NTFS = Jesus on a hard drive

[Nothinman]

NWFS and NSS volumes own NTFS volumes anyday

Too bad Novell's marketing team couldn't sell Jello to Bill Cosby...

My company has quite a few NetWare boxes, all the way from 3.X up to 5.X, but the only reason we use it is because of a few zealous people (one being one of our IS directors). We have NDS because he likes it, but we're implementing AD because we need it and too many things in the future rely on it. Noone will convince him of it, but running NDS along side AD is just stupid and since AD is practically a necessity (and will definatly be in the future) we should ditch NDS and move on.

Personally I think Novell has some really good software and I'd rather run it over whatever MS has any day, but the sad thing is noone even knows Novell still exists except the people currently using it, Novell spends all their marketing cash preaching to the choir. Novell is going the way of Be, good software with a loyal following that can't get any new users. Most of the people looking for MS alternatives go to Linux or commercial unix, and with the way things look I'd feel safer support-wise running Linux over NetWare.

 

[KingofFah]

DoomGL and Quake run fine on my 2K pro boot

 

[GigaCluster]

Get ReiserFS + Linux 2.4.20 if you haven't!

(Heh, beats your NTFS.)

 

[kreno]

lol, yeah yeah yeah... but with Linux you have to have a background in working a damned mainframe to get it working j/k

I have played with Linux... but for my uses Win2K works great... the linux FS system works awesome though... doesn't even fragment... I don't know how the hell they did that... but that's cool stuffs

 

[NokiaDude]

Hey guys, I just converted my FAT32 WD 40GB HDD to NTFS. It was quick and didn't do any damage and it is faster!

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Yield

get win xp + ntfs now if you haven't

get win2k and nfts!

i like xp more

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Rand

Originally posted by: kreno
Win2K is the best OS that MS ever put out I think... XP is good, but it's basically a more resource intensive version of 2K with some extra cosmetic features and a neato skinning thinger...

Agreed... though for home usage I rather prefer the attractive GUI and few extra conveniences of WinXP.
On a workstation or Server I'd take Win2k though most definitely.
Novell still rules for X86 Servers though... just IMHO.

but isnt that what makes it so much better? yes, it is.

 

[Nothinman]

Get ReiserFS + Linux 2.4.20 if you haven't!

I prefer XFS (the reiserfs dev team's tactics scare me) and 2.4.20 hangs when it initializes my 29160N controller which happens to be controlling all my hard disks. Luckily 2.4.19 is working well, I'll figure it out eventually.

edit: figured it out. Apparently 'AMD 76x native power management (Experimental)' doesn't play nice with my dual Athlon setup.

the linux FS system works awesome though... doesn't even fragment... I don't know how the hell they did that... but that's cool stuffs

There are many filesystems available on Linux, but yes in general fragmentation isn't a big problem. All it takes is an intelligent allocation algorithm in the filesystem driver, something I'm sure MS could do if they didn't need to help Symantec and Excutive Soft sell defragmenters.

 

[spamsk8r]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

NWFS and NSS volumes own NTFS volumes anyday

Too bad Novell's marketing team couldn't sell Jello to Bill Cosby...

LOL!

 

[orion7144]

XP all the way over 6 months with no crashes and is on 24X7.

 

[NorthenLove]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Get ReiserFS + Linux 2.4.20 if you haven't!

I prefer XFS (the reiserfs dev team's tactics scare me) and 2.4.20 hangs when it initializes my 29160N controller which happens to be controlling all my hard disks. Luckily 2.4.19 is working well, I'll figure it out eventually.

edit: figured it out. Apparently 'AMD 76x native power management (Experimental)' doesn't play nice with my dual Athlon setup.

Doesn't XFS have issues with data recovery when the brown stuff hits the fan, is this true ? Or atleast thats what I have heard and thats one of the reasons I went with ReiserFS instead XFS.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: NorthenLove

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Get ReiserFS + Linux 2.4.20 if you haven't!

I prefer XFS (the reiserfs dev team's tactics scare me) and 2.4.20 hangs when it initializes my 29160N controller which happens to be controlling all my hard disks. Luckily 2.4.19 is working well, I'll figure it out eventually.

edit: figured it out. Apparently 'AMD 76x native power management (Experimental)' doesn't play nice with my dual Athlon setup.

Doesn't XFS have issues with data recovery when the brown stuff hits the fan, is this true ? Or atleast thats what I have heard and thats one of the reasons I went with ReiserFS instead XFS.

I haven't used XFS a whole lot(we run Ext3 on all our prod boxes since that's whats supported officially by RedHat), but on the boxes I run it on, I've never had this problem.
I run XFS on my workstation though, and it's had it's share of ungraceful shutdowns, mostly does to people yanking it's power by mistake, and recovery has never been a problem.

 

[Nothinman]

Doesn't XFS have issues with data recovery when the brown stuff hits the fan, is this true ?

The only issue I can think of is that most pre-built recovery disks don't support it, but it's not too hard to put your own kernel and XFS utils on one of them. In all my time using it, since the 1.0 release, I've only had 1 time where it wouldn't boot after a clean shutdown and that was fixed by booting a rescue disk that does support it and running xfs_repair on the volume, and that was quite a while ago.

Or atleast thats what I have heard and thats one of the reasons I went with ReiserFS instead XFS.

I used to use reiserfs, but they don't seem to have any idea what they want the product to do. 3.5->3.6 had on disk structure changes and now 4.0 is a total rewrite, fast development is cool but not when my data is on the line. I think it'll be really cool once they figure out what they want, but right now it seems to be in a huge state of flux which for a filesystem is just scarey.

 

[Sunner]

I agree on that, ReiserFS is an interesting project, and I'd love to see it produce something great, but Im no fan of "revolutionary development", I much prefer the evolutionary aproach.

 

[Nothinman]

I agree on that, ReiserFS is an interesting project, and I'd love to see it produce something great, but Im no fan of "revolutionary development", I much prefer the evolutionary aproach.

A revolution wouldn't be so bad if they'd pick one and run with it, but they seem to change their minds every 6 months.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I agree on that, ReiserFS is an interesting project, and I'd love to see it produce something great, but Im no fan of "revolutionary development", I much prefer the evolutionary aproach.

A revolution wouldn't be so bad if they'd pick one and run with it, but they seem to change their minds every 6 months.

Pretty much what I meant, I guess the first time you do something new it's always revolutionary by definition, but if you do it once and build a foundation, then work on that foundation, it'll be evolutionary from that point on, which is what I meant

Rather than make something new, fix it for a while, then make something else, fix it for a while, then something new again, and so on, which would be what I define as a "revolutionary process".

 

[Nothinman]

Rather than make something new, fix it for a while, then make something else, fix it for a while, then something new again, and so on, which would be what I define as a "revolutionary process".

I would define that as A.D.D., but ok =)

 

[Flatline]

Nothinman, it's a good thing I read your post above...I am going to (finally) install my 29160 today and I run Reiser on 2.4.20; you may have saved me some time.

 

[Nothinman]

Nothinman, it's a good thing I read your post above...I am going to (finally) install my 29160 today and I run Reiser on 2.4.20; you may have saved me some time.

I don't know if it's aic7xxx specific or not, honestly I'd probably blame the AMD chipset on my motherboard first, but who knows. It's really more of a testament that things labled EXPERIMENTAL might not work right =)

 

[Haden]

NTFS is best thing you can use on win...
there's not so much to choose from

 

[Nothinman]

NTFS is best thing you can use on win...
there's not so much to choose from ;p

That's the great thing about Linux, choice, something which is severely limited on the Windows side.