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shortylickens

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Watched American Graffiti for the first time in 30 years.
Its not nearly as much fun as I remember but it was a hell of a lot better without commercial blocks and bleeps.

6/10
 

shortylickens

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Watching season 1 of SNL.
Forgot how original a concept it was back in 1975. Also forgot how much it sucked because they were basically just experimenting and didnt have much of a plan.
The second episode was pretty much all music and half of one sketch.
 

DigDog

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i'm sure there's a reason - the new Bill & Ted film coming out - but i watched (without knowing) Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101452/

and right as i was done, RLM decided to public their review as well:

.. i cannot say we agree. Most of the time me & RLM totally agree, but occasionally they are wrong. I'm sure that there can exist cases where *I* am wrong but they have not happened yet.

Allegedly, Bogus Journey is better than Excellent Adventure, which anyone with a heart can see is not true. In fact Excellent Adventure is much better, and Bogus Journey is .. meh. I do agree that it managed to be a decent sequel i.e. not copy what done before, but also stay within the milieu, and it's not totally horrible, but it doesn't have the purity of the first film.
And, it totally does not have that epic final speech, which is what the movie is all about.

Bill & Ted have now saved the world. Hanging out at home with The Babes(R), they still haven't learned to play guitar, and are starting to wonder exactly how that is going to happen.
Then they are killed by Evil Robots(R)
Dead Bill & Ted must return to life, so Save The Babes(tm)!
Bill & Ted fight the devil and beat Death at twister, so they get to come back to life. With the help of an alien scientist they defeat the Evil Robots(R) and save the day.

eh .. it's really the same formula as the first, just shaken up a bit. Which isn't bad, but it kinda makes the ideal watching order BJ -> EA.
RLM's complaint that the first film doesn't have a villain or a sense of urgency *evidently* never had to find a way to pass a school final they had never studied for. But, jokes aside, the first film has better direction and better acting, and the second doesn't.
case in point:

Having esily proven my point, i can say without a doubt that:

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure: 7/10
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey: 6/10
Bill & Ted Face The Music: 5/10 (projected)
 

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Ichinisan

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I HAVE WATCHED MUCH SHIT
but after countless hours of drunked searching for a purpose in life, i have yet again found myself watching Doctor Who 2005, the Christopher Ecclestone / David Tennant era, and if you have not seen this, you are missing out on some of the greatest television ever. I'm talking, fuck game of trones, this is 10/10 shit - tears of laughter, tears of joy, tears of sadness, excitement, emotion, courage, every positive emotion you could ever expect from a screen will be given to you by this 10 out of fucking 10 show. I have seen many epic things come out of television but none were as good as Doctor Who 2005.
I watched one episode many years ago. Something about plastic mannequins coming alive. They used "anti-plastic" to defeat them.

Stupid beyond description.
 
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I watched one episode many years ago. Something about plastic mannequins coming alive. They used "anti-plastic" to defeat them.

Stupid beyond description.
that episode is called Rose, it is the first of the revived series; it's not great, but it really only serves as an introduction to A) the new Doctor, B) the new companion, C) the new series.

It's *not* straight science fiction; yeah, anti-plastic is stupid. if you see it like that, you gonna hate the series, as 90% of the time they solve the issue at hand via: A) talking, B) letting the bad guy's own greed and evil ruin its own plans, C) generic "good will prevail" effort; "maybe the monster was actually trying to help" and all that kind of stuff.
In very rare occasions, the Doctor pulls an absurd Ex-Machina which kicks everyone's ass.

New Doctor Who's first four seasons were amazing, but if you got defeated by Rose, you probably won't make it to anything good.

(it reeeeally went downhill after Tennant left)

i would recommend, if you want to give it another go, that you try watching a film called The Five Doctors; it's a special episode of classic Doctor Who from 1983, it should give you an idea of what Doctor Who is about, and what it is not.
 

JEDI

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that episode is called Rose, it is the first of the revived series; it's not great, but it really only serves as an introduction to A) the new Doctor, B) the new companion, C) the new series.

It's *not* straight science fiction; yeah, anti-plastic is stupid. if you see it like that, you gonna hate the series, as 90% of the time they solve the issue at hand via: A) talking, B) letting the bad guy's own greed and evil ruin its own plans, C) generic "good will prevail" effort; "maybe the monster was actually trying to help" and all that kind of stuff.
In very rare occasions, the Doctor pulls an absurd Ex-Machina which kicks everyone's ass.

New Doctor Who's first four seasons were amazing, but if you got defeated by Rose, you probably won't make it to anything good.

(it reeeeally went downhill after Tennant left)

i would recommend, if you want to give it another go, that you try watching a film called The Five Doctors; it's a special episode of classic Doctor Who from 1983, it should give you an idea of what Doctor Who is about, and what it is not.
and how many times has the sonic screwdriver saved the day?
uggg...
 

