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DivideBYZero said:
As for apps. This is some tired shit, too. I run some great apps on my BlackBerry, I have more apps on my BlackBerry than my Android. But yeah, no apps on BB, none at all, and anyway they don't do anything and are all shit. The 1 million apps downloaded from App World per day must be a figment of every BB users imagination.
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I'm sure BB has apps that you find useful, but the fact of the matter is that they have about 10,000 apps?

Android has 10x that, iOS? 20x that amount. It's not about quantity either, both platforms have higher quality as well.

Honestly what I expect from RIM is to refine their core functions. If they get that down I could see them starting to compete on the app front.
 
Computer Bottleneck said:
Yes, but how does battery life factor into various user needs?
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Its very important to me, one of the reasons I chose the iPhone which has superior battery life to that of most Droid phones, and probably BB's as well.

DivideBYZero said:
Uptime is a bullshit argument from Ben, as I'd like to see a 1000 hour uptime count on any AT members Android or iPhone device. Post up your 1000hr uptime, Ben. Do it, please.
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If I knew how to provide this data on an iPhone, I could definitely post uptime of 1000 hr's, easily. Just have to make sure I don't install any apps that require a respring or reboot - thats the only reason my phone would ever have downtime. Just like my machine at home could easily be within the 3+ month uptime range in MS didn't release patches every other week.
 
AMDZen said:
If I knew how to provide this data on an iPhone, I could definitely post uptime of 1000 hr's, easily. Just have to make sure I don't install any apps that require a respring or reboot - thats the only reason my phone would ever have downtime. Just like my machine at home could easily be within the 3+ month uptime range in MS didn't release patches every other week.
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That's great. Post it up.

My BB is at 165hrs as of this post, as I had to restart due to switching batteries when I was away for three days. I'm going to try and keep it going without running out of battery or needing a reboot from an app install as long as I can, then all you have to do is beat it.
 
DivideBYZero said:
That's great. Post it up.

My BB is at 165hrs as of this post, as I had to restart due to switching batteries when I was away for three days. I'm going to try and keep it going without running out of battery or needing a reboot from an app install as long as I can, then all you have to do is beat it.
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So far I've only found a paid app for the iPhone, but I'll keep an eye out for something to show my phones uptime

Actually I'll probably just spend the buck unless someone knows of a free one.
 
Uptime is a bullshit argument from Ben, as I'd like to see a 1000 hour uptime count on any AT members Android or iPhone device.
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The fact that you think 1000 hours is even remotely approaching impressive for a cell phone speaks volumes about how bad the platform you support is. I'm certain the iPhone users can give you a shot too after they are far enough out from their last OS update.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll39/notsur/1089.png

Waiting for the BB response.
 
BenSkywalker said:
The fact that you think 1000 hours is even remotely approaching impressive for a cell phone speaks volumes about how bad the platform you support is. I'm certain the iPhone users can give you a shot too after they are far enough out from their last OS update.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll39/notsur/1089.png

Waiting for the BB response.
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To be frank, you're talking shit. There is nothing 'bad' about a cell phone being restarted. Period. In fact my Froyo powered device has restarted around 60 times in the last week alone.

Also, lets have some validation in that pic, that it's yours. A bit of paper next to that value with the number "454-289" written in that way will do.
 
For what it's worth, I would estimate that I have had a 1000+ hour uptime on my iPhone at several points over the years. While I have had apps that hang enough to require a restart (hold power+home for ~10 seconds), it's extremely rare... I almost never have to restart my iPhone 3GS, and I rarely power it off.

As Ben said, my current uptime isn't high because I just upgraded to the latest OS release less than 2 weeks ago but I haven't restarted or powered off since then.. just a couple of re-springs. In a couple more weeks, I should be able to pull out a screenshot with 1000+ hours.

I'm not going to argue BB uptimes - I haven't had much experience with BB's - but I will say that I'm certain that I've had periods that were longer than 40 days where I didn't power-off or restart my iPhone. I don't think it's that rare.
 
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Well I'm not a Blackberry fan by any means. My personal phone is a Droid, which I love, but my work phone is a Blackberry Tour. I wouldn't use the Tour if they would pay for me to have my corporate mail on my Droid. But just to play devils advocate, I have an uptime of over 1000 hours right now on my Tour. Granted I use it for nothing but email and Skype chat, but my current uptime is 3932429 seconds or 45.5 days. This is on OS5.

Now I did have a personal Blackberry Curve previously before I got my droid that I used for a ton of stuff. That bastard had to be rebooted nightly, which I eventually did with QuickPull.

