NRA issues threatening video warning journalists 'your time is running out'

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They, like most other activist organizations, have been co opted by the most extreme. (Think: Sierra Club)

They have an undue influence using industry money to buy and threaten politicians.

This makes them powerful. More powerful than simply an activist organization, they are an industry lobby as well. And power corrupts. The NRA is now irrevocably corrupted by fanaticism and power.

Make them illegal? No. Strip them of industry funding? Yes. Use our own First Amendment rights to tear them down? Absolutely. They are doing a fairly good job of it themselves with NRA TV through. What only fanatical members were exposed to, is now widely available to everyone. And the bat shit insanity of it doesn't air well out in the open.
I disagree, they represent the views and opinions of the people (such as myself) that belong to their organisation.
 

Younigue

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Answered once, but not again until you tell me if you put on your big boy panties.
Holy Shit @mikeymikec he's obsessed with your "boy" panties. Geezuz Cries-t Taj! What else are you suggesting you'd like to do with [male] children. Why are [male] children's underwear such an obsession of yours? You sick prick!
 

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I disagree, they represent the views and opinions of the people (such as myself) that belong to their organisation.

No, they represent extremism and an industry. They feed industry propaganda to their members and program them into what to fear, hate and loathe.
 
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BTW, you're speaking to a former NRA member who left in the mid 90s because of their bat shit insanity. I dare say, what used to be a grass roots gun safety and education organization is now an extremist organization funded for the most part by an industry, not it's members.
 
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http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1

While that is still part of the organization's core function, today less than half of the NRA's revenues come from program fees and membership dues.

The bulk of the group's money now comes in the form of contributions, grants, royalty income, and advertising, much of it originating from gun industry sources.​

Today's NRA members are duped tools programmed by an industry lobby rather than the NRA being a reflection of its members.

This is why I left the NRA in the mid 90s. They are now an extremist group and industry lobby.
 
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I disagree, they represent the views and opinions of the people (such as myself) that belong to their organisation.
Oh how naive of you little boy. They exist to represent the gun manufactures. People like you are pawns to them.

Peoples evidence 1, 2 and 3
poll done in January 2013 by two entities at Johns Hopkins University -- the Department of Health Policy and Management and the Center for Gun Policy and Research. The poll was conducted online among 2,703 adults -- including 169 NRA members -- through GfK Knowledge Networks, which specializes in working with academic and government researchers to do polling online. It recruits participants randomly via mail and telephone. The poll found that 74 percent (to be precise, 73.7 percent) of NRA members supported requiring background checks for all gun sales.
A CBS News/New York Times poll, also from January 2013, found that background checks on all potential gun buyers were favored by 85 percent of NRA households. And a February 2013 poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that 74 percent of people in NRA households favored making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks.
Taylor said polling shows that nearly 74 percent of National Rifle Association members "support requiring background checks for all gun sales."
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...ra-members-back-background-checks-all-gun-pu/
 

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So the amazing thing here is, you see no problem with an activist organization funded more as an industry lobby telling it's members what to think rather than grassroots member activism it claims to be.

This makes you a tool. A useful idiot.
 
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I like gun manufacturers. I approve of the job they do. Why would I think they are some kind of evil enterprise? They do their jobs and they do them well, i just wish they would move all their plants to red states.
 
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So the amazing thing here is, you see no problem with an activist organization funded more as an industry lobby telling it's members what to think rather than grassroots member activism it claims to be.

This makes you a tool. A useful idiot.
yeah, yeah, got your opinion. Thanks. We all have them you know.
 

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I like gun manufacturers. I approve of the job they do. Why would I think they are some kind of evil enterprise? They do their jobs and they do them well, i just wish they would move all their plants to red states.

When I joined the NRA with my father, the NRA took no corporate money and prided itself in its independance from corporate influence.

Now, the lionshare of funding for the NRA comes from the industry and the industry runs the organization. The members are told what to think and What was a gun safety and training organization has become an extremist cult who are regularly programmed with irrational fear and loathing.

If you'd rather be an industry tool than a responsible citizen whose main purpose was gun safety and training, go ahead. The NRA of today is NOTHING like it was.

http://time.com/4431356/nra-gun-control-history/
 
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When I joined the NRA with my father, the NRA took no corporate money and prided itself in its independance from corporate influence.

Now, the lionshare of funding for the NRA comes from the industry and the industry runs the organization. The members are told what to think and What was a gun safety and training organization has become an extremist cult who are regularly programmed with irrational fear and loathing.

If you'd rather be an industry tool than a responsible citizen whose main purpose was gun safety and training, go ahead. The NRA of today is NOTHING like it was.

http://time.com/4431356/nra-gun-control-history/
I'm a responsible citizen which is exactly why I support the NRA, both financially and with my vote. I understand you have the mistaken belief that they are evil and wicked, but I disagree and will continue to support the 2nd Amendment and the NRA. I'm glad it's nothing like it was, if it hadn't changed then the left would have stripped us of our firearms and rights decades ago.
 

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Actually, I just asked how many NRA members have committed mass murders and you went somewhere else with it.

A person doesn't have to be a member to play into the madness.

The NRA has changed radically over the years. I was actually a member as a teenager back in the 60's, attained a sharpshooter rating for 22's at the range. It was all about safety, technique, accuracy, ballistics, target shooting, being a responsible hunter & having firearms skills in case you were called upon to serve. The guns in our house weren't loaded until we we at the range or in the field.