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I watched one episode many years ago. Something about plastic mannequins coming alive. They used "anti-plastic" to defeat them.

Stupid beyond description.
I think that's the exact same episode I watched, and I didn't even finish the episode. Not that I think it was terrible necessarily, but I could tell it wasn't for me.
 

DigDog

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ooh so the sonic screwdriver is too strong, but marvel movies are totally reasonable. ok.
 

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ooh so the sonic screwdriver is too strong, but marvel movies are totally reasonable. ok.
So, you assume Dr. Who critics readily embrace Marvel? From my perspective, a Marvel fan seems far more likely to embrace Dr. Who than a Marvel critic.
 

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IMO Dr Who (certainly the series that started in 2005) has always been intended to be light, mostly humorous, often camp sci-fi that is on television at a time suitable for kids of an age to stay up a bit and watch something 'scary'. Bear in mind that episode was meant to be an introduction (after a long hiatus, something like 20 years?) for a new young audience that had never seen Dr Who before, so there's nothing gritty or deep in it. Some episodes are stand-alone ones, others are part of a series-long story arc.

The best episodes of that series by a long shot are 'The Empty Child' and 'The Doctor Dances', a two-parter. It would have scared the shit out of me as a kid :)

Before the 2005 series the quality of the episodes was pretty spotty, often because the budget was too low, sci-fi on TV was very immature, and the scripts weren't great.

The 2005 and later series are a lot better-funded, and there are *some* excellent scripts. Overall I'd rate it a smidgen lower than TNG, bear in mind it's for a slightly younger audience than TNG, and like TNG there are some episodes that really stand out.

I've watched about half the seasons including 2005, I've been on and off it depending on the quality of the episodes.

PS: The sonic screwdriver being able to do almost anything is a running joke in the modern series.
 

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and how many times has the sonic screwdriver saved the day?
uggg...

Not just the day, but it is a all purpose magic tool capable of anything the plot requires. I imagine it saves the show a fortune in prop creation.
 

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Not just the day, but it is a all purpose magic tool capable of anything the plot requires. I imagine it saves the show a fortune in prop creation.
Surely it will not be the first "all purpose panacea magic tool" seen on the screen, and just as it magically solves problems, it also just as magically fails to work when the script demands it.
As my previous comparison with Marvel; they love to have these ridiculously overpowered superpowers, that, don't actually go all the way. This should in theory affect the script ("how does Superman shave?"), and also has practical aspects (if Luke Cage is immune to rocket blasts, surely the villain with a gun doesn't pose enough of a threat to advance the plot?) which are normally ignored in the name of suspension of disbelief.
The sonic screwdriver is the same. It's just a way to create suspense of a sense of urgency, and the same, the very same exists in every other film where Character has Tool.
war film: The bunker door is locked? A: we can blast it with C4!
teen film: The principal's office is locked? A: we can pick it with a hairpin!
spy film: The mainframe entry door is locked? A: we can hack it with this terminal!
So the protagonist has to waste some time, maybe the villain could be alerted to their presence, maybe we are unsure if they OH BUT YES, THEY OPEN THE DOOR! OH JOY, I RELATE TO THIS CHARACTER !!

come on, this is filmwriting 101 stuff.

Doctor Who is. exceptional.

You need a summary here: original, pre-reboot Doctor Who was a tv show for children. Nobody ever gets hit by the bad guys shooting, the bad guys move awkwardly and slowly, the heroes never die, and most important, everyone is happy in the end.

New Doctor Who is not like that. There have been attempts to introduce "a dark side" of the Doctor but the end result was just a slightly more somber tone, or, in some cases (like the 3rd Doctor) outright camp (when a guy in cape and monkey suit tries to be all dark and gloomy and serious .. ), but New Doctor Who made it clear that "this isn't a kid's show anymore".

And yet, it still is. And here is the magic of New Doctor Who, if you accept it: it still has the air of nonchalant attitude to danger, but occasionally some pretty deep shit happens. People get really hurt, there is a lot of pain in New Doctor Who, for it being a Doctor Who show. The parallel to Star Trek totally fits, TNG did the same thing to TOS - now there is tactics where before there was doublefist punching, now there is torture where poreviously they stole Spock's brain (!), now there are monsters who cannot be defeated by the end of the episode !!
But, at heart, TNG is still the same show as TOS.

And so is Doctor Who. But just like TNG, New Doctor Who has some pretty deep shit, hidden in all that cartoony rubbersuit monster stuff.
The new Doctor isn't quite allright anymore, he emerges from his many years of absence having fought a Time War that destroyed both his worst enemies and nearly all of his own species. This made him deeply angry and somewhat unstable. The fantastic adventures - where nobody every questions being exposed to a potentially fatal situation every time they travel through time - still all end in happiness and a good, heartfelt moral story, until someone GETS FUCKING MURDERED. And that just did not happen in Doctor Who.

