^^^^ that right there should be the issue

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Face it, some people are not smart enough to know the difference between opinion and marketing.
/thread

I suppose people are getting confused because when people are getting given incentives by a company to post favorable opinions about certain products it can look like marketing.

Hey wait, that is marketing.

This was hashed out when the idea of first allowing focus groups to post (which I was against) was brought up. They allowed it, it's old news. Why this has been allowed to go on is beyond me, let me see if I got this right:
1. AT makes a decision to allow focus groups
2. Uproar ensues
3. AT sticks to it's guns and allows it
4. Members are harassed in spite of AT's decision and they allow the harassment
^^^^ that right there should be the issue

Well i suppose this thread was started because a thread about an ATI product was locked after being spammed by nV focus group members.

Frankly if I was a rep for a company I'd stay clear of threads about competitors products if i wanted to avoid starting flame wars.
If I wanted to post freely about anything I wouldnt get linked to one particular company.

When it was decided to let focus group members post wasnt it so we would get insider information and help but no maketing?
All I'm seeing is marketing and no insider goodies.

 

[nismotigerwvu]

Originally posted by: DerekWilson

And it's not even really their "fault" -- it is their perspective that is tainted.

I don't think it could be summed up any better than this. I don't want to make a useless post but this is exactly how I feel. Also, for nRollo to indirectly accuse the OP of being either a viral marketer, a banned member or something other than just a normal person (like myself and 99.9999999% of the this board) that was actually displeased with something he said is one of the more self-righteous/arrogant comments that one could make in the situation. Besides, if it was only the OP who was bothered by this, this thread would have been DOA.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: DerekWilson

And it's not even really their "fault" -- it is their perspective that is tainted.

I don't think it could be summed up any better than this. I don't want to make a useless post but this is exactly how I feel. Also, for nRollo to indirectly accuse the OP of being either a viral marketer, a banned member or something other than just a normal person (like myself and 99.9999999% of the this board) that was actually displeased with something he said is one of the more self-righteous/arrogant comments that one could make in the situation. Besides, if it was only the OP who was bothered by this, this thread would have been DOA.

So if a mob is angered by something, they're automatically correct?

Salem witch trials, Holocaust, Kosovo, lynchings, all justified. People wouldn't have been angry if there wasn't good reason, right?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Face it, some people are not smart enough to know the difference between opinion and marketing.
/thread

I suppose people are getting confused because when people are getting given incentives by a company to post favorable opinions about certain products it can look like marketing.

Hey wait, that is marketing.

This was hashed out when the idea of first allowing focus groups to post (which I was against) was brought up. They allowed it, it's old news. Why this has been allowed to go on is beyond me, let me see if I got this right:
1. AT makes a decision to allow focus groups
2. Uproar ensues
3. AT sticks to it's guns and allows it
4. Members are harassed in spite of AT's decision and they allow the harassment
^^^^ that right there should be the issue

QFT

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: nRollo

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: DerekWilson

And it's not even really their "fault" -- it is their perspective that is tainted.

I don't think it could be summed up any better than this. I don't want to make a useless post but this is exactly how I feel. Also, for nRollo to indirectly accuse the OP of being either a viral marketer, a banned member or something other than just a normal person (like myself and 99.9999999% of the this board) that was actually displeased with something he said is one of the more self-righteous/arrogant comments that one could make in the situation. Besides, if it was only the OP who was bothered by this, this thread would have been DOA.

So if a mob is angered by something, they're automatically correct?

Salem witch trials, Holocaust, Kosovo, lynchings, all justified. People wouldn't have been angry if there wasn't good reason, right?

Way to go with the hyperbole there. :roll: No ones accusing anyone of genocide.


Forums are collective places, if your angering the members (not nice to call them a mob) then your doing something wrong.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: WelshBloke

Originally posted by: nRollo

Originally posted by: nismotigerwvu

Originally posted by: DerekWilson

And it's not even really their "fault" -- it is their perspective that is tainted.

I don't think it could be summed up any better than this. I don't want to make a useless post but this is exactly how I feel. Also, for nRollo to indirectly accuse the OP of being either a viral marketer, a banned member or something other than just a normal person (like myself and 99.9999999% of the this board) that was actually displeased with something he said is one of the more self-righteous/arrogant comments that one could make in the situation. Besides, if it was only the OP who was bothered by this, this thread would have been DOA.

So if a mob is angered by something, they're automatically correct?

Salem witch trials, Holocaust, Kosovo, lynchings, all justified. People wouldn't have been angry if there wasn't good reason, right?

Way to go with the hyperbole there. :roll: No ones accusing anyone of genocide.


Forums are collective places, if your angering the members (not nice to call them a mob) then your doing something wrong.

Same logic applies.

People being angry about something doesn't mean the people they are angry at have done anything wrong.

During the civil rights movement, many people were angry at minorities. The minorities were right.

During the ERA movement, people were angry at women. The women were right.

During the Civil War, many people were angry at the Northern States. The Northern States were right.

Etc ad inifinitum.

Please refer us to what principle of logic you're using when you say "If you are angering people, you must be doing something wrong." with a link so that I may understand.