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NTLDR is missing

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cpmer

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I am trying load up xp on a a seagate 160 gig hd on abit AV8 motheboard. I got the latest verison of bios on it. The hd is ony primary master with nothing on the slave. The jumper setting is for master. When i turn on my comp to load up xp i get to the part where its verifying dmi pool data and then i get this messaga "NTLDR is missing" please restart. What is NTLDR and what is causing this to happen?
 
Seriously, that's a load of sh1t. Obviously in the 6-7 months you've been here m21s you haven't figured out this is a hardware site and people ask questions ranging from the basics to the advanced stuff. Don't be a douche. Chances are you probably don't know how to fix it/what it means yourself which is why you told him to Google it. Douche. /rant

Anyway, when I started getting NTLDR is missing I ended up having to reformat. I dunno if you ALWAYS have to do that but someone from these forums who helped me rather than being a dick told me it could be bad sectors and that a reformat should fix it.

Edit: I should add that before reformatting based on what I said you should look into it more and see if there's any other way around it. That or set it as a slave and boot from another drive to see if you can get your data from it.
 
Originally posted by: cpmer
I am trying load up xp on a a seagate 160 gig hd on abit AV8 motheboard. I got the latest verison of bios on it. The hd is ony primary master with nothing on the slave. The jumper setting is for master. When i turn on my comp to load up xp i get to the part where its verifying dmi pool data and then i get this messaga "NTLDR is missing" please restart. What is NTLDR and what is causing this to happen?
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Let me see if I have understood correctly: You are trying to load XP onto the drive which is bare...

What is happening is the PC is trying to boot from the hard disk that doesn't have an OS installed yet so it doesn't have the NTLDR yet either. NTLDR is the NT Loader for the operating system by the way. If you were booting from the Windows XP CD you wouldn't see this message. You would also get this message if you were set to boot from the floppy disk first and had an unbootable floppy disk in the drive.

Do this: Make sure the system is set up to boot from the CD Drive first then boot and go through the windows installation. It should work fine. Sometimes you have to watch for a screen message that states " To boot from CD press any key ".

Let us know what happens.

pcgeek11

 
Hi, I don't remember where I read it, but it worked for me once. The trick was to make an empty file named NTLDR in the root of the boot drive. Supposedly it will trick the install and get it going. Hope this helps, Jim
 
Originally posted by: aplefka
Seriously, that's a load of sh1t. Obviously in the 6-7 months you've been here m21s you haven't figured out this is a hardware site and people ask questions ranging from the basics to the advanced stuff. Don't be a douche. Chances are you probably don't know how to fix it/what it means yourself which is why you told him to Google it. Douche. /rant

Anyway, when I started getting NTLDR is missing I ended up having to reformat. I dunno if you ALWAYS have to do that but someone from these forums who helped me rather than being a dick told me it could be bad sectors and that a reformat should fix it.

Edit: I should add that before reformatting based on what I said you should look into it more and see if there's any other way around it. That or set it as a slave and boot from another drive to see if you can get your data from it.
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Well, he posted an answer to the question, and a good one by the look of it. Did you click the link? Or just blow up without knowing whats going on?
Perhaps you need a bit less caffine and a bit more fibre in your diet?
 
whenever I get that error it has to do with the HDD with the windows files on it not being in the right 'place'...try booting with just the main one and see if windows loads right. Unless you are getting some blue screen...I dont think you have to reinstall
 
Actually, this is not a hardware question or solution - this thread should be moved to the OS forum. However, . . . for Windows XP users:-

Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer.
When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.
Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows.
Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.
You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password.
Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter "E". This letter may be different on your computer.

copy e:\i386\ntldr c:
copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:


Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot.
 
put in ur xp cd, let it load to the point where it shows ur windows partition and installation and then press R to repair it, doing so puts on all the files needed to get windows up and running again without changing anything.
 
I agree with pcgeek11 stating the system is attempting to boot from the bare hard drive. The boot order needs to be changed to boot from the cdrom in order to install the system from a cdrom.
 
