Nuclear Power Reborn

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Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Hi, I actually am a nuclear engineer and work for a power company. Feel free to ask me any questions. :)

Why do scientists and engineers continue to build things people don't have the emotional maturity to handle? Why have you guys tagged yourselves as Mad? Why are engineers famous for being dorks that don't display normal feelings? Why do you trade your intellectual powers for money when what you create is often bad for people? Why with all your brains do you often have such low emotional intelligence?

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Any more questions?

Yes, do you know if there is a time line on when the ITER project's goals to create a sustained plasma with Q=5 is projected to be achieved?
 

QuantumPion

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Hi, I actually am a nuclear engineer and work for a power company. Feel free to ask me any questions. :)

Why do scientists and engineers continue to build things people don't have the emotional maturity to handle? Why have you guys tagged yourselves as Mad? Why are engineers famous for being dorks that don't display normal feelings? Why do you trade your intellectual powers for money when what you create is often bad for people? Why with all your brains do you often have such low emotional intelligence?

42.

Any more questions?

Yes, do you know if there is a time line on when the ITER project's goals to create a sustained plasma with Q=5 is projected to be achieved?

According to ITER's web page, it should start operation by 2016 and their goal is to have a Q=10 plasma by 2022.

If ITER is successful, then they will probably begin to research and fund an even bigger tokamak that will be large enough to be a prototype for commercial applications. Based on the timeline for the ITER project which started in 1985 (i.e. 30 years from concept to online), it will be 2050 before such a reactor is online, 10 years for it to achieve its research goals, 10 more years for design and licensing of a commercial plant, and 10 years for its construction. So my prediction is that commercial fusion will not be a reality until 2080.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Hi, I actually am a nuclear engineer and work for a power company. Feel free to ask me any questions. :)

Why do scientists and engineers continue to build things people don't have the emotional maturity to handle? Why have you guys tagged yourselves as Mad? Why are engineers famous for being dorks that don't display normal feelings? Why do you trade your intellectual powers for money when what you create is often bad for people? Why with all your brains do you often have such low emotional intelligence?

42.

Any more questions?

Yes, do you know if there is a time line on when the ITER project's goals to create a sustained plasma with Q=5 is projected to be achieved?

According to ITER's web page, it should start operation by 2016 and their goal is to have a Q=10 plasma by 2022.

If ITER is successful, then they will probably begin to research and fund an even bigger tokamak that will be large enough to be a prototype for commercial applications. Based on the timeline for the ITER project which started in 1985 (i.e. 30 years from concept to online), it will be 2050 before such a reactor is online, 10 years for it to achieve its research goals, 10 more years for design and licensing of a commercial plant, and 10 years for its construction. So my prediction is that commercial fusion will not be a reality until 2080.


Well that sucks, was hoping to see a Fusion reactor before I kicked the bucket.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Hi, I actually am a nuclear engineer and work for a power company. Feel free to ask me any questions. :)

Why do scientists and engineers continue to build things people don't have the emotional maturity to handle? Why have you guys tagged yourselves as Mad? Why are engineers famous for being dorks that don't display normal feelings? Why do you trade your intellectual powers for money when what you create is often bad for people? Why with all your brains do you often have such low emotional intelligence?

42.

Any more questions?

Yes, do you know if there is a time line on when the ITER project's goals to create a sustained plasma with Q=5 is projected to be achieved?

According to ITER's web page, it should start operation by 2016 and their goal is to have a Q=10 plasma by 2022.

If ITER is successful, then they will probably begin to research and fund an even bigger tokamak that will be large enough to be a prototype for commercial applications. Based on the timeline for the ITER project which started in 1985 (i.e. 30 years from concept to online), it will be 2050 before such a reactor is online, 10 years for it to achieve its research goals, 10 more years for design and licensing of a commercial plant, and 10 years for its construction. So my prediction is that commercial fusion will not be a reality until 2080.


Well that sucks, was hoping to see a Fusion reactor before I kicked the bucket.

Yes but that's when it might maybe maybe be ready to go commercial, not when it will be fully built and supplying our energy needs. There's many a slip twixt the cup and the lip.
 

QuantumPion

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No, 2080 was my prediction for the first commercial fusion power plant going online. That is just linearly extrapolating by our current progress rate though, the situation could change drastically at any point.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
No, 2080 was my prediction for the first commercial fusion power plant going online. That is just linearly extrapolating by our current progress rate though, the situation could change drastically at any point.

Not sure who the 'no' above was meant for. What I was saying is what you are confirming here. I was trying to tell Genx he could expect to wait for 2080 to see the first commercial reactor but a lot longer to see it, fusion, powering everything if it ever does.
 

Modelworks

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New nuclear plants should be built and at a faster rate.
I've lived for 20 years within 30 miles of a nuclear plant and as of yet, I'm not glowing in the dark and the rate per kw is pretty good.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
New nuclear plants should be built and at a faster rate.
I've lived for 20 years within 30 miles of a nuclear plant and as of yet, I'm not glowing in the dark and the rate per kw is pretty good.

Yup, the first 100 floors aren't too bad. It's that sudden stop at the bottom that can get you.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Hi, I actually am a nuclear engineer and work for a power company. Feel free to ask me any questions. :)

Why do scientists and engineers continue to build things people don't have the emotional maturity to handle? Why have you guys tagged yourselves as Mad? Why are engineers famous for being dorks that don't display normal feelings? Why do you trade your intellectual powers for money when what you create is often bad for people? Why with all your brains do you often have such low emotional intelligence?

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That's total Bullshit... according to my calculations it's 54.
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
Hi, I actually am a nuclear engineer and work for a power company. Feel free to ask me any questions. :)

Why do scientists and engineers continue to build things people don't have the emotional maturity to handle? Why have you guys tagged yourselves as Mad? Why are engineers famous for being dorks that don't display normal feelings? Why do you trade your intellectual powers for money when what you create is often bad for people? Why with all your brains do you often have such low emotional intelligence?

42.

Any more questions?

That's total Bullshit... according to my calculations it's 54.

Google thinks you're wrong
 

Butterbean

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Oct 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
New nuclear plants should be built and at a faster rate.
I've lived for 20 years within 30 miles of a nuclear plant and as of yet, I'm not glowing in the dark and the rate per kw is pretty good.


An engineer who worked at our's murdered his wife and kids last winter (then killed himself by taking off his pants and stabbing himself in the groin). I know other guys work there who can't even see their feet their beer bellies are so big from drinking a case of beera night the weeks they are off (retired submariners who do the nukey stuff on rotations). It never been the terrorists that concemned me (9-11 plane flew right by) as much as the people who work there. Having these 60 yr old plants in an area of 50 million doesn't seem smart to me all around.