Now they want to control what apps you can have

[Broheim]

Irrelevant since you can't stop people from drinking and driving 24/7/365. Hell it might even be a good thing since it will get them off a busy main road and lost in some neighborhood going 10 mph to figure out where they are.

I'd much rather have DUI's driving on busy main roads than ploughing through a neighborhood...
no, you can't stop every DUI, but why should we make it easier for them to get away with it...

 

[xj0hnx]

Honestly?

You'll have to help us all out. How drunk IS 'too drunk' then? Just a little? Is that like just a little pregnant, or just a little high?

On another note, it's partisian hackery to point out these folks are 'D's unless you're going to talk about abortion and "R"s. They both have rights they don't wish us to have. Wake up people. It's both sides, not just one. (Bah, do I actually expect Spidey to listen? LOL).

However, your comment pretty much takes the cake today. "Not too drunk". Ha.

To deny that there is a difference between a guy that had a beer or two at a bar with friends, and the dude that's been drinking since 9am has pounded a 5th, a case, and random drinks where ever is ...silly? naive?

 

[irishScott]

So if I get caught waiting at a DUI checkpoint and call my friend a few miles behind me and tell him to steer clear, should I be arrested?

 

[xj0hnx]

So if I get caught waiting at a DUI checkpoint and call my friend a few miles behind me and tell him to steer clear, should I be arrested?

No, you most certainly shouldn't.

 

[Onita]

I'd much rather have DUI's driving on busy main roads than ploughing through a neighborhood...
no, you can't stop every DUI, but why should we make it easier for them to get away with it...

Outside of the Constitutionality issue of DUI checkpoints, studies have shown that they are ineffective and money is better spent on patrols. Setting up checkpoints IS actually making it easier to get away with.

 

[irishScott]

No, you most certainly shouldn't.

My point exactly. That is all this app does.

 

[Broheim]

So if I get caught waiting at a DUI checkpoint and call my friend a few miles behind me and tell him to steer clear, should I be arrested?

if your friend is drinking and driving, then yeah, you should... aiding and abetting...
if he isn't drinking and driving, then no you shouldn't.
you can make that distinction, the app can't...

Outside of the Constitutionality issue of DUI checkpoints, studies have shown that they are ineffective and money is better spent on patrols. Setting up checkpoints IS actually making it easier to get away with.

then you're doing it wrong, danish cops know when and where to do DUI checkpoints and they always catch a shitload of scumbags, patrolling is good too but you have to agree that it's very random.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Don't tell Matt that, he confused as it is.

Why? He's correct. Socialism is totalitarian control. I think we can all agree that the UK is a socialist society, and the government there has a totalitarian control over the people. Camera's on every corner, and the people there are foolishly accepting of them as a "safety precaution".
You can't have socialism without government intervention. And as has been proven throughout time, governments continue to grant themselves more power and take away rights of it's people. That is totalitarianism

I think the biggest reason those in the government want this app stomped on is because it will cut into their ticket revenue.

 

[bfdd]

if your friend is drinking and driving, then yeah, you should... aiding and abetting...
if he isn't drinking and driving, then no you shouldn't.
you can make that distinction, the app can't...



then you're doing it wrong, danish cops know when and where to do DUI checkpoints and they always catch a shitload of scumbags, patrolling is good too but you have to agree that it's very random.

How are we supposed to tell, over the phone, exactly how drunk someone is? That's kind of silly.

 

[Munky]

Some Jurisdictions have Laws about warning Motorists of Speed Traps. DUI Checkpoints are likely included.

And if there was a law against criticizing your government, I'm sure you'd follow it too. If everyone was like you, we'd still be under British rule.

 

[bfdd]

And if there was a law against criticizing your government, I'm sure you'd follow it too. If everyone was like you, we'd still be under British rule.

he's canadian....

 

[sandorski]

And if there was a law against criticizing your government, I'm sure you'd follow it too. If everyone was like you, we'd still be under British rule.

Fail, not even close to the same thing. Try again.

 

[lothar]

There are laws against Aiding and Abetting Criminals(this is the example I should have noted in previous post). Warning people of Traffic enforcement would be, potentially, doing that. Similarly, you don't have Freedom of Speech to lie on the Witness Stand.

I have red light cameras and speed traps on my GPS.
How will they prove that I'm a criminal by having them on my GPS if I haven't ran a red light yet or if I'm not speeding?

Red Light Cameras: My GPS warns me "Caution: You are now approaching a red light camera."
Speed Traps/Cameras: My GPS warns me "Mobile police radar ahead."

I get both warnings when I'm 600ft from the locations which gives me time to react. I will slam the brakes to avoid a red light camera if I have to. No way am I getting a ticket. Never had one, will never get one.

