Now Cuba Handled Hurricanes and Evacuation

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Experience also comes into play.

Cuba gets belted 3-4 times a year. They have learned what can be done by Mother Nature.

People in the Gulf get hit once a lifetime. And many people who survive once will feel cocky that theycan survive anything.

Attitude problem of the people.

Oh! Check the history of hurricanes in the Gulf! Once in a lifetime!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
You're telling me we had two days of warning for the impact, and using it to refute my opinion that we didn't have enough time? I remember Ivan as the top story in the news for over a week before it hit.

What on earth makes you think over two million people from all over the gulf region can be evacuated in two days? Or that they would even want to move? Before Katrina you?d easily find people down there mocking incoming storms.

The Gulf region.... Make sense. Who's talking about the entire "Gulf Region"? Where did most of the deaths occur? In the "Gulf Region"? Stop dodging. You tried to say the storm veered at the last minute. It did not. The eye was within 30 miles of the estimated location. How much more warning should we have. When a terrorist blows up a dirty bomb in a large city, will we have 48 hours to prepare? I think not. Homeland Security has failed its first real test.

In one of the few compliments Bush gave the previous administration during the 2000 campaign, he praised President Clinton's FEMA director, James Lee Witt, as a "guy who has done a really good job of working with governors during times of crisis."

Yet after his election in 2000, Bush quickly replaced Witt with Joseph Allbaugh, his former campaign manager, and a man who had little experience in disaster relief. At a Senate subcommittee hearing on May 15, 2001, he called the agency "an oversized entitlement program" and warned that "expectations of when the federal government should be involved, and the degree of involvement, may have ballooned beyond what is an appropriate level."
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Hey Dan. Guess who Blanco hired as her advisor for emergency operations and disaster response for Katrina?

Yep, James Lee Witt. It doesn't seem he's helped her out too well.

Trolling again are we? Spreading half-truths and innuendo again, eh, TrollsLikeChicken?

Tell us, TLC, exactly *when* did she bring in Mr. Witt? Hmmm? Care to tell us all that?

Look at conjur trying to toss out another red herring, as if the timing matters.

Or are you saying she waited until she has completely screwed and was in a pickle before bringing in some expert advice to try to save her @ss?

 

[conjur]

Answer the question, TLC. When did she bring him down for assistance? Very simple question and the timing matters very much.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
Answer the question, TLC. When did she bring him down for assistance? Very simple question and the timing matters very much.

I'll be glad to answer the question - She did it after it was too little, too late, and nothing could save her from her incompetence.

Anything else you want me to answer tonight, c?

 

[conjur]

Try again. And, this time, do it without your BS hyperbole.


I'm waiting...

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
Try again. And, this time, do it without your BS hyperbole.


I'm waiting...

Why ask rhetorical questions, conjur? Obviously you know.

Post the date yourself and then let others wonder why she waited so long to get some expert advice.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: conjur
Try again. And, this time, do it without your BS hyperbole.


I'm waiting...

Still waiting

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: conjur
Try again. And, this time, do it without your BS hyperbole.


I'm waiting...

Still waiting

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
Try again. And, this time, do it without your BS hyperbole.


I'm waiting...

Why ask rhetorical questions, conjur? Obviously you know.

Post the date yourself and then let others wonder why she waited so long to get some expert advice.

No you're not. You're trolling.

You already know the date, or you wouldn't be asking me in the first place. I have nothing to hide, so post the date yourself.

Then we can all discuss WHY it took Blanco so long to bring in some expertise.

 

[conjur]

*you* are the one trolling. That's all you do anymore. Why don't you go join the idiots at FreeRepublic? They'll gladly take you in.

*You* brought up the subject of bringing in James Witt and *you* added your BS trolling comment.


All I'm asking you to do is post a link showing when Witt was asked to come in. No BS attached.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
*you* are the one trolling. That's all you do anymore. Why don't you go join the idiots at FreeRepublic? They'll gladly take you in.

*You* brought up the subject of bringing in James Witt and *you* added your BS trolling comment.


All I'm asking you to do is post a link showing when Witt was asked to come in. No BS attached.

conjur. You know the date already. Why are you playing this game? Post it YOURSELF.

You seem to think I actually care about the date. Well I do. I'm wondering why Blanco took so long? Do you now want to argue she was pre-emptive in her selection? If so, help yourself. And if she was pre-emptive, why did the awesome Witt fail her?

