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[StattlichPassat]

Illegal actions eh? Hmm I rolled a stop sign today, thats illegal, guess I am slime. Oh and the other day I saw a little kid jay walk, guess hes slime too. If the guy is shooting heroine or doing something rather serious then I can see your concern. However if like you said he doesn't smoke in your room or doesn't hurt anyone/damage anything then I would leave him be. It's his life. Again the whole "people who use drugs are evil people" gets a little old.

Good for you. FYI, I'm probably the worst speeder on this entire board, but that doesn't make me slime. Not always anyway. The illegal actions I'm talking about here are DRUGS. Serious illegal actions. Not rolling through stop signs.

What's the difference between him shooting heroine and weed? He's doing illegal drugs and openly admits it. Drugs are drugs. Yes it's his life, and all people who use drugs may not all be 'evil', but they sure as hell aren't saints.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: DeadHead
Q]
He said that he's going to stop doing that stuff, but from what I've heard, that's a lot easier said than done.

I do have a kind, soft heart. I just don't tolerate illegal actions and the kind of slime people who do them. My roommate and his friends are pretty despicable.

That stuff is not addictive. Mentally, it can be to some people. To call his actions stupid is your opinion, you just made the situation worse by cursing what he does in the time off campus. He probably thinks your a stuck up asshole hes got to be careful around because you might tadle. I don't know why I am getting so angy, probably since you were wondering if you can get him kicked out for smoking. I would have said something like "Hey, do what you want in your time, just don't bother me stoned, or get stoned around me." Give the guy a chance and don't consider him despicable because he smokes pot.[/quote]

Not a surprising reply given your nick and avitar.

 

[HamSupLo]

i'd hate to get a roomate like you...always getting into other people's business. Paranoid Schizo.....

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
WEED....man....ITS JUST WEED!

You think there's nothing wrong with it? It's DRUGS... man... DRUGS.

My gosh, are you all idiots? I think all the sane people are asleep- I'll have to bump the thread during daylight hours tomorrow.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Originally posted by: jooksing
i'd hate to get a roomate like you...always getting into other people's business. Paranoid Schizo.....

Right. I'm a schizophrenic. Fvsk off.

 

[DeadHead]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI

Illegal actions eh? Hmm I rolled a stop sign today, thats illegal, guess I am slime. Oh and the other day I saw a little kid jay walk, guess hes slime too. If the guy is shooting heroine or doing something rather serious then I can see your concern. However if like you said he doesn't smoke in your room or doesn't hurt anyone/damage anything then I would leave him be. It's his life. Again the whole "people who use drugs are evil people" gets a little old.

Good for you. FYI, I'm probably the worst speeder on this entire board, but that doesn't make me slime. Not always anyway. The illegal actions I'm talking about here are DRUGS. Serious illegal actions. Not rolling through stop signs.

What's the difference between him shooting heroine and weed? He's doing illegal drugs and openly admits it. Drugs are drugs. Yes it's his life, and all people who use drugs may not all be 'evil', but they sure as hell aren't saints.

Lol, I could respond to everyone of these posts but here I go again....

I constantly go out of my way to help people around me. It sounds like BS the way I am talking now, but as a personal goal for myself I want to become not lazy AT ALL. So when someone asks me for a hand in anything its always ok. Someone needs to barrow a buck, I'll GIVE them a buck. Whats this have to do with your roomate problem. Well, I smoke weed and I am not evil. I am no saint, but from reading this thread I am starting to think I am on a higher pedestal then a person who hopes his roomate gets kicked out for smoking.

 

[Rainsford]

Here's my view on roomies. You are not their parents, you are not their older brother/sister, you are not their case officer, you are not their guardian angel. If he is not doing anything that hurts you, then just leave it alone. That doesn't mean you shouldn't care about him, I would certainly try to talk with him if you believe he is doing something that will end badly for him, but if he doesn't want to listen he doesn't have to. I had a roomate that did some pretty stupid stuff, and the only reason I don't live with him any more was because his stupid stuff was affecting me.

Look, there are lots of people out there that will offend you with their choices about life, get the fu** over it. You want to get him kicked out of college and possibly ruin his future because you don't agree with his choice to smoke pot, a choice that affects no one but himself, certainly not you. If it was something that affected you in a negative way or was going to cause serious harm to himself or others, you should try and do something. But that is not the case. I personally think you just have a problem with people who don't think and act exactly like you, and unless you plan on living in a cave, the sooner you get over it, the better.