Originally posted by: corkyg
Actually, this is not a hardware question or solution - this thread should be moved to the OS forum. However, . . . for Windows XP users:-

Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer.
When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.
Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows.
Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.
You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password.
Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter "E". This letter may be different on your computer.

copy e:\i386\ntldr c:
copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:


Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot.
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Wow that's an awesome answer. I 've had this problem before, and I just ended up reformatting my whole drive.
 
Originally posted by: aplefka
Seriously, that's a load of sh1t. Obviously in the 6-7 months you've been here m21s you haven't figured out this is a hardware site and people ask questions ranging from the basics to the advanced stuff. Don't be a douche. Chances are you probably don't know how to fix it/what it means yourself which is why you told him to Google it. Douche. /rant
.
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You know if you want to wait maybe a whole day for an answer then yes COME HERE AND POST A QUESTION!
He was asking a simpple question "What is NTLDR and what is causing this to happen?"
To me a simple GOOGLE search would have given him his answer in oh maybe 1 second...

Sounds like your anti-google...your the douche here!

BTW - It took 12 hours for him to get his answer

"Actually, this is not a hardware question or solution - this thread should be moved to the OS forum. However, . . . for Windows XP users:-

Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer.
When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.
Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows.
Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.
You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password.
Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter "E". This letter may be different on your computer.

copy e:\i386\ntldr c:
copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:


Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot. "

I just found this EXACT answer on google in 12 seconds of searching...LOL

Amazing! people need to learn to use the INTERNET MORE! So much info at your finger tips..and people just dont know how to find it sometimes...what a shame..:disgust:
 
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but he doesn't have Windows installed yet, but has a botched installation looking for NTLDR trying to boot from the HD instead of the CD.

If he needs to repair a system that is already installed corkyg is correct.

pcgeek11
 
Originally posted by: pcgeek11
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but he doesn't have Windows installed yet, but has a botched installation looking for NTLDR trying to boot from the HD instead of the CD.

If he needs to repair a system that is already installed corkyg is correct.

pcgeek11
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I agree, he seems to say he has no O/S installed - installing fresh. If so the only way to get a NT(boot))loader error is if he has SATA/PATA enabled for drive booting that no longer exists, or this drive HAD/HAS a previous install on it. The boot.ini, MBR SOMEWHERE is not reflecting the correct current partition/OS config.
The only way one can possibly have a bootloader error with a cleanly formatted primary partitioned master drive that is enabled in bios as first boot device "C" (and no other)(while installing XP) is if there is bad RAM stick or bad sector on HDD.
Best to run the HDD manuf test prog, memtest 86, scandisk from win98 boot disc
When desperate, one can start a win98 install to root partition (98 has no ntdetect.com or ntldr), THEN install XP which will add these.
Also, adding a PATA drive to a previous SATA system will jumble drive letter assignments - PATA has precedent.

http://www.techimo.com/forum/t37563.html

Edit:
Guy on anoithet thread here fixed his similar prob by NOT USING A USB KEYBOARD!!!!!





 
I am having the same problem. I just installed windows. just installed all my drivers...it runs fine as long as I have a cd in the drive so it can detect a cd there that will ask me if I wish to boot from it. as long as I don't choose to boot from it, it goes right in to windows but if the cd is out of the tray, I'm S.O.L. and it says that NTLDR is Missing. This is very frustrating. I tried copying those 2 files from my cd and no help. the files were the exact same size and modified on the exact same dates when it was comparing them when it had asked me if I wished to override them. I only have a USB keyboard therfore I cannot try the installation without. it recognized the keyboard fine for the installation so I am stumped at this point. I had to buy a new hard drive just to install windows cuz I lost the drivers disk for my SATA drive and now I'm up S**T's creek without a paddle cuz I don't wanna have to remember to put a freaking windows or my motherboard drivers disk in there EVERY time I want to start up my computer. that's freaking rediculous. wouldn't be so bad if I had 2 drives but one quit on me reicently. I need a real answer here and I have yet to find a diecent one.

EDIT: I also have a seagate hard drive...maybe this is a flaw in them? it's only an 80 gig tho. I will check the website and post an update if I find anything but doubtful. maybe it's a flaw in the seagate hardware or maybe you actually have to format with the seagate software just to get a good boot record. I know maxtors had that problem
 
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