Now THIS is a DVR!

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: rh71
so basically record everything and index it... this is not a big deal.

So basically fly to Mars and set up a civilization there...no big deal.

Sounds like a piece of cake when you put it that way. Get back to us when you have completed either of these tasks.

how are you comparing the two ? Manned ship to Mars = never done before. Recording shows = not revolutionary. Bigger storage = not revolutionary. Seems like the next logical step for DVRs, but nothing "jaw-dropping" as the article describes. Again, this is not a big deal.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: rh71
so basically record everything and index it... this is not a big deal.

So basically fly to Mars and set up a civilization there...no big deal.

Sounds like a piece of cake when you put it that way. Get back to us when you have completed either of these tasks.

how are you comparing the two ? Manned ship to Mars = never done before. Recording shows = not revolutionary. Bigger storage = not revolutionary. Seems like the next logical step for DVRs, but nothing "jaw-dropping" as the article describes. Again, this is not a big deal.

Wow.

Put it this way: Send a small vehicle to mars. Been done. So it should be really no big deal to send one big enough to accomodate people.
Record one channel? Been done. So making something to record them all should be really easy. *yawn*

This takes an obscene amount of bandwidth.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: rh71
so basically record everything and index it... this is not a big deal.

So basically fly to Mars and set up a civilization there...no big deal.

Sounds like a piece of cake when you put it that way. Get back to us when you have completed either of these tasks.

how are you comparing the two ? Manned ship to Mars = never done before. Recording shows = not revolutionary. Bigger storage = not revolutionary. Seems like the next logical step for DVRs, but nothing "jaw-dropping" as the article describes. Again, this is not a big deal.

Wow.

Put it this way: Send a small vehicle to mars. Been done. So it should be really no big deal to send one big enough to accomodate people.
Record one channel? Been done. So making something to record them all should be really easy. *yawn*

This takes an obscene amount of bandwidth.

Mars is a big deal. A DVR is nowhere near the wow factor. The technology is already available... a matter of implementation / techniques. Still, it's the next logical step despite "bandwidth". It goes under: well that's not unexpected. In 1 sentence, I may be oversimplifying it but to throw a Mars analogy at it is not the same any way you word it.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: rh71
so basically record everything and index it... this is not a big deal.

So basically fly to Mars and set up a civilization there...no big deal.

Sounds like a piece of cake when you put it that way. Get back to us when you have completed either of these tasks.

how are you comparing the two ? Manned ship to Mars = never done before. Recording shows = not revolutionary. Bigger storage = not revolutionary. Seems like the next logical step for DVRs, but nothing "jaw-dropping" as the article describes. Again, this is not a big deal.

Wow.

Put it this way: Send a small vehicle to mars. Been done. So it should be really no big deal to send one big enough to accomodate people.
Record one channel? Been done. So making something to record them all should be really easy. *yawn*

This takes an obscene amount of bandwidth.

Mars is a big deal. A DVR is nowhere near the wow factor. The technology is already available... a matter of implementation / techniques. Still, it's the next logical step despite "bandwidth". It goes under: well that's not unexpected. In 1 sentence, I may be oversimplifying it but to throw a Mars analogy at it is not the same any way you word it.

You're right, a mars analogy is a poor one (and not originally mine) -- the point is, the leap is pretty huge, and to do it in a reasonably small space is impressive in the extreme.

Think about it. 3.2TB is probably 8 400GB drives, plust tuners for a BUNCH of channels, and hardware to encode those and move all that data in realtime...it's rather staggering, if you imagine what's inside a reasonably small box.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: tk149
The point of this thing is that you don't have to plan ahead. You don't have to pick which show to record in advance. You don't have to worry about forgetting to set the Tivo to record a certain show.

If you're completely anal, then no, you don't need this thing. But if you forget once in awhile, or if you miss seeing something on TV because you didn't know that it was going to be on, then this new recorder can be useful.

How many times have we seen people asking for vidcaps of something that was on Leno last night, or the fight that broke out during the NBA game, or the "wardrobe malfunction" during the halftime show?

No matter how you justify it there is going to be a LOT of crap on TV that you will NEVER have any desire to watch. A TIVO with 8 recorders and 3 terabytes of space would far outweigh any usefullness of this device (and that's for someone that watches a lot of television). IMO a current TIVO is worth more than it, I know what I want, I can set up season passes to watch what I want and the internet exists for those "clips" that I miss (I think that's happened twice in 5 years).

The functionality of a device that records everything is just assine. Not only is it going to cost a bloody fortune (and always will) it's going to spend 90% of it's time recording stuff that you will never watch, and all that recording space buys you one week of time shifting. I have close to year old recordings on my TIVO that I haven't gotten around to watching.

So just because you don't like it, you think it's a stupid idea. :roll:

It will not always "cost a bloody fortune." Think about how much 100 GB of drivespace cost 5 years ago.

Pardon the pun, but I don't think you're seeing the big picture here. How do you know that this machine (or others like it in the future) won't let you archive specific shows indefinitely? Does your TIVO have 8 recorders and 3 TB of space? This new machine exists right now.

I'm just surprised that this thing doesn't generate enough fan noise to drown out whatever's on the TV.

BTW, the word you're probably attempting to use is "asinine".

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: tk149
So just because you don't like it, you think it's a stupid idea. :roll:

Yea that's generally how opinions work. I think it's a stupid product so I think it's also a stupid idea. Are you suggesting that I'm not entitled to my opinion or that only you are allowed to have one?

Originally posted by: tk149
It will not always "cost a bloody fortune." Think about how much 100 GB of drivespace cost 5 years ago.

It needs 3TB of space for SDTV, it would need in excess of 18TB for HDTV and what will it need for the next standard or are you going to claim all television innovation ends with HDTV? Now who's being shortsideded.

Originally posted by: tk149
Pardon the pun, but I don't think you're seeing the big picture here. How do you know that this machine (or others like it in the future) won't let you archive specific shows indefinitely? Does your TIVO have 8 recorders and 3 TB of space? This new machine exists right now.

Who cares what it's capable of? Jesus, my direcTIVO has 2 tuners and 200gb of space and it spends 90% of it's time idling even with the 100+ suggestions it keeps continually recorded. There isn't that much interesting on TV that I can even put 2 tuners to full use and you think I'm going to have a use for something that records 50 channels of informercials? Get real.

Originally posted by: tk149
BTW, the word you're probably attempting to use is "asinine".

Let me be the first to welcome you to the internet.

 

[BigToque]

What I think would be a much better idea, would be for the NETWORKS to archive every movie and broadcast they put out on digital storage. Then when someone wants to see the show/movie, all they have to do is select it from the archive.

Everything is available at the moment you want to watch it and completely eliminates the need to keep your own copies (which would be available if need be).