(Being between a rock and hard place sucks, doesn't it conjur?)

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: bamacre
I wish we could be more like Cuba.

You can move there. Nice beaches and 100% employment!

I think he was joking but

Can you travel to Cuba from USA? Not stay, just vacation and is it safe? You know crime wise and the federalis wise? I would mind traveling there.. hit VI and monserat already back in the 90s

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
*you* are the one trolling. That's all you do anymore. Why don't you go join the idiots at FreeRepublic? They'll gladly take you in.

*You* brought up the subject of bringing in James Witt and *you* added your BS trolling comment.


All I'm asking you to do is post a link showing when Witt was asked to come in. No BS attached.

conjur. You know the date already. Why are you playing this game? Post it YOURSELF.

You seem to think I actually care about the date. Well I do. I'm wondering why Blanco took so long? Do you now want to argue she was pre-emptive in her selection? If so, help yourself. And if she was pre-emptive, why did the awesome Witt fail her?

(Being between a rock and hard place sucks, doesn't it conjur?)

Afraid of embarrassing yourself further?


Post the date.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
*you* are the one trolling. That's all you do anymore. Why don't you go join the idiots at FreeRepublic? They'll gladly take you in.

*You* brought up the subject of bringing in James Witt and *you* added your BS trolling comment.


All I'm asking you to do is post a link showing when Witt was asked to come in. No BS attached.

conjur. You know the date already. Why are you playing this game? Post it YOURSELF.

You seem to think I actually care about the date. Well I do. I'm wondering why Blanco took so long? Do you now want to argue she was pre-emptive in her selection? If so, help yourself. And if she was pre-emptive, why did the awesome Witt fail her?

(Being between a rock and hard place sucks, doesn't it conjur?)

Afraid of embarrassing yourself further?


Post the date.

I've already explained that posting the date is no embarrasment to me whatsoever, so help yourself and post it. Feel free to do so. I'm waiting breathlessly.

 

[conjur]

I've asked you repeatedly. Stop being the troll you are for 5 seconds. Just once.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
I've asked you repeatedly. Stop being the troll you are for 5 seconds. Just once.

And I've already told you to stop playing rhetorical games. Post the date if you think it's so important. I'll be waiting, because I have questions to ask regardless of the date, and you know it. Stop stalling and do it.

 

[conjur]

<crickets>


Oh well. I should have known you were all hat and no cattle like your beloved President.



Buh-bye.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
<crickets>


Oh well. I should have known you were all hat and no cattle like your beloved President.



Buh-bye.

LAFF

Who's the chicken now?

 

[Ferocious]

Originally posted by: conjur
<crickets>


Oh well. I should have known you were all hat and no cattle like your beloved President.



Buh-bye.

hehe.

Neil Cavuto pulls the same crap on TV quite often. Except he fools 99% of the viewers. Well he used to anyways...I stopped watching him a long time ago.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
<crickets>


Oh well. I should have known you were all hat and no cattle like your beloved President.



Buh-bye.

LAFF

Who's the chicken now?

From these posts I'd say you are both the chicken as well as the *sshat here.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Ferocious

Originally posted by: conjur
<crickets>


Oh well. I should have known you were all hat and no cattle like your beloved President.



Buh-bye.

hehe.

Neil Cavuto pulls the same crap on TV quite often. Except he fools 99% of the viewers. Well he used to anyways...I stopped watching him a long time ago.

Neil "You're damn right I'm biased" Cavuto.

What a joke.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Well let me try:

1) Cuba does a damn fine job handling national disasters . . . it's a shame they are still saddled with an unnatural one (Castro) . . . make that two (US foreign policy).

2) James Lee Witt was enlisted AFTER the disaster as it became apparent that state and local officials were overwelmed AND FEMA officials were demonstrably incompetent.

3) Lessons for the future:
a) Hire a buddy to do fundraising or as a political hack NOT run a agency for which they are wholly unqualified and couldn't possibly hope to be.
b) Bad weather happens . . . if you are unprepared . . . you will be SOL.
c) Bad weather happens . . . if you make no plans to leave . . . you will be SOL.
d) If you live in the flood plain . . . plan for floods.
e) If you live below the flood plain . . . plan to move.
f) If the government offers flood insurance for people that move back to NO . . . impeach every friggin' one of them.