So I guess it depends what you do with the phone.
 
DivideBYZero said:
Comparing a Blackberry to Windows 98 is a deliberate attempt to garner a strong response. That's trolling.

Would be along the lines of me stating the iPhone is a turd rolled in glitter.
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LOL. I don't mind if you call an iPhone that. It has no bearing in reality though, unlike my argument.

The argument can be made that the BB OS is the equivalent of Win98 in stability in a lot of people's experience. That is why they came out with Apps specifically to reboot your phone when you sleep - get a fresh reboot nightly solves a lot of issues.

Its not like Win98 was a horrible OS, it lead the way to better things. Just like BB OS is partially responsible for leading the way for iOS, which led the way to Android.

I could of said it was the equivalent of WinME and had no redeeming qualities at all. 😀 There are a lot of people who stuck with Win98 long after XP was released because they were holding onto something - I could also make the argument that you are one of those people. Let it go, move on to something better. 😉
 
DivideBYZero said:
There are reboot apps for all platforms, including iPhone, so your point is moot at best.
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There actually isn't an official automatic reboot app for the iPhone - there's a jailbreak app, but not one that you can get one the iPhone app store. Of course that has less to do with the amazing stability of the iPhone (although as I said, it is pretty stable), and more to do with the fact that Apple doesn't allow the API call to reboot the phone to be issued from an app.
 
pm said:
There actually isn't an official automatic reboot app for the iPhone - there's a jailbreak app, but not one that you can get one the iPhone app store. Of course that has less to do with the amazing stability of the iPhone (although as I said, it is pretty stable), and more to do with the fact that Apple doesn't allow the API call to reboot the phone to be issued from an app.
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I think this is similar to Android, I haven't seen any reboot apps that work without root access. Due to OS instability, it was nice (essential!) to have this type of utility on my old Treo (PalmOS), but I've come to discover it's really not needed on my current phone.
 
are there any good deals to buy the Torch off contract?

Surprisingly my cousin from Asia wants this phone. This is a first. Blackberries were always hard to acquire for overseas customers. Usually I'm the one going to Asia buying phones, but for the first time she wants me to get this phone.

I can obviously get it off contract from AT&T for $499.99 or wahtever, but are there any good deals for off contract? 😀

and no i'm not eligible for discounts until feb 2011. Ugh. Damn you AT&T! Don't even know how that works because I bought a 3GS on launch weekend. I should've gotten moved up to get the iPhone 4.
 
DLeRium said:
and no i'm not eligible for discounts until feb 2011. Ugh. Damn you AT&T! Don't even know how that works because I bought a 3GS on launch weekend. I should've gotten moved up to get the iPhone 4.
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No ideas on the Blackberry, but they moved up anyone who was eligible for an upgrade this year (so anyone before Dec. 31st, 2010). I'm in the same situation as you - I have a 3GS that I bought soon after launch. I'm not that impressed with the iPhone 4 though once I found out that the battery life isn't that much better than the 3GS. I'm happy to wait and see if Verizon will have an iPhone 5, or T-Mobile will get one or something like that.

As far as the Blackberry, my recommendations are the usual... ebay and craiglist.
 
gsaldivar said:
Either that or he doesn't want to be bothered producing meaningless anecdotal evidence which you will find a reason to dismiss anyway?

()🙂
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well, to be fair, he has neither claimed nor denied that it was his phone. Merely that it was an Android phone with 1,000 hours of uptime.

However - having used quite a few Android, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry devices in the past two years, I have to say I am very skeptical of anyone that uses their phone even moderately having 1,000+ on a regular basis. It certainly can happen, but its not par for the course.
 
Deeko said:
well, to be fair, he has neither claimed nor denied that it was his phone. Merely that it was an Android phone with 1,000 hours of uptime.

However - having used quite a few Android, Windows Mobile, and Blackberry devices in the past two years, I have to say I am very skeptical of anyone that uses their phone even moderately having 1,000+ on a regular basis. It certainly can happen, but its not par for the course.
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Well, I've taken up the challenge and my work, rest and play device is currently sitting at 256hrs, and as I said, it only restarted due to a battery switch over while I was away from power for three days.
 
DivideBYZero said:
I'm not that kind of guy. If he can stump up an image of his actual phone I'll be more than happy to accept it.
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My point was... it's a pissing match.

Anecdotal 'evidence' means squat, because there is always someone out there that did it faster, longer, better than you did.

And how is it related to the OP's topic again...?
 
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