Now is the time Computer buffs to show true support for AMD

[dmcowen674]

Now is the time Computer buffs to show true support for AMD

This is the year that will be make or break for the Company. Intel is going all out for blood since they realize now that they can no longer gouge the consumer as they have done all along because AMD has not only knocked on their door but can actually come inside their own home especially in the Server market where Intel has had no visitors.

Intel is about to slash their prices by nearly 60%, what does that tell you about how artificially high they have been charging everyone?

Unfortunately AMD may feel compelled to slash back and cut into the very profits they need to sustain the battle against the giant. Hopefully they may be able to hold the line on prices. The hard part is that will mean that their CPU would be priced nearly the same as a performance equivalent Intel CPU or possibly (gasp) even higher priced than the Intel product. This isn?t because AMD will be gouging it?s loyal users, it?s because Intel will be using it?s huge coffers it has stashed over the years of it?s monopolistic like business practice to try and squash it?s competition now.

What can you the consumer do? Resist going for the cheaper Intel product and sticking with AMD CPU?s. Show the business world loyalty and honesty still matters.

Dave McOwen

 

[greg]

or...be good americans and make AMD lower prices...

 

[Jwyatt]

I guess we should all start buying gateways and hps and compaqs too. Dell has been doing this for a year or so now. Cutting prices to weed out the competition and has worked well for them.

Intel has very deep pockets, thanks to the high prices for consumers as well as oems.
I belive AMDs biggest worry is OEMS. They need to keep thier product in some oem companys. Thats where the money is. Not us casual builders and such.

Also its been stated that companies are going to stop upgrading computers until there is a real need. Todays software just doesnt use the 2.4ghz thats available. Intel and AMD are going to be in deep doodoo if they dont figure something out.

 

[mrzed]

Personally, I see no need at all. Isn't this how capitalism is supposed to work?

If I can get a better performing cpu for less $ from Intel, why not? That's what made AMD so popular for the last 3 years isn't it?

Even if AMD went down the toilet, I don't really think Intel would be alone for long. Someone - VIA, ATI, NVIDIA, who knows maybe even big evil MS, would come along and pick up the pieces. If Intel starts charging sky high prices again, it just leaves the door open that much wider.

I think Jwyatt is correct though. No consumer CPU company is going to be able to keep business as usual until some genius figures out the next killer app that actually requires a 2+ Ghz CPU.

 

[THUGSROOK]

youre nuts - go get a P4A.

 

[Kuroyama]

This is not how capitalism works, unless you feel convident that NVIDIA or someone else will take up the slack.

Just look at airline tickets, airlines regularly slash rates to push out the small guy and then jack the prices back up again. The key to competition is to have a low cost of entry, it is very expensive to start an airline or a computer chip company.

 

[Nate420]

I'm not an AMD fan, but I don't want to see them got under, or see all those peeps lose their jobs. Competition is always a good thing for us consumers, keeps prices down and inovation up.

However, if Intel slashes prices 60%, I'll be heading straight to Newegg to grab a few more Northwoods.

 

[johndoe52]

I am an AMD fan and have been since i bought my first computer. However if intel does cut prices by 60% I just might build another system while i'm waiting for hammer to come out.

 

[Wolfsraider]

intel is getting my business for the "best bang for the buck"

good luck AMD but lowering your prices will make the competition more even

and wasn't amd the one that always complained of intels prices:Q

/me slowly closes door behind him as the fire starts lol

 

[DAPUNISHER]

90% of my business is and will continue to be with AMD because I like you do not intend to bite the proverbial hand that fed me for so long! I owe a certain amount of loyalty to AMD but more than that it's the principle and 20/20 hind site that will keep me purchasing AMD products!

 

[strejo]

I have nothing against Intel or AMD. I buy whatever CPU gives me the nest bang for the buck. Currently that is AMD. If that changes in the near future, which I seriously doubt, I will buy Intel. I am happy that AMD is here because I remember when CPUs were selling for around $1000 before the Athlon was released and shortly thereafter. I can't see how someone would justify paying $584 for a P4 2.4 when they can buy an XP 2100+ for $236. Assuming Intel does cut the price of its flagship processor by 60%, the price would drop to $234. I highly doubt this. Resellers have already paid a much higher price for the chip and arn't going to sell them for a loss. And, if Intel does slash prices AMD will likely do the same. I hope Intel does slash prices, but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

 

[Goose77]

I got to agree with Kuroyama..... yes thats how capitalism works but not the U.S. version... your not allow to Monopolize in the U.S.!! just ask Microsoft about that one !!!!!


and i am all for AMD like DAPUNISHER said.. im not gonna bit the hand that has fed me for so long!!!


Go AMD... AMD AMD AMD AMD!!!!!!

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I have been reading alot of everyones post.... but everyone seems to miss the point!!!

1) if intel does slash the prices... this spells trouble for AMD
a) AMD does not have the deep pockets as INTEL does
b) With intel being so cheap more OEM will go with intel because intel is well known to the public!!! (non techs)
c) And... yes the inthusiasts do matter, dont know if people have been paying attention to the #'s but in ever stat that i have seen about CPUs, i see AMD taking the lead!! losing us is BAD!! and losing all that $$$$$$ mean no more AMD

with this in mind, i feel that all you people that say " im goin for price/performance even if it means buying intel" are such dum F#$%Ks!!!!! (no offence) let me just remind you of what it was like w/o the competition.... $300 for a slow ass CPU and $1000 for the best... now i dont know about u but i like paying $30 for the slowest and $250 for the fastest!! i dont know.. it might be just me????

like someone said... INTEL GOT DEEP POCKETS... they can last with out u buying there crap... remember they still have 70% of market share. SO


all i got to say is


LETS KEEP HOPE ALIVE !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Reward the company who makes the best, it gives the others an incentive to do better.