 

[aolsuxs]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI

Originally posted by: pg19

My roommate smokes marijuana! Cripes! They got the room number and might search our room at any time. But I don't care about that- I just can't believe my roommate...does weed.

I'm speechless....really, I am . It sounds so fake...yet, you know it's real...ahahaahah

Just what is so amusing about that? If you don't have any words of encouragement, advice, or CONSTRUCTIVE critisism, then get out of my thread.

Your getting quite worked up, over nothing. Relax. Go read a book, jog, play starcraft, kill a kitten, whatever, seriously chill.

Good for you. FYI, I'm probably the worst speeder on this entire board, but that doesn't make me slime. Not always anyway. The illegal actions I'm talking about here are DRUGS. Serious illegal actions. Not rolling through stop signs.

What's the difference between him shooting heroine and weed? He's doing illegal drugs and openly admits it. Drugs are drugs. Yes it's his life, and all people who use drugs may not all be 'evil', but they sure as hell aren't saints.

Well ya didn't mention specifically what illegal actions you were talking about and who are you to define the serious of an illegal action?

Theres quite a big difference between heroine and weed. Perhaps a refreasher course in DARE might help. Whats the one movie that came out a while ago...Requiem for a Dream. I reccommend you see that. Once again to reiterate, Heroine and weed, two different things were talking about here. Sure as hell aren't saint's? HOW MANY OF US ARE SAINTS regardless of drug usage or not? You've never told a lie? Never made any bad comments, no negative thoughts of anyone. If so your a liar or a better person then I am. I am an occasional weed smoker which would explain my stance on this issue. I am sure as hell not evil. 3.7 GPA in HS, volunteered at Ronald McDonald House, Sec of Honor Society, etc etc. Sterotypes suck don't they?

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
WEED....man....ITS JUST WEED!

You think there's nothing wrong with it? It's DRUGS... man... DRUGS.

My gosh, are you all idiots? I think all the sane people are asleep- I'll have to bump the thread during daylight hours tomorrow.

So I guess you don't use alcohol, tobacco or religion at all? Either you are using drugs too, and worse ones than weed. As you never noticed anything about him apparently it doesn't affect him or his ability to act much. He probably will already have noticed that you spend 90% of tyour live behind a computer, how about doing something about that?

Edit: As far as I know the casual user of weed can stop easily, unlike the casual smoker or the casual ATOT visitor.

 

[DeadHead]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Here's my view on roomies. You are not their parents, you are not their older brother/sister, you are not their case officer, you are not their guardian angel. If he is not doing anything that hurts you, then just leave it alone. That doesn't mean you shouldn't care about him, I would certainly try to talk with him if you believe he is doing something that will end badly for him, but if he doesn't want to listen he doesn't have to. I had a roomate that did some pretty stupid stuff, and the only reason I don't live with him any more was because his stupid stuff was affecting me.

Look, there are lots of people out there that will offend you with their choices about life, get the fu** over it. You want to get him kicked out of college and possibly ruin his future because you don't agree with his choice to smoke pot, a choice that affects no one but himself, certainly not you. If it was something that affected you in a negative way or was going to cause serious harm to himself or others, you should try and do something. But that is not the case. I personally think you just have a problem with people who don't think and act exactly like you, and unless you plan on living in a cave, the sooner you get over it, the better.

Exactly what I was thinking, I just suck at english. I probably sound like an ass trying to say something meaning the same. Oh you keep saying DRUGS... DRUGS people. Alcohol is a much more dangerous drug then weed is. Just because its illegal doesn't make anymore of a serious problem then rolling past a stop sign.

 

[StattlichPassat]

Well, I smoke weed and I am not evil. I am no saint, but from reading this thread I am starting to think I am on a higher pedestal then a person who hopes his roomate gets kicked out for smoking.

That'll be the day. Physical drug use vs. a thought.

May I make a THIRD reference to a quote in this thread, for those of you who can't read, or who just prefer to glance at the title, scroll down, and bash me:

I'm not going to get him kicked out- just pissed off at him right now. I wouldn't be sad if it happened coincidentally though.

 

[Palek]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
Sorry, I should have mentioned it. I talked with him for a good hour about all this today, and before thoughts even crossed my head about anything else, I talked to him and told him how I felt. Yes, I called him and his actions stupid, point blank. But I also said he's wasting his life away and he just kept using a "personal thing" excuse. The conversation was never heated in the least bit, we just talked. He said that he's going to stop doing that stuff, but from what I've heard, that's a lot easier said than done.