So it's both a shocking breach of canon, but also an interesting story of its own. You *do* have to put up with the weird characters of british tv (which, incidentally, really got polished after New Doctor Who, nothing of the production quality of Broadchurch was seen before, brits are allergic to postproduction), but, in my opinion, it is well worth it, for the following reasons:
1. the doctor always has travelling companions; generally they are nothing more than redhsirts who spout exposition-demanding questions, but here, they form strong, real relationships that often have terrible endings.
2. there are still rubber suit monsters, but there are also "campaign" themes running through the show which are totally serious .. again, similar to TNG - the week's "energy mosnter" maybe easily defeated, but the Borg take a whole season to challenge, and they may even kill a permanent crewmember too.
3. the Doctor has to come to terms with both his limits, and the arrogance that stems from his powers.

.. i'm going to leave it at that, but i will explain that this show has David Tennant, Catherine Tate, Billie Piper, John Simm, and also some amazing characters. No, you do not need previous Doctor Who knowledge to understand any of it.
I wouldn't say "oh the first episode is boring". The first episode is not as involved in any of the stories which will come later. But, i foudn this show to be really superb, if you think that the "i am the one who knocks" scene was cool, then stuff like "i am the master, REBORN" will leave you shitting your pants.
Yeah, it takes a bit of time. The show has to cast off the remnants of a puppet show for children, and it takes some time to form the bonds which are then in danger in the later episodes.

But, i do not want to waste your time.
Here is a single clip; the Doctor, who changes body instead of dying, and has this habit of just leaving people he's been going around with, meets his old companion, Sarah Jane Smith. To him - an immortal dickhead - he's just housecalling a friend, to her, who has thought him lost for half her life, it's both a shock, and a resentment for having abandoned her. I get goosebumps EVERY TIME i watch this, so if you don't like this, you will never like Doctor Who.
clip:
 
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ooh so the sonic screwdriver is too strong, but marvel movies are totally reasonable. ok.
nope.
ultron is hulk level strength.
yet capt america takes body shots from him w/o his shield no problem.

his ribs should have been pulverized from the 1st shot... heck, ultron's fist should have went through his chest!
like your finger going through tissue paper
 

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i had a go at A Boy And His Dog - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072730/

not a great film.

i could write out the plot, but that would make AB&HD sound far better than it is. Allegedly, the book had some success, and that may well be, but the content - a stupid, sex-starved kid and his "old mentor", a wise (telepathic) dog - does not translate well to the screen, or, at least, not in this instance.

What you get instead is:
first half of the film. A bunch of non-actors in the desert with a camera and some dirty clothing. Two holes in the ground. A director desperate to make this seem like a postatomic scenario. Eventually, some naked titties.
second half. A whole bunch of non-actors in regular clothing, but also all wearing whiteface, as if that is soooooo futuristic. It's camp in a bad way, and it reminds me of The Prisoner.
Now, i did not watch The prisoner back in the 60s, and i understand that it was a cultural revolution thing back then, "absurdism in television" or that sort of thing, but AB&HD is form 1975, not 1967. And it's a film, not a tv serial.

My vote.. ugh .. 5.5/10
 

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The Exorcist series on Netflix - 9/10

On S1E8 holy shit of a shit, not overly gross or horrific just heavy and tense and alot of unexpected. 10/10 acting. Is the the 70s OG exorcist with much more detail and background story + a much bigger plot. It is so tense that I stop every 10-15min to process and back to work(WFH), if you like the OG exorcist you will love it.
 

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I personally get a kick out of B movies from the 1970's. Sci-fi and horror. Most are pretty entertaining.
That's mostly the stuff I watch by myself, but my wife doesn't really like horror movies (or B movies in general). If it was just me watching the two movies above, I would have turned them off after 15-20 minutes.
 
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FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS
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here is to hoping the "limited run" won't be a euphemism for "impossible to see".
 

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The Last narc 9.5/10 Fans of Narcos/mexico will enjoy. Mind-blowing.
 
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i had a go at A Boy And His Dog - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072730/

not a great film.

i could write out the plot, but that would make AB&HD sound far better than it is. Allegedly, the book had some success, and that may well be, but the content - a stupid, sex-starved kid and his "old mentor", a wise (telepathic) dog - does not translate well to the screen, or, at least, not in this instance.

What you get instead is:
first half of the film. A bunch of non-actors in the desert with a camera and some dirty clothing. Two holes in the ground. A director desperate to make this seem like a postatomic scenario. Eventually, some naked titties.
second half. A whole bunch of non-actors in regular clothing, but also all wearing whiteface, as if that is soooooo futuristic. It's camp in a bad way, and it reminds me of The Prisoner.
Now, i did not watch The prisoner back in the 60s, and i understand that it was a cultural revolution thing back then, "absurdism in television" or that sort of thing, but AB&HD is form 1975, not 1967. And it's a film, not a tv serial.

My vote.. ugh .. 5.5/10

The perfect example of a mind-expanding book that got meddled by executives into a terrible movie.
 
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