 

[rogue1979]

I will continue to support AMD until a percieve they are overcharging for their products. This is why I haven't bought very many Intel cpu's lately. I have one because my wife wanted Intel (Celeron 1.0a), the rest of my family is AMD all the way. Just bought 3 Morgan 1GHz cpu's from New Egg for $46.95 each shipped. Talk about value, I'll bet money I can get all three to 1300MHz, and not have to worry so much about cooling. Put these on the new ECS K7S6A with DDR RAM and it is the new bang for the buck champion. About $115 for the set up, the only thing close Intel has is the Celeron 1.0a for $65 shipped and an ECS P6S5AT board for $51 shipped, $116 total. Thing is the ECS board can only take the Tualatin to 1333MHz because of fsb limitation. Compare DDR ram performance to SDRAM and the Morgan will have faster overall system performance than a Tualatin at the same clock speed. I wish the Tualatin chipset could support a 266MHz fsb with DDR, because it is a fine value cpu, but crippled by memory performance.

Intel is really gonna have to offer something special on P4 to change my mind, because although it is tempting they have alot of past sins to make up for in my opinion. The cpu I am running right now cost me $87 seven months ago and runs 1530MHz, thank you AMD!

 

[Diable]

Dave, tell us you own stock in AMD because no one can be this loyal to a $100 piece of sand.

 

[dmcowen674]

No I don't have any money or stock. In fact many people around the world know how deep in debt I am after getting ripped by the State I live in over a screensaver. The loyalty stems from the fact like many people that the only reason I was able to build and have a PC at home since the 286 CPU days is because the AMD CPU was always reasonably priced. As someone said in here, won't bite the hand that fed me all these years.

Some one else said that they "ain't" going to be giving away their flagship product for $234, well in fact May 26th the price point will be $241 for the 2.2 P4.

Dave McOwen

 

[Emo]

I agree with the posters who think that we should support the best product not blindly follow AMD and Intel. Both of the companies are not perfect so I tend to buy the best value for my money. We are supposed to encourage progress and technical innovation with our subsidy of their research. Besides, as someone else mentioned, the real difference will be in the OEM deals, not the individuals. Another point that gets less attention in these arguments is that OEMs don't just look at the cpus but to overall costs and that factors in motherboard and chipset makers. Few OEMs will pick a VIA or ALi solution over a proven Intel platform.

 

[Jwyatt]

Lets not forget about the BIG BLUE

AMD isnt in trouble right now, and I really dont see them going south for a few years after they really get into trouble. If they did go under, someone would buy them out (IBM or other big names)

 

[LP29]

I don't have a lot of money that's why I always go for price/performance ratio. I don't care if it's AMD or Intel. I just want more bang for my bucks!!!

 

[Degenerate]

All i can say is that you need a couple of siggies. Relax. Buying CPU is not patriotic.

 

[holdencommodore]

I've done my bit for the welfare of AMD..... I bought a Athlon XP this year

Then again, I've always supported AMD .... I've had AMD based systems for a LONG time.... (see my sig)...i think I'll always stick with AMD in the future too.

Cheers.

 

[ronnaZ]

in my country when it comes to processors people only know the '*tel' word. when i say that i have an AMD they ask me "AM... what ?". i really feel bad that a company like AMD which anyday makes better processors than *tel has a little or sometimes no recognition. personally i too didnt know of AMD but then my dealer recommended AMD (Athlon) over *tel (P-4). a year later i feel that i made a very good choice. i recommend AMD to all my friends and they are convinded of the potential of the processor.

taking in consideration cost to performance ratio AMD is the leader, i am not sure how the 60% drop of prices by *tel make a difference.

why should anybody talk about competion. come on when *tel ruled nobody cared about companies like AMD, VIA..... *tel managed to throw them out of competition. when a company like AMD is making a comeback by launching its products with the numbering scheme i think it is fair enough "least to say!!!". chips and competition dont go together.

speaking about future of the two giant i think AMD has the edge. their entry into the server market has certainely sent tremors through *tel. the fate of the two chip makers lies in the hand of the hammer. i am sure if it is successful *tel will be history.

the need of the hour for AMD is to-
1. Advertise... advertise like hell.
2. Start shipping boxed processors to ALL the countries.
3. Increase the number of Genuin AMD dealer like how *tel has.
4. Not to depend on other companies to make the mb's instead launch a who line of mb's like *tel.
5. Optimize every possible game,software,etc and
6. Try to focus more on the branded pc's market.

AMD - THE POWER ON YOUR SIDE

 

[Nate420]

<< the fate of the two chip makers lies in the hand of the hammer. i am sure if it is successful *tel will be history. >>



Intel won't be going anywhere for long. long time my friend. It'll take a hell of a lot more than Hammer to put a dent in Intel's bottomless pocket.

 

[Fingers]

Even though I'm saving my pennies for a dual hammer setup with 1 MB cache each Proc, remember that intel is comming out with a P4 varient with x86-64 extensions based on a 90 nm process. Nobody knows of yet what the performance will be like, but intel does have very good engineers and is driven by performance, I could see the possibility of them comming out with a real winner. I do hope AMD will take over as the king od silicon and then it starts seesawing back and foorth so that all of us get the best value we can when building out PC's

 

[SteelCityFan]

Those things you say AMD needs to do would cost AMD more money and force them to increase prices.