I do have a kind, soft heart. I just don't tolerate illegal actions and the kind of slime people who do them. My roommate and his friends are pretty despicable.

While I can understand the reason for your disgust toward drug (ab)users, I think you really are overreacting in this case. You are right to be concerned, drugs do get people hooked much faster than other addictive substances, but your roommate does sound like he is not at the junkie stage just yet. You've talked to him, that's a very good thing, it shows him you care about his well-being. Next time you see a pamphlet on drug abuse, you might want to pick it up and give it to him. And if you do notice signs of him becoming an addict, then it will be your time to take more radical steps to stop him from flushing his life down the pipe.

As for not tolerating illegal actions and calling people slime, read my sig.
<EDIT>In light of your post about speeding versus pot:
Read my sig!!! It applies to you more than you (obviously) think.</EDIT>

 

[aolsuxs]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Here's my view on roomies. You are not their parents, you are not their older brother/sister, you are not their case officer, you are not their guardian angel. If he is not doing anything that hurts you, then just leave it alone. That doesn't mean you shouldn't care about him, I would certainly try to talk with him if you believe he is doing something that will end badly for him, but if he doesn't want to listen he doesn't have to. I had a roomate that did some pretty stupid stuff, and the only reason I don't live with him any more was because his stupid stuff was affecting me.

Look, there are lots of people out there that will offend you with their choices about life, get the fu** over it. You want to get him kicked out of college and possibly ruin his future because you don't agree with his choice to smoke pot, a choice that affects no one but himself, certainly not you. If it was something that affected you in a negative way or was going to cause serious harm to himself or others, you should try and do something. But that is not the case. I personally think you just have a problem with people who don't think and act exactly like you, and unless you plan on living in a cave, the sooner you get over it, the better.

Very very well said. Anyways I think I am following this thread to much. I am going to play a round of Madden/WC or something of another and check back in a few, gotta love the replies lol

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

WHO THE HELL CARES IF ITS "JUST WEED"?

It's freakin illegal, and that could get NFGTI'S ROOM RAIDED, and that's NOT COOL.
Any roommate that can't even disguise his pot smoking well enough to avoid a potetial RAID isn't cool :|

fvck 'im :disgust:

 

[amnesiac]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI

Illegal actions eh? Hmm I rolled a stop sign today, thats illegal, guess I am slime. Oh and the other day I saw a little kid jay walk, guess hes slime too. If the guy is shooting heroine or doing something rather serious then I can see your concern. However if like you said he doesn't smoke in your room or doesn't hurt anyone/damage anything then I would leave him be. It's his life. Again the whole "people who use drugs are evil people" gets a little old.

Good for you. FYI, I'm probably the worst speeder on this entire board, but that doesn't make me slime. Not always anyway. The illegal actions I'm talking about here are DRUGS. Serious illegal actions. Not rolling through stop signs.

What's the difference between him shooting heroine and weed? He's doing illegal drugs and openly admits it. Drugs are drugs. Yes it's his life, and all people who use drugs may not all be 'evil', but they sure as hell aren't saints.

Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. You want to look into WHY weed is illegal before you criticize it.
For God's sake, BLOWJOBS are illegal in Utah as well as a few other states. I guess that makes it BAD, and the people who do it, SLIME.
Heh, interestingly enough, the penalties for that are the same as pot smoking. 6 months / $1000. So they're equally as bad.

In California, the penalty for having < 28g is about the same as a traffic ticket, $100, with no marks on the record. Damn, it must be a bad, evil thing.

Weed has been illegal because it was originally considered an economic threat. The rampant outcry about weed smokers being psychotics is pure propaganda to support an irrational and greedy decision made 50 years ago. Research has found more evidence towards marijuana being a positive influence than having negative side effects.

For the record, I don't smoke. At all. I just look at both sides of the argument, and I have plenty of friends who smoke who are completely normal people. In fact, some of which are the smartest people I know.

 

[StattlichPassat]

I'm just going to file this thread away into the 'Meaningless Bunk' archives since 80% of the respondees are weed smokers themselves. Bias? Nahhhhh...

 

[pg22]

You know what I would do to bolster your case against your roomate? When you go to turn him in, in addition to his weed, grab his illicit mp3's! Just imagine if your school's paper got a whiff of this!! A student infecting his peers with weed and mp3's.....a college kid no less. Who would have thunk it?!?!

