Nova-explores how and why dogs evolved from wolves in less than 10,000 years

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DWW

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Amused
If selective breeding can have that dramatic an effect on dogs in such a short time, what kind of effect has slavery and the selective breeding that comes with it had on humans?
Not much I'd say since the time period was much shorter although you certainly could breed larger, stronger humans if you wanted to.
Already been done. They're called Canadians. *SWOOSH*.

Anyway, what sort of developmentally challenged scourge on humanity doesn't like dogs?

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Amused

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Amused
If selective breeding can have that dramatic an effect on dogs in such a short time, what kind of effect has slavery and the selective breeding that comes with it had on humans?
Not much I'd say since the time period was much shorter although you certainly could breed larger, stronger humans if you wanted to.

These folks noticed signifigant changes in just 10 generations. Many cultures had slaves and selectivly bred them for far longer than 10 generations.
 

XZeroII

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This is common knowledge. It's been known for decades that this works. They use this a TON in lab mice. That's how they got specific breeds of perfect mice for lab experiments. With dogs, you can get rid of tails, or make them longer simply by breeding the dogs with the longest (or shortest) tails over and over again through generations.

Just because we can do it in the lab quickly doesn't mean that it happened that way in the real world though. Evolution is about mistakes and just plain luck.
 

rh71

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Dogs rule. All they ask for is food, water, and exercise and they're your personal companion for life (unlike cats who wander as they please ;) ). I wish they lived longer. :(
 

Vic

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IIRC, wolves in the wild have their own strict selective breeding control system. Only the dominant alpha pair out of every pack is allowed to breed, and any pups that are born with even the slightest visible mutation are killed immediately.
It seems only obvious that this is what has kept the wolves' appearance so unchanged over the millennia, and how human interference in their breeding could cause such rapid changes.
 

kage69

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uh, that is a flat out lie. God made them seperately. Enough with this evolution nonesense


I'm not sure if I should laugh or feel sad for you :confused:
 
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Originally posted by: rh71
Dogs rule. All they ask for is food, water, and exercise and they're your personal companion for life (unlike cats who wander as they please ;) ). I wish they lived longer. :(

Paraphrasing here.

"Humans give dogs the food they can spare, the time they can spare, and the love they can spare. In return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal mankind has ever made."

- M4H
 

MAME

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: MAME
uh, that is a flat out lie. God made them seperately. Enough with this evolution nonesense
FlameTech Rating: 3 (of possible 10).

<reads more fine print>
"Not applicable to sarcastic remarks"

Sorry Fausto, can't use it here.
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
It still doesn't explain how the Klingons evolved so fast.

God d@mnit, if someone would host this MP3 I have, it will explain that totally.

EDIT: Alright, looks like M4H is going to host it
 

Mookow

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Well now, since someone cant remember his password, I guess you guys will have to use your favorite P2P program to get the song...

"The USS Make Sh*t Up" by Voltaire is what the ID3 tag reads.