November 2008 NPD Thread

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: Baked

Originally posted by: herkulease
Who says this? People were like the 360 peaked in graphics talk started up last year with Halo 3. Again this year with Gow2.

I don't care what untapped potential the ps3 has. Unless they put some shit out that shows it its worthless to talk about potential.

Sony need to get off its ass and put up or shut up. If Gran Turismo 5 is going to be their killer graphics app then put it out already. Built in g25 support to while they are at it. I dunno if they'll even last till Christmas 2009 at the current rate.

Honestly I think the Sony people must be thinking everyone is sipping their koolaid. They repeat their potential spiel so many times they totally buy into it and are oblivious to everything else that going on. It seems clear to me that their whole Hype the shit out things with the ps2 isn't working with the ps3.

Seems to me like you're the one who's drinking the MS koolaid. Why did you continue to support MS when they allowed the hardware problem to roll over from the original Xbox to the 360? You know it has a ridiculously high failure rate, but you still bought it, even before they came out w/ the 3 year warranty to shut people up. It only took MS 3 fucking years to "fix" the RRoD problem, and they still wouldn't admit there's a hardware problem w/ their 360. You have people who are on their 5th or 6th refurb 360. If it were me, I would've sold the refurb unit the 1st time it came back.

Then MS went ahead and dropped mad money buying out exclusive JRPGs and DLC promises so they can keep people interested while they send out another RRoD 360 back to MS. How long did it take for that sweet GTA4 DLC to come out on 360? Oh, that's right, after everybody forgot about the game. How's that JRPG working out for you? Not so good according to metacritic scores.

So what if digital polyphony is taking their sweet time to come out w/ a polished product instead of some junk that's subpar and buggy as hell. If you can't wait for the full version like the rest of the ADHD kids, there's always GT5 P. Say what? It's too expensive for a demo? If you have no problem paying $60 for GoW 1.5, $30 is nothing for a taste of what's to come for GT5. Even as a demo, it looks and feels better than Forza 2. And guess what, you can play GT5 P with 2 decent wheels, Driving Force GT and G25, on the PS3. In addition, G25 is 100% compatible w/ GT5 P, there's no reason it wouldn't support GT5.

If you want a killer graphics app for PS3, you don't have to wait for GT5 full version to come out, there are plenty of them available already. Heavenly Sword, a PS3 launch title looks gorgeous. Have you played any of PS3's 2008 releases? MGS4 looks epic, its production value alone surpasses anything that came out on the 360. BioShock, an excellent port that was exclusive to 360 and PC that came out a year ago is one of the best looking titles on PS3. I don't know what people are smoking, but I thought GTA4's attention to detail were very well done. It's a shame people are so stuck up on the FPS craze, 'cause media molecule's LittleBigPlanet is truly one of the most innovative titles to come out in years, with awesome, albeit cartoony, graphics to boot. How about WipEout HD? That's some serious 1080p eye candy right there.

i think its just people's natural instinct to justify there purchase.. wanna know how to not have to do that.. buy both systems. or all 3. no need to sit here and argue over whose better. i think we've had this argument before, just another thread.
personally i think there both great.. not hippy speak.
i now get to play the best games from both systems. last night resistance. the night before GOW. and tonite ill play LBP

keep i mind. microsoft can afford to sell there 360 at low prices because they wanna get anyone to buy there system.because how many people really own.. 1,2, or even 3 of the so-called "next" gen consoles.
we all know sony has and done just fine with how they run things. look at the ps1 and ps2.. those sold great. PS2 is still selling great. almost 9 years later. so give it some time. ps3 just turned 2 recently. plus 360 is big because all the early adopters that just had to have a next-gen console. if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

I actually think it would be a little bit different but not much if the prices still came out and dropped at the same rate. You think the PS3 will be fine? I hope but I'm starting to think it is not going to be possible. Publishers are going to start bailing soon. If Killzone doesn't sell ridiculously well, they are in serious trouble.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: Baked
Seems to me like you're the one who's drinking the MS koolaid. Why did you continue to support MS when they allowed the hardware problem to roll over from the original Xbox to the 360? You know it has a ridiculously high failure rate, but you still bought it, even before they came out w/ the 3 year warranty to shut people up. It only took MS 3 fucking years to "fix" the RRoD problem, and they still wouldn't admit there's a hardware problem w/ their 360. You have people who are on their 5th or 6th refurb 360. If it were me, I would've sold the refurb unit the 1st time it came back.

