And clearly this generation they are partly negating the benefit of responsive screens with unnecessarily long animation times. Windows Phone had the same problem, and I'm the biggest proponent of Windows Phone you'll find.
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And clearly this generation they are partly negating the benefit of responsive screens with unnecessarily long animation times. Windows Phone had the same problem, and I'm the biggest proponent of Windows Phone you'll find.
Suspicious-Teach8788
Lifer
Still processing as we speak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlvki2Imfaw). Feel free to ignore the audio.
The Maps test really begins at 0:30.
Notice that response lag. My N4 films at 30fps only, but you can still see some stutter here and there in Google Maps. It's certainly not smooth in my eyes either, indicating it was likely well below 60 fps.
The Maps test really begins at 0:30.
Notice that response lag. My N4 films at 30fps only, but you can still see some stutter here and there in Google Maps. It's certainly not smooth in my eyes either, indicating it was likely well below 60 fps.
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I'd guess there is latency in swiping because the software has to recognize what you're trying to do: tap, long tap or swipe.
Audio latency isn't straightforward either. There is latency caused by the electronics, software processing etc but also latency from sound traveling thru air (though it's generally negligible). Different audio drivers report latency differently so that 4ms you get from ASIO might not be the complete truth.
For visual latency I'd say we are