 

[sandorski]

I have red light cameras and speed traps on my GPS.
How will they prove that I'm a criminal by having them on my GPS if I haven't ran a red light yet or if I'm not speeding?

Red Light Cameras: My GPS warns me "Caution: You are now approaching a red light camera."
Speed Traps/Cameras: My GPS warns me "Mobile police radar ahead."

I get both warnings when I'm 600ft from the locations which gives me time to react. I will slam the brakes to avoid a red light camera if I have to. No way am I getting a ticket. Never had one, will never get one.

That would be why these Politicians contacted the service provider.

 

[nonlnear]

There are laws against Aiding and Abetting Criminals(this is the example I should have noted in previous post). Warning people of Traffic enforcement would be, potentially, doing that. Similarly, you don't have Freedom of Speech to lie on the Witness Stand.

Failsandorski is fail.

Aiding and abetting requires specific knowledge of the crime being aided/abetted, and specific intent to aid the crime in question. Broadcasting public knowledge about police whereabouts while they are in public (facts about which the police have no expectation of privacy) doesn't even come close to the universe that aiding and abetting inhabits. Not to mention that there are legitimate lawful uses for said information - like getting home in a reasonable amount of time, no matter where one might be coming from. Then again it's not surprising that a passionate statist such as yourself has no appreciation for such things.

 

[sandorski]

Failsandorski is fail.

Aiding and abetting requires specific knowledge of the crime being aided/abetted, and specific intent to aid the crime in question. Broadcasting public knowledge about police whereabouts while they are in public (facts about which the police have no expectation of privacy) doesn't even come close to the universe that aiding and abetting inhabits. Not to mention that there are legitimate lawful uses for said information - like getting home in a reasonable amount of time, no matter where one might be coming from. Then again it's not surprising that a passionate statist such as yourself has no appreciation for such things.

Nah, you have Failed sir, clearly.

 

[Broheim]

How are we supposed to tell, over the phone, exactly how drunk someone is? That's kind of silly.

in that example, the person in question knew his friend was a few miles behind him so he probably also knows what he has been doing (e.g. if he has been drinking).

and if you can't be sure then you shouldn't call and warn him.

 

[nonlnear]

Nah, you have Failed sir, clearly.

Yet another content-free post from Faildorski.

 

[sandorski]

Yet another content-free post from Faildorski.

Irony, you has it.

 

[Broheim]

Why? He's correct. Socialism is totalitarian control. I think we can all agree that the UK is a socialist society, and the government there has a totalitarian control over the people. Camera's on every corner, and the people there are foolishly accepting of them as a "safety precaution".
You can't have socialism without government intervention. And as has been proven throughout time, governments continue to grant themselves more power and take away rights of it's people. That is totalitarianism

I think the biggest reason those in the government want this app stomped on is because it will cut into their ticket revenue.

Socialism is not totalitarian control http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism, americans have this strange idea that socialism is the same as communism. communism is a form of socialism, not the other way around.

the UK is not a socialist society, the current primeminister is David Cameron, leader of the Conservative party. Does the UK do things differently than the US? yes they do and thank god for that.

the CCTVs are there to prevent and help solve crimes, not to control the population, if you want to talk control then let's talk about what the NSA does for a living.

and here we go again, why on earth are so many of you americans convinced that the government is dead set on taking away your freedom? it's beyond me.

 

[nonlnear]

Irony, you has it.

Only to somebody with no appreciation for how adult discussion works. My single sentence post addressed each of the arguments in the post it was answering (a simple feat when there are none to speak of), while as always your single sentence post failed abysmally to do the same.

 

[dmcowen674]

I have red light cameras and speed traps on my GPS.
How will they prove that I'm a criminal by having them on my GPS if I haven't ran a red light yet or if I'm not speeding?

Red Light Cameras: My GPS warns me "Caution: You are now approaching a red light camera."
Speed Traps/Cameras: My GPS warns me "Mobile police radar ahead."

I get both warnings when I'm 600ft from the locations which gives me time to react. I will slam the brakes to avoid a red light camera if I have to. No way am I getting a ticket. Never had one, will never get one.

Hopefully your local jurisdiction is monitoring this site and cites you for your illegal Apps.

 

[dmcowen674]

So if I get caught waiting at a DUI checkpoint and call my friend a few miles behind me and tell him to steer clear, should I be arrested?

Yes, you should and will be arrested, this is illegal.

Just as it is illegal to flash your high beams warning other motorists of a speed trap ahead.

 

[Munky]

Fail, not even close to the same thing. Try again.

Not my problem if you fail to see the idiocy of your posts.

 

[Munky]

Yes, you should and will be arrested, this is illegal.

Just as it is illegal to flash your high beams warning other motorists of a speed trap ahead.

You can blindly obey your overlords. Until the courts decide on the legality of such bullshit laws, you'll be the minority.