Then MS went ahead and dropped mad money buying out exclusive JRPGs and DLC promises so they can keep people interested while they send out another RRoD 360 back to MS. How long did it take for that sweet GTA4 DLC to come out on 360? Oh, that's right, after everybody forgot about the game. How's that JRPG working out for you? Not so good according to metacritic scores.

So what if digital polyphony is taking their sweet time to come out w/ a polished product instead of some junk that's subpar and buggy as hell. If you can't wait for the full version like the rest of the ADHD kids, there's always GT5 P. Say what? It's too expensive for a demo? If you have no problem paying $60 for GoW 1.5, $30 is nothing for a taste of what's to come for GT5. Even as a demo, it looks and feels better than Forza 2. And guess what, you can play GT5 P with 2 decent wheels, Driving Force GT and G25, on the PS3. In addition, G25 is 100% compatible w/ GT5 P, there's no reason it wouldn't support GT5.

If you want a killer graphics app for PS3, you don't have to wait for GT5 full version to come out, there are plenty of them available already. Heavenly Sword, a PS3 launch title looks gorgeous. Have you played any of PS3's 2008 releases? MGS4 looks epic, its production value alone surpasses anything that came out on the 360. BioShock, an excellent port that was exclusive to 360 and PC that came out a year ago is one of the best looking titles on PS3. I don't know what people are smoking, but I thought GTA4's attention to detail were very well done. It's a shame people are so stuck up on the FPS craze, 'cause media molecule's LittleBigPlanet is truly one of the most innovative titles to come out in years, with awesome, albeit cartoony, graphics to boot. How about WipEout HD? That's some serious 1080p eye candy right there.

You will call me a fan boy no doubt even though I'm not but. I've had 2 PS2s break. They each died after a year because of the widespread and well known shitty disk drives. You know what the difference was between that and when my 360 RRODd? I didn't have to jump through hoops to get my 360 fixed. I had a new one 10 days after it broke.

You are getting ridiculous with your comparisons. You are comparing Forza 2 to GT5? Okay...Forza 2 is how old now?

Gears of War 2 is 1.5 ? how so? How is it any different than most same generation sequels? I don't understand the 1.5 comment but I think you are just raging lol.

Heavenly Sword was a PS3 launch title?

"How's that JRPG working out for you? Not so good according to metacritic scores." It is Microsoft's fault that Square Enix makes shitty games? Funny that you ignore the good ones like Lost Oddyssey and Tales of Vesperia. Star Ocean looks great.

Seriously dude wipe your drool.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

I actually think it would be a little bit different but not much if the prices still came out and dropped at the same rate. You think the PS3 will be fine? I hope but I'm starting to think it is not going to be possible. Publishers are going to start bailing soon. If Killzone doesn't sell ridiculously well, they are in serious trouble.

if things went differently. the price drops might not even have happened? but why speculate.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

I actually think it would be a little bit different but not much if the prices still came out and dropped at the same rate. You think the PS3 will be fine? I hope but I'm starting to think it is not going to be possible. Publishers are going to start bailing soon. If Killzone doesn't sell ridiculously well, they are in serious trouble.

if things went differently. the price drops might not even have happened? but why speculate.

Haha true but I'm an analyst so it is in my nature. That is why I like the NPD numbers every month. Stuff is interesting to me.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

I actually think it would be a little bit different but not much if the prices still came out and dropped at the same rate. You think the PS3 will be fine? I hope but I'm starting to think it is not going to be possible. Publishers are going to start bailing soon. If Killzone doesn't sell ridiculously well, they are in serious trouble.

if things went differently. the price drops might not even have happened? but why speculate.

Haha true but I'm an analyst so it is in my nature. That is why I like the NPD numbers every month. Stuff is interesting to me.

yup i mean look at nintendo, the wii for the most part is kaka.. but it still sells like hot cakes. mainly because it appeals to the casual crowd. yes we knew that right? they have not had a single price drop in the 2 years its been out. what happened if nintendo dropped it even 50 bux heh. forget riots. people would freak. the wii is worth probaly 150 at best. but i guess when people want it. sell it for whatever there willing to pay
with that said. i am part of that crowd who suckerly paid to get a wii
i now use wii fit as a scale lol

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

I actually think it would be a little bit different but not much if the prices still came out and dropped at the same rate. You think the PS3 will be fine? I hope but I'm starting to think it is not going to be possible. Publishers are going to start bailing soon. If Killzone doesn't sell ridiculously well, they are in serious trouble.

if things went differently. the price drops might not even have happened? but why speculate.

