Nuclear Bomb Simulator

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SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Hmm, i thought i live pretty close to DC, but it would take a bomb no one has to reach me. It would require about 15megatons to reach me at +1psi and maybe 10 megatons to get me at +.25psi and as of now, i dont think even the US or the old republics of the USSR have any in stock.

Russia has (or had) 50 Megaton and 100 Megaton warheads. The problem with the 100 Megaton bomb is that they did not have an airplane large enough to carry it.

The Russian AH-124 makes a Boeing 747 look like a baby Cessna and yet they could not fit a 100 Megaton Warhead in it.
http://www.raphoto.com/avbio01.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-124

And was later supplanted by the Antov 225 (still too small for a 100 Megaton Bomb)
http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=389
http://www.geocities.com/perry_peterson_1999/225d-large.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-225

That would be the Tsara Bomb or something like that. IIRC, the estimates place the yield at 100-150mt, depending on the source. Also, the fallout and damage was so severe, they never tested the full bomb (they removed one or two of the stages to get it down to a smaller detonation).
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
MX Warhead - 300 KT

What the OP's article doesn't allude to is to 'stacking' or 'pancaking' - where a ground burst is topped
with a one mile high altitude burst - the 'cap' blows the ground burst back down and sideways, increasing the effect 100 fold.
It extends the affected zone around ground zero by more than 10 times the radius of a single warhead.

well yea of course not. that was a russian attack model and the simualtor does not count for one target say DC, Colorado springs being hit by at least 15 nukes each.
 

Tiamat

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A 50 MT bomb (ala Tsar Bomba) would be pretty damaging to Boston it seems. Damage radius all the way to the RI border and NH border. That would suck.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Hmm, i thought i live pretty close to DC, but it would take a bomb no one has to reach me. It would require about 15megatons to reach me at +1psi and maybe 10 megatons to get me at +.25psi and as of now, i dont think even the US or the old republics of the USSR have any in stock.

The soviets have a 50 megaton bomb.
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Hmm, i thought i live pretty close to DC, but it would take a bomb no one has to reach me. It would require about 15megatons to reach me at +1psi and maybe 10 megatons to get me at +.25psi and as of now, i dont think even the US or the old republics of the USSR have any in stock.

The soviets have a 50 megaton bomb.

IIRC, that is somewhat incorrect. The Tsar Bomba is a 100mt weapon. It is a 3-stage device. The test detonation was conducted after the Soviets had removed the third (and possibly second, depending on the source) stage of the device, reducing the explosion to 50-57mt (again, depending on source). The 100mt version has never been tested as the radioactive yield would be massive (basically, even a test could be considered an act of war based on the amount of fallout all over the planet).
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Hmm, i thought i live pretty close to DC, but it would take a bomb no one has to reach me. It would require about 15megatons to reach me at +1psi and maybe 10 megatons to get me at +.25psi and as of now, i dont think even the US or the old republics of the USSR have any in stock.



SS-18 baby

20Mt.
 

Toastedlightly

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Hmm, i thought i live pretty close to DC, but it would take a bomb no one has to reach me. It would require about 15megatons to reach me at +1psi and maybe 10 megatons to get me at +.25psi and as of now, i dont think even the US or the old republics of the USSR have any in stock.

The Chinese ICBMs mount about a 10Mt single warhead.

you know ignorance is bliss right?

Anyway there is no reason for China to sell their nukes or to hate America(for now anyway). I think the chinese government is pretty stable, Uzbekistan or even Russia on the other hand...

You forget about the 50 megaton bomb the Russkies made..

Damn, I was late.
 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: Toastedlightly
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Hmm, i thought i live pretty close to DC, but it would take a bomb no one has to reach me. It would require about 15megatons to reach me at +1psi and maybe 10 megatons to get me at +.25psi and as of now, i dont think even the US or the old republics of the USSR have any in stock.

The Chinese ICBMs mount about a 10Mt single warhead.

you know ignorance is bliss right?

Anyway there is no reason for China to sell their nukes or to hate America(for now anyway). I think the chinese government is pretty stable, Uzbekistan or even Russia on the other hand...

You forget about the 50 megaton bomb the Russkies made..

Damn, I was late.

The 50MT nuke hitting downtown Portland would level everthing between Hillsboro, Gresham, Vancouver, and Tualatin. Of course, the west hills would deflect the blast a little, so maybe Hillsboro would be spared.

Makes me want to move to the coast even more. At least there you only have to worry about good old fashioned tsunamis.
 

BrownTown

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NOBODY has a 50MT nuke, 1 was built as a demonstraction, but a nuke that large is a huge waste of materials. The largest nukes are ~15MT, and the "optimal" size for a nuclear weapon is ~500kT. The larger a nuke is the more energy is simply wasted since most of it simply shoots up into the air creating the huge mushroom cloud. It is much more efficient in terms of materials used to use several 500kT nukes on a single target.

Also, the North Korean nuke is between .5KT and 5 KT, I think everyone should notice how much smaller a blast this would make then you standard 500kT device, or a 10MT strategic bomb.

EDIT: looking at different sites it seems the vast majority of US nukes are between 100-500kT, so that seems to be the standard size for a nuke these days. Most if not all of the largest nukes have been retired.
 

fire400

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
wow...

possible aftermaths:
23. Money paid to U.S. citizens under the Radiation Exposure and Compensation Act of 1990, as of January 13, 1998: approximately $225,000,000 (6,336 claims approved; 3,156 denied)

http://www.brook.edu/FP/PROJECTS/NUCWCOST/50.htm

radiation poisening is the beginning. the damage done by a huge bomb would cost millions of dollars to clean up.