Numerous Dems join GOP to be Big Pharma stooges

[Brainonska511]

Tell me again how much big pharma CARES. Tell me to deny reality. Tell me again how the authors of this study are the liars and big pharma are the honest brokers.

I'm not saying pharmaceuticals are always honest brokers. But they aren't some monolithic entity filled with blood-sucking parasites. I know many people that go into pharmaceutical science and at the end of the day, they still want to help people.

 

[bshole]

Tax payer money goes towards a ton of research, both basic and applied. Bleed money towards the applied side though and you'd be hurting us all in the long run. You can't ignore basic research - that's the stuff that helps us understand why a disease is the way it is and what things are going wrong at a molecular level; due to its uncertain return, it's best to let government fund that and (under the current system) let industry pick up the tab on research where they could get a return on investment.

Disagree. Americans would better off for the government to pick up the ENTIRE tab and cut private industry out altogether. I am sick to the puke point of big pharma telling us why $50/pill is justified by all the money they had to spend in R&D. Well fuck that, let the government pick up the tab.

At this point it is too late. They own our government and what they desire they will get. What they desire are profit margins four times higher than any other industry year after year, decade after decade.

 

[bshole]

Considering patents is a public creation, which involves a certain level of trust that the patentholder won't manipulate the market, I think it's safe to say that big pharma has broken that trust, and a reform is necessary in one way or another.

Agreed.... big pharma has beat the shit out of that trust, ass-raped it and left it bleeding in the alley.

Unfortunately we are beyond reform. Big pharma is untouchable and have been for decades. They have simply pumped too much money into politicians. They own the votes to protect themselves and that will never change. The best we can do is point out when they screw us over. It won't change anything but at least they know that we know what they are doing.

 

[Darwin333]

Wow, one asshole actually had the balls to say he voted against it because he was concerned about the safety of Canada's prescription drugs... I'd love to see their campaign contributions but I'm far to lazy to dig through them.

 

[Darwin333]

One point to note:

All but 8 or 9 Republican Senators voted it down

Yes, thread title is completely misleading.

Yeah but you kind of expect the Republicans to be corporate shills. It's almost impressive that many crossed over and voted for it and I would have definitely thought that would have been enough for the bill to pass.

 

[jman19]

Every now and then, Repubs and Dems find common ground. Usually it's to fuck the American people.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I thought i seen a lists of the voters against it and they were bought out by lobbying, on both the dems and repubs side

 

[ElFenix]

Thread merge!

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

big pharma, too big to fail. too late to make them fail.
personally I cannot stand them and I feel as though they own some of this opiate addiction going on in this country to some degree, along with numerous other 'take a pill and you'll be fine' things.
and pharma lobbyists, blech, as loathsome as big oil lobbyists

 

[Victorian Gray]

Glad to see the party who loves regulation is OK with no regulation when it comes to drugs. Canada doesn't have an equivalent to our FDA (they rely on the U.S. service to do the work for them) so there would be no quality control or safety inspections on Canadian sourced drugs. While I have nothing against Canada this is the wrong approach to reducing drug costs in the U.S. Reform the intellectual property and copyright laws or support more government funded new medical molecule development if you want to reduce drug costs in the U.S.

How Drugs are Reviewed in Canada

"Drugs are authorized for sale in Canada once they have successfully gone through the drug review process. This process is the means by which a drug application is reviewed by scientists in the Health Products and Food Branch (HPFB) of Health Canada, and on occasion, outside experts, to assess the safety, efficacy and quality of a drug."

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodpharma/activit/fs-fi/reviewfs_examenfd-eng.php

 

[MongGrel]

big pharma, too big to fail. too late to make them fail.
personally I cannot stand them and I feel as though they own some of this opiate addiction going on in this country to some degree, along with numerous other 'take a pill and you'll be fine' things.
and pharma lobbyists, blech, as loathsome as big oil lobbyists

Pretty much, it used to be based pretty much in Puerto Rico, haven't much haven't looked in awhile.

I haven't even stopped by there in awhile, have been there a few times in the past, US Pharma is a big thing there.

Is like banking in the Caymans, is one of the few places most US citizens can get off a cruise ship and feel a bit inadequate.