Haha true but I'm an analyst so it is in my nature. That is why I like the NPD numbers every month. Stuff is interesting to me.

yup i mean look at nintendo, the wii for the most part is kaka.. but it still sells like hot cakes. mainly because it appeals to the casual crowd. yes we knew that right? they have not had a single price drop in the 2 years its been out. what happened if nintendo dropped it even 50 bux heh. forget riots. people would freak. the wii is worth probaly 150 at best. but i guess when people want it. sell it for whatever there willing to pay
with that said. i am part of that crowd who suckerly paid to get a wii
i now use wii fit as a scale lol

My wife's mom got us a Wii for this Christmas. I was like ummmm great... Well boom blox is great and I always wanted to play more of SMG..other than that

I recently heard the Wii has a 6 dollar profit margin.

I think soccer moms should be renamed to Wii moms.

 

[FuryofFive]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: FuryofFive
if they were released at the same time. do you think we'd be having this kind of thread?

I actually think it would be a little bit different but not much if the prices still came out and dropped at the same rate. You think the PS3 will be fine? I hope but I'm starting to think it is not going to be possible. Publishers are going to start bailing soon. If Killzone doesn't sell ridiculously well, they are in serious trouble.

if things went differently. the price drops might not even have happened? but why speculate.

Haha true but I'm an analyst so it is in my nature. That is why I like the NPD numbers every month. Stuff is interesting to me.

yup i mean look at nintendo, the wii for the most part is kaka.. but it still sells like hot cakes. mainly because it appeals to the casual crowd. yes we knew that right? they have not had a single price drop in the 2 years its been out. what happened if nintendo dropped it even 50 bux heh. forget riots. people would freak. the wii is worth probaly 150 at best. but i guess when people want it. sell it for whatever there willing to pay
with that said. i am part of that crowd who suckerly paid to get a wii
i now use wii fit as a scale lol

My wife's mom got us a Wii for this Christmas. I was like ummmm great... Well boom blox is great and I always wanted to play more of SMG..other than that

I recently heard the Wii has a 6 dollar profit margin.

I think soccer moms should be renamed to Wii moms.

sadly enough..my mom loves the wii hah. bought her one w/ wiifit hah.
had to, to pry her hands off mine.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
I haven't touched my Wii in at least 6months.

So are you feeling a little...frustrated? :evil:


:Q


Sorry, I just had to go there.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: Queasy
CNN Money just called the PS3 a sinking ship.

(alleyinsider.com) -- Sony's (SNE) PS3 is dying on the shelves.

Alone among the three major videogame consoles, sales of the PS3 are down about 19% from November 2007, according to the latest stats from the NPD Group. Sony was only able to sell 378,000 PS3s this November, compared to 466,000 last year.

That's actually an article from Silicon Insider. CNN just picked it up.

That same guy wrote this as well.

Not Just The PS3: Sony's PSP Sales Stink Too

Not Just The PS3: Sony's PSP Sales Stink Too (SNE)
Eric Krangel | December 12, 2008 1:10 PM

Sales of Sony's (SNE) PS3 are plummeting as gamers flock to Nintendo's (NTDOY) Wii. But game consoles you hook up to your TV are only part of the market -- there's also a war in portable game players. And Nintendo is pounding the tar out of Sony there too.

Stats from the NPD group reveal Nintendo sold 1.57 million units of its Nintendo DS game console in the U.S. last month. Sony's PSP, the only other major player in the market, sold only 421,000 handheld consoles.

This despite Sony debuting a brand new version, the PSP 3000, in late October. In its first full month on sale and heading into the holidays, gamers couldn't care less.

What's wrong? The problems with the PSP are surprisingly similar to the problems with the PS3. It's overpriced ($170 to $130 for the DS Lite), has superior graphics no one cares about, and a mediocre game library. And because PSP console sales stink, game publishers are unlikely to devote resources to making more quality PSP titles.

