point taken but assault rifles would be given to anyone they deemed worthy. They have no need for top of the line military grade equipment to push a coup along. We're not talking first world countries.Anything legal to own in the US is a small civilian arm.
I'm prior and a vet. It's not about the opinion of the military but the people who control them. I'm not talking about some obvious coup. It all starts with the 'it's in your best interest and safety'.Go ask them. You obviously have a very low opinion of the intelligence and moral fiber of our military.
And predictions for society's doom have been around for almost as long as society itself. Usually from someone selling something. I have faith we can handle whatever challenges come our way, including climate change.
Yes there is. We have far larger number of gun in existence, we have the right to gun ownership guaranteed by our constitution and we were founded on the ideals that this is a free, democratic country. For better or worse, that is who we are as a country and culture.I know, I know, there is something amazingly special about the United States that means that what worked in every other country in the world won't work here.
I've said many times before that we don't need to repeal the 2A, all we need is to reinterpret it to it's original concept and make 'well regulated militia' an important requirement again.
So the reason the people shouldn't be armed is because you feel their constitutional rights and our democracy in general could be overthrown, but only slowly over time? I'm not sure what we are arguing here.point taken but assault rifles would be given to anyone they deemed worthy. They have no need for top of the line military grade equipment to push a coup along. We're not talking first world countries.
I'm prior and a vet. It's not about the opinion of the military but the people who control them. I'm not talking about some obvious coup. It all starts with the 'it's in your best interest and safety'.
You misunderstood me, I should have clarified, I'm against gun banning. I was just discussing your take on the how it would go down and why I'm against taking weapons away from those who can handle it as most pro gun banning think of it as FUD because 'history' means nothing I guess. "Tricked' isn't really the word I would use though.So the reason the people shouldn't be armed is because you feel their constitutional rights and our democracy in general could be overthrown, but only slowly over time? I'm not sure what we are arguing here.
It was suggest that it's ridiculous to keep arms as a final check on government tyranny. I strongly disagree. But now it's sounds like you are arguing that since the military wouldn't be on our side, and could be basically tricked into going along with a gradual end to democracy, that we should ban civilian gun ownership because it won't help anyway?
It feels like we are going in circles and productive debate has ended.
The National Rifle Association has shut down production at NRATV.
The N.R.A. on Tuesday also severed all business with its estranged advertising firm, Ackerman McQueen, which operates NRATV, the N.R.A.’s live broadcasting media arm, according to interviews and documents reviewed by The New York Times.
While NRATV may continue to air past content, its live broadcasting will end and its on-air personalities — Ackerman employees who included Dana Loesch — will no longer be the public faces of the N.R.A.
This is getting better and better.
That might actually be part of it. If you're used to voting for a party that never delivers meaningful tax cuts and social support to someone at your income level, what's donating to a bunch of corrupt, anti-democratic lobbyists, really?This is getting better and better.
Interesting there isn’t more outrage among conservatives that the organization they donated all that money to basically stole it and went shopping. This isn’t even particularly uncommon for right wing political organizations though so maybe that’s why?
How relevant is that in today's world? Guerrilla warefare exists, yes, not really in the USA, though.Actually having small arms did made the Resistance effective against Nazis during WWII. Why do you think the US went out of the way to provide them with to those fight them?
It served GOP purposes just fine. It just didn't reach as large an audience as they'd hoped for.NRA should have been shut down long ago. They were paying tens of millions of dollars a year and in January they had something like 49,000 unique visitors for the entire month.
Add to that the fact that of late most of their programming had nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment and was more right wing ranting about immigrants and everything else it served no purpose.
I like how your use of ellipses ignores the other part of these consitutional words that are pretty much quite relevant and provides further context and more meaning to the declared right. ...but this is the same NRA nutball tactic of reinterpreting the constitution that they have been doing for the last 30 or 40 years. Only these words matter! Not those others in that sentence!What about, "..the right of the people, to keep and bear arms."?