Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris on Fire

[obidamnkenobi]

post-fire forensics is generally quite precise at tracking down the origins of nearly any kind of fire. Down to a single oily rag in a trashcan that would have been consumed, most likely.

Also consider how that massive hundred-thousand acre fires in CA can always be tracked back to a single campfire.

I do this for a living, and yes and no. It's very challenging, like solving a murder except the victim, crime scene and weapon are mostly/totally gone.. Best you can hope for is usually "most likely of the possible theories based on available evidence". But considering; yes it can be quite impressive how accurately we can determine cause and origin.

Hot work from construction sounds very plausible in this case, very common. I'm both surprised and not that they didn't take more precautions with fire watches etc during construction

 

[K1052]

 

[Oyeve]

That scaffold is still standing. Amazing.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Can you at least provide a link? Or are you just making this up out of your ass?

This is horrible to watch on TV, turned it off.

I refuse to link to sites like Breitbart etc... but, as I said, feel free to go read the comments on the story there. Go to freerepublic and read the comments there. Venture over to OANN and read the comments there. Go to literally any conservative site as I said and look for yourself. Hell someone tried to go there on Fox News and to his credit Shep Smith cut them right off. Of course conservatives are mad about that too.

 

[K1052]

I'm kind of more impressed the stone vault appears to have caught much of the roof structure and not collapsed, much anyway.

 

[Commodus]

France 24 is saying officials believe the core structure of Notre Dame will survive. It's still a horrible loss, but this won't be the end of the building.

 

[ivwshane]

I'm guessing they were behind on their leaf raking./s

 

[Azraele]

What a terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to those in Paris. I have read salvage efforts are underway, so hoping they cn save as much as possible.

 

[JSt0rm]

By all means, feel free to start a YATT that will cover his response(s) and people's thoughts about said comments. Seriously, please do so that we can keep this one about the historic loss.

Whatever thread sheriff.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Let's tell Trump that this was done by forces that have been opposing his wall and the only way that will ever be built if to restore the cathedral first.

 

[NAC4EV]

As the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris burned Monday, U.S. President Donald Trump tweeted that France should use “flying water tankers” to put out the blaze as firefighters fought to save one of the country’s most iconic landmarks.

If they do that, they will collapse the remaining structure.
What a moron

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Thanks, wikipedia.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Apparently they saved pretty much everything, which is good news.

The stained glass windows are not broken glass....so sad!!

 

[esquared]

president smoothbrains knocks another one out of the park.

smoothbrains indeed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-suggests-using-apos-191117493.html

https://twitter.com/x/status/1117874924268376064

Wayne McPartland, a retired New York City Fire Department battalion chief, told CNBC that aerial tankers are not the answer at Notre Dame.
“If you hit that with tons of water from above, that’s going to collapse the entire structure and make the situation worse,” McPartland said. “If you miss, you might hit civilians in the street.”

What a dumbass. Just as bad as his "Finland rakes its leaves to prevent forest fires" comment.

 

[NAC4EV]

Professional firefighters called Trump's proposal impractical at best. Deploying the kinds of airplanes used to fight forest fires would be dangerous in an urban area, they said, noting that force of the water could knock the building down and threaten firefighters on the ground.

"The drop of water by air on this type of building could indeed result in the collapse of the entire structure," the French government civil defense agency tweeted.

 

[NAC4EV]

Professional firefighters called Trump's proposal impractical at best. Deploying the kinds of airplanes used to fight forest fires would be dangerous in an urban area, they said, noting that force of the water could knock the building down and threaten firefighters on the ground.

"The drop of water by air on this type of building could indeed result in the collapse of the entire structure," the French government civil defense agency tweeted.

 

[K1052]

There are some pics of the interior on Twitter. Only one part of the stone vault collapsed, I presume where the spire came down, so it’s not nearly as bad as it could have been.

 

[JEDIYoda]

There are some pics of the interior on Twitter. Only one part of the stone vault collapsed, I presume where the spire came down, so it’s not nearly as bad as it could have been.

Descibe not nearly as bad????? That is a total understatement!

 

[NAC4EV]

A Reuters photographer took images showing the damage inside Monday night:






A drone caught this aerial view

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Damn the far right is really going off on this trying to blame immigration/muslims. Just a small collection in this thread.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1117860027954597888

 

[Luna1968]

Horrible loss, the stained glass and woodwork in the cathedral were master works. So sad

 

[IronWing]

nm, wrong thread

 

[Jhhnn]

It is a disgrace to America that our President is nothing than a twitter troll.

Trump. It's all about him. Everything.

 

[brycejones]

Trump. It's all about him. Everything.

Careful you’ll trigger the resident thread sheriff.

 

[Luna1968]

I saw on the news that all the copper statues and gargoyles were taken down a few days ago to be cleaned.