Another problem: Apple (AAPL) has managed to get big game developers like Sega and Electronic Arts (ERTS) to build surprisingly good games for its iPhone and iPod touch, of which Apple sells millions. Many iPhone owners now have no reason to buy a PSP (or DS), especially for casual gaming.

Sony may be ready to cut its losses. British gaming site MCV reports no successor to the PSP is in the works.

I love my DS, but it was a gift. I kind of wanted one, but I don't know if I ever could have justified the cost. The PSP has a gorgeous screen, but I've never had any real desire to buy one. Plus I'd be paranoid about scratching said gorgeous screen.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Baked
Yawn... I still wouldn't buy a 360 if they sell it for $99. If by some miracle I suddenly have the urge to play all those awesome 1st and 3rd person shooters on that system, I would get it on PC. BTW, how many of those 360 were the $200 a pop gimped version?

Wii? Sold mine with all the "must have" 1st party games. But hey, if gimmicks and reiteration of the same games sell, more power to the Nintendo. They did get thrown in the back seat for many years when Sony bitch slapped them all over the place w/ PS1 and PS2.

Ps. Read a nice article on "Sony Takes 08, Microsoft Takes Price Cuts" last week.

/Sony fanboy

That ariticle is lol. How can he in any way shape or form claim Sony did well in 08? In what category? Certainly not hardware nor software sales. Which imo are the only things that count in the end. At the end of the year I am going to count up the top 10 sales for each console(Wii, PS3, and 360). The PS3 is going to get blown away in that category. And now the 360 doubled the PS3 hardware sales for november it will win that category as well. 09 Doesnt look any better as the 360 continues to reduce prices and gain more momentum.

Edit: People hoping for miracle game that makes use of PS3's hardware will be disappointed unless it is some exclusive. Otherwise they code to the lowest performing system and sell the game.

P.S. I own a Wii and PS3.

 

[abaez]

The scariest thing for Sony is that these are holiday sales. Imagine what March will look like?

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: abaez
The scariest thing for Sony is that these are holiday sales. Imagine what March will look like?

That's the point. They gambled that they didn't need to lower price during the holidays. So far, they're losing that gamble. The PS3 needs to come down some more in price or else it'll finish a distant third.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: Baked
Seems to me like you're the one who's drinking the MS koolaid. Why did you continue to support MS when they allowed the hardware problem to roll over from the original Xbox to the 360? You know it has a ridiculously high failure rate, but you still bought it, even before they came out w/ the 3 year warranty to shut people up. It only took MS 3 fucking years to "fix" the RRoD problem, and they still wouldn't admit there's a hardware problem w/ their 360. You have people who are on their 5th or 6th refurb 360. If it were me, I would've sold the refurb unit the 1st time it came back.

I wasn't aware the original XBOX had as many hardware problems as the 360. Care to back up that claim? Plus, I thought the extreme FREE extended warranty on the 360 hardware was Microsoft taking claim? No? Care to explain why Microsoft said they were extending warranty repair to 3 years on problems arising from those particular 3 quadrants lighting up red???

Then MS went ahead and dropped mad money buying out exclusive JRPGs and DLC promises so they can keep people interested while they send out another RRoD 360 back to MS. How long did it take for that sweet GTA4 DLC to come out on 360? Oh, that's right, after everybody forgot about the game. How's that JRPG working out for you? Not so good according to metacritic scores.

You act like such a PC fan in your other posts....how long does it take Valve to come out with their episodes for HL2? The GTA4 DLC is simply another episode, why do you honestly think this is a valid argument against your mortal enemy, the XBOX 360? It's less than 10 months between the game release and DLC release. I guess I didn't get the memo that DLC had to be released within 2 months afte a game.

Regardless of what you say, GTA4 is still heavily played. Check out this list of most played games on Live, where GTA4 still ranks 5th at the end of November: http://majornelson.com/archive...h-community-games.aspx

Yep, GTA4 has been completely forgotten!!! Sound the alarms!! And like someone else already said about the JRPG's released for the system...it's not Microsoft's fault some of them don't turn out good. But shit, every system has shitty JRPG's, unless your the PS3, and you have hardly ANY JRPG's to choose from at this point. Not that I care if the PS3 has any or not, you just sound bitter that Microsoft bought them all.