It wasn't about muh freedumb to own any kewl but stupid deadly pew-pew gun I wanted or about the paranoid hateful ravings of LaPierre or Loesch. It wasn't about the right wing culture war, about us vs them, about having guns to protect ourselves against "Them", whoever they are. Nobody talked about second amendment solutions or any of that bullshit, certainly not a Presidential candidate.

Leadership matters, and it's leadership from people like the NRA that has brought us here. It's nothing any of us should be proud of.
 

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When I joined the NRA with my father, the NRA took no corporate money and prided itself in its independance from corporate influence.

Now, the lionshare of funding for the NRA comes from the industry and the industry runs the organization. The members are told what to think and What was a gun safety and training organization has become an extremist cult who are regularly programmed with irrational fear and loathing.

If you'd rather be an industry tool than a responsible citizen whose main purpose was gun safety and training, go ahead. The NRA of today is NOTHING like it was.

http://time.com/4431356/nra-gun-control-history/


^ Lol! This whole stupid thread is just you being a duped tool after getting triggered by some absolute bullshit.

I realize your audience is a bunch of asshole leftists who eat up your efforts at fearmongering just as blindly as those you wet yourself over, but its actually pretty pathetic.

Got it... you don't like the NRA. Boo fucking hoo. You're as big of a duped toolbag over it as anyone you whine at.
 

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I'm a responsible citizen which is exactly why I support the NRA, both financially and with my vote. I understand you have the mistaken belief that they are evil and wicked, but I disagree and will continue to support the 2nd Amendment and the NRA. I'm glad it's nothing like it was, if it hadn't changed then the left would have stripped us of our firearms and rights decades ago.

That's the lie you were programmed to believe.

Fact: No mainstream effort has ever existed to take your firearms or rights. Simply control access to them.

Like I said. Useful idiot.
 
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^ Lol! This whole stupid thread is you being a duped tool after getting triggered by some absolute bullshit.

I realize your audience is a bunch of asshole leftists who eat up your efforts at fearmongering just as blindly as those you wet yourself over, but its actually pretty pathetic.

Got it... you don't like the NRA. Boo fucking hoo. You're as big of a duped toolbag over it as anyone you whine at.

No. This thread is about the irresponsible incitement to violence in advertising by an extremist organization funded not by its members, but by an industry.

It is possible to be a conservative and oppose the NRA while still supporting the 2nd Amendment. It is possible to not participate in group think. I know. I am conservative leaning independent. I'm also a gun owner.

It is not a requirement to join your side when they go bat shit insane.

You should try it.
 

Jhhnn

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^ Lol! This whole stupid thread is just you being a duped tool after getting triggered by some absolute bullshit.

I realize your audience is a bunch of asshole leftists who eat up your efforts at fearmongering just as blindly as those you wet yourself over, but its actually pretty pathetic.

Got it... you don't like the NRA. Boo fucking hoo. You're as big of a duped toolbag over it as anyone you whine at.

I don't like what they've done to America & to conservatives in general. They've had a lot of help, of course. It disturbs me that people goofy enough to make Trump President have the extreme firepower of a modern infantryman with some dark & stupid fantasies going along for the ride.
 
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That's the lie you were programmed to believe.

Fact: No mainstream effort has ever existed to take your firearms or rights. Simply control access to them.

Like I said. Useful idiot.
I have pro-gun friends in California that disagree and would be felons if they hadn't sent off/ sold off most of their firearms.
 

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^ Lol! This whole stupid thread is just you being a duped tool after getting triggered by some absolute bullshit.

I realize your audience is a bunch of asshole leftists who eat up your efforts at fearmongering just as blindly as those you wet yourself over, but its actually pretty pathetic.

Got it... you don't like the NRA. Boo fucking hoo. You're as big of a duped toolbag over it as anyone you whine at.

Poor triggered zaap. Always angry
 

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It's usually a good idea to consult with experts before you pass legislation.

No consultation. They are literally writing the bills and telling them when and how to pass them. It isn't just the NRA, obviously, but this is one of the more egregious examples. When you have a single crusty octogenarian, non term-limited lady in Florida that is basically writing and passing all of this legislation, you tend to recognize that we have a problem. You can't get elected without her approval. You can't get support as a legislator without her approval and her bills.

But then Florida, and republicans.

lol and besides: what the hell makes this lady an expert? "40 years of loving freedom!"? That's pretty much her claim to anything, whatever that is supposed to me. Oh, and "granddaddy taught me to shoot tin cans, and I hit the very first one!"

That's basically her career.
 
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zinfamous

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I disagree, they represent the views and opinions of the people (such as myself) that belong to their organisation.

The NRA is a fascist terrorist organization that feeds off of the blood of children and cares only for personal profits and instituting a theocratic, murder-fetish government to replace the democratically elected government of the USA.

You should stop supporting these anti-american terrorists, but it kinda makes sense because you do advocate bombing children running through tunnels.
 

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Holy Shit @mikeymikec he's obsessed with your "boy" panties. Geezuz Cries-t Taj! What else are you suggesting you'd like to do with [male] children. Why are [male] children's underwear such an obsession of yours? You sick prick!
All of this cross dressing talk sounds like an outake of the rocky horror picture show.