Just be prepared....this may shake our school's collegiant fundamentals to its core

 

[BamBam215]

I had a room mate who was a lot worse than you. Now this guy was a total junkie, but he was a harmless one (actually I think the SOB did better than me one semester GPA wise). Hell... he even started rolling tobacco into his joints so he didn't have to smoke cigarettes after a joint (I hear it increases the effects somehow). Also a messy slob who never cleaned up until the day he moved out.

But hell... my other room mate and I were cool about it. We both told him that as long as he did it in his own private time outside of the room.. we didn't give a damn. It sounds like to me like you're trying to preach your beliefs on someone else. It's his life... if he decides to f*ck it up... that's his problem, but nobody made you his saint, or his mommy for that matter. Luckily after one semester of probation... my room mate finally realized that going to class was more important than laying on his bed playing with a zippo lighter for hours.

Who knows... maybe your roommate will straighten up, but it's good that you talked to him without raising your voice, and I hope that he got the message.

 

[pg22]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
I'm just going to file this thread away into the 'Meaningless Bunk' archives since 80% of the respondees are weed smokers themselves. Bias? Nahhhhh...

Quickly dismissing the alternative because it runs counter to your beliefs is a fantastic way of rationalizing the rest of your life! Did you learn this exemplary character trait in college or was it in you as a wee lass?

 

[SuepaFly]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
WEED....man....ITS JUST WEED!

You think there's nothing wrong with it? It's DRUGS... man... DRUGS.

My gosh, are you all idiots? I think all the sane people are asleep- I'll have to bump the thread during daylight hours tomorrow.

I think maybe you should consider that something might be wrong with your thinking if you believe the everyone replying are morons if they are saying the same thing. Yeah, the public can be morons, but unless you're some modern day Dante or Keirkegaard with some break through ideas it's smart to stop and take a look around every once in a while.

I've heard some really messed up roommate stories in my day, and this doesn't even compare.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
I'm just going to file this thread away into the 'Meaningless Bunk' archives since 80% of the respondees are weed smokers themselves. Bias? Nahhhhh...

Aw... poor you, didn't people agree with your anal point of view?

I have never smoked anything in my life, and don't plan on doing so either. Only drug I've ever used was alcohol, and I stopped doing that too. Speeding is illegal too, I guess you want the death penalty for people who drive too fast?

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

I hate closed minded people like NightFlyerGTI.

 

[DeadHead]

Originally posted by: NightFlyerGTI
Is there a way to use all of this information he so candidly spilled out to me this evening to get him kicked out of school?
EDIT 2: Changed the title to fit the thread better.

I can see your worked up and I am not trying to rank on your or anything. Now earlier you basically called me an idiot for refering to you wanting him to get kicked out. This is what the intial post said. To me (and obviously everyone else in this "hijacked" thread) think you wanted to aid him getting kicked out by what he told you. Your obviously never been exposed to the millions of people who do smoke, and by getting to know the guy before labeling it MIGHT let you see its really not that bad. Just don't label the guy like you already label all of us me especially (you mention my name). Open up to other lifestyles for a little bit.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n1
WHO THE HELL CARES IF ITS "JUST WEED"?

It's freakin illegal, and that could get NFGTI'S ROOM RAIDED, and that's NOT COOL.
Any roommate that can't even disguise his pot smoking well enough to avoid a potetial RAID isn't cool :|

fvck 'im :disgust:

nobody wants to challenge my statement? figures...

 

[Amused]

I'd get rid of him as soon as possible, not because I'm morally against smoking pot (I'm not), nor because I agree with our drug laws (I don't) but because of the legal ramifications.

What people here are failing to recognize is the way the police and courts treat drug cases. If he were to be caught with any significant amount of pot on him, the police can and more than likely will seize any and all possessions in his place of residence. It matters not who's possessions they are. It will then be up to NightFlyer to prove, through court, what possessions are his, and that he was not involved in the drugs. In short, because of our oppressive drug law enforcement, NightFlyer will be guilty until proven innocent... or more to the point, his property will.

I'll bet money a lot of the people getting on his case in this thread still live at home with their parents. Did you know if you were caught with a signifigant amount of drugs in your parent's house, the DA could have your parent's house, cars, bank accounts and all property seized? They can protest all they want, but they wont get a thing back until they get a lawyer and fight the seizure in court.

Let me reiterate that I am 100% opposed to the War on Drugs. But in the atmosphere that exists today, I would not allow a drug user to live with me. I have too much to lose and I'm not willing to take the time and money required to get it back.