So what if digital polyphony is taking their sweet time to come out w/ a polished product instead of some junk that's subpar and buggy as hell. If you can't wait for the full version like the rest of the ADHD kids, there's always GT5 P. Say what? It's too expensive for a demo? If you have no problem paying $60 for GoW 1.5, $30 is nothing for a taste of what's to come for GT5. Even as a demo, it looks and feels better than Forza 2. And guess what, you can play GT5 P with 2 decent wheels, Driving Force GT and G25, on the PS3. In addition, G25 is 100% compatible w/ GT5 P, there's no reason it wouldn't support GT5.

I agree with you on most of this paragraph except the "GoW 1.5" comment. You said you still wouldn't buy a 360 even it were $99. Then are you qualified to comment on 360-exclusive games? Seriously, answer that for me.

If you want a killer graphics app for PS3, you don't have to wait for GT5 full version to come out, there are plenty of them available already. Heavenly Sword, a PS3 launch title looks gorgeous. Have you played any of PS3's 2008 releases? MGS4 looks epic, its production value alone surpasses anything that came out on the 360. BioShock, an excellent port that was exclusive to 360 and PC that came out a year ago is one of the best looking titles on PS3. I don't know what people are smoking, but I thought GTA4's attention to detail were very well done. It's a shame people are so stuck up on the FPS craze, 'cause media molecule's LittleBigPlanet is truly one of the most innovative titles to come out in years, with awesome, albeit cartoony, graphics to boot. How about WipEout HD? That's some serious 1080p eye candy right there.

I wish all your paragraphs on this forum were like this one, otherwise I wouldn't dislike you so much. You obviously can easily see where the PS3 shines (I agree with everything you said in the above paragraph), why do you have to shit on the 360 when it has it's strengths too? I just don't fucking get it.

 

[Queasy]

Gamasutra has the NPD top 20 software sales.

1. Gears of War 2 - 360
2. COD:W@W - 360
3. Wii Play - Wii
4. Wii Fit - Wii
5. Mario Kart - Wii
6. COD:W@W - PS3
7. GH:WT - Wii
8. Left 4 Dead - 360
9. Resistance 2 - PS3
10. Wii Music - Wii
11. Animal Crossing - Wii
12. Fallout 3 - 360
13. Rock Band - Wii
14. Pokemon Ranger - DS
15. GH:WT - 360
16. Mario Kart - DS
17. GH:WT - PS2
18. WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2009 - PS2
19. Fable II - 360
20. Madden 09 - 360

Combined, the Nintendo DS and Wii accounted for nine spots in the top 20, while the Xbox 360 claimed seven. Sony's PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 each had two titles in the top 20.

Nintendo's Animal Crossing: City Folk ranked 11th for the month, just behind Wii Music, which is known to have sold 297,000 units in November. At 12th, Bethesda's Fallout 3 for the Xbox 360 fell from its October debut in the number 3 spot.

Interestingly, Rock Band for the Wii -- the original game, not the sequel -- came in at number 13. Demand may have been driven by deep retailer discounts during November intended to clear stock before the launch of the Wii version of Rock Band 2 in December.

Rock Band's primary competition, Activision Blizzard's Guitar Hero: World Tour, took three spots in the top 20. The Wii version was 7th with 475,000 units in November while the Xbox 360 version ranked 15th and the PlayStation 2 version reached 17th.

Two Nintendo DS games made the top 20: Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia at #14 and Mario Kart at #16. The latter is particularly interesting, given that it launched three years ago in November 2005.

THQ's popular wrestling series continued to deliver on Sony's PlayStation 2, with WWE Smackdown vs. RAW 2009 placing 18th for the month.

Two Xbox 360 games round out the top 20. First, Microsoft's own Fable II dropped from the number one spot the month before down to 19th in November.

According to Microsoft, the title sold 184,000 units in November and currently stands at just under a million units since its launch. Finally the Xbox 360 version of Madden NFL 09 from Electronic Arts ranked 20th.

 

[Queasy]

Wow - Valkyria Chronicles sold only 33k units and didn't even crack the top 100 games of November. This despite having almost the entire month of November (it was released on the 4th). Shame as it seems to be a pretty well done SRPG.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Wow - Valkyria Chronicles sold only 33k units and didn't even crack the top 100 games of November. This despite having almost the entire month of November (it was released on the 4th). Shame as it seems to be a pretty well done SRPG.

Yeah it looked awesome. This will be the first game I buy if/when I buy a PS3.

Even more crazy is that LBP isn't even in the top 20. Epic fail.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: Queasy
Wow - Valkyria Chronicles sold only 33k units and didn't even crack the top 100 games of November. This despite having almost the entire month of November (it was released on the 4th). Shame as it seems to be a pretty well done SRPG.

Yeah it looked awesome. This will be the first game I buy if/when I buy a PS3.

Even more crazy is that LBP isn't even in the top 20. Epic fail.

I'm not sure WTF LBP is supposed to be so I sure as fuck won't spent a penny on it. Sony needs to bring real games to its system. Where the fuck is Grand Turismo? And I'm not talking about some $40 demo.

Unlike the PS1 and PS2 days, it seems like Sony isn't as hungry for gamers' money. Bullshit titles like LBP and Home will never get a second of my playtime.

 

[tk149]

I really wonder about all the talk about "PS3 has failed" or "360 has failed." As long as each company makes a tidy profit, does it really matter who's in first or last? As long as games are ported (with some kind of quality control) across multiple platforms, we all win.

Nintendo obviously is printing money. MS's console division was making money, but that was before all the 360 price drops. Are they still profitable? Is Sony still losing money per PS3 sold, even though BD drives have dropped in price?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Its really sad. The PS3 has had many quality games come out. However, they don't cater enough to the masses. Valkyria Chronicles was one of the best Tactrical Shooter/RPG type games I've ever played, but sadly, looks like people don't like the style it used. Same with games like LBP. Great Quality, not enough catering to the masses.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: Baked
So what if digital polyphony is taking their sweet time to come out w/ a polished product instead of some junk that's subpar and buggy as hell. If you can't wait for the full version like the rest of the ADHD kids, there's always GT5 P. Say what? It's too expensive for a demo? If you have no problem paying $60 for GoW 1.5, $30 is nothing for a taste of what's to come for GT5. Even as a demo, it looks and feels better than Forza 2. And guess what, you can play GT5 P with 2 decent wheels, Driving Force GT and G25, on the PS3. In addition, G25 is 100% compatible w/ GT5 P, there's no reason it wouldn't support GT5.

Gran Turismo: Prologue has nothing that I'd want over Forza. It didn't even come with the ability to race with your friends when it launched. Does it even have that feature now?

 

[rocadelpunk]

I'm in the same boat of people whose wii is collecting dust.

I'm giving it till the 1to1 adapter comes out. If no good games come from that I'll sell.

 

[ed21x]

Sony failed to captitalize on BluRay for the ps3 as a major selling point because they priced their system higher than the cost of their rivals PLUS a BluRay player. Really, pricing above all else killed the ps3, which is a shame because Sony could've been in a fabulous position if they had just stuck with the ps2 strategy of pricing the console only slightly higher than its standalone DVD counterpart. Unfortunately, Sony knew that dropping the price of the ps3 could potentially out compete their in-house BluRay standalone players. This was not a conflict of interest for the ps2 because sony was using the ps2 dvd player to compete against DVD players of other companies due to it being an open format, while BluRay, they are pretty much the main providers of the format, so sales of ps3 and Sony BluRay players competed directly against one another...

 

[Dumac]

God, LBP and Valkyria Chronicles are some of the best games to come out in months. It's sad that nobody seems to like them

I makes me cry when game types that I like don't get appreciation via sales..

There were so many great games released in the past that no new game can even compare to

 

[Fardringle]

I'm not intending this as a shot against the PS3. It's a very powerful console with great potential, so don't get your panties in a bunch.

Regarding the Little Big Planet and Valkyria Chronicles sales numbers, my personal opinion is that Valkyria may be a good game, but nothing I have seen about it (screenshots, videos, reviews, etc.) give me any reason to want to play it, and I love playing computer RPGs. The anime drawing style (the women look like advertisements for plastic surgery clinics and the men look like women who need some of that plastic surgery) annoys me and I wish game developers would stop using it so much.

Little Big Planet actually looks creative and entertaining, but it's a pretty blatant attempt (in my opinion) to capture the attention of people who like games like Nintendo's Animal Crossing. However, anyone that is going to play that game probably already has a Wii and isn't going to spend $600 for a new console just to play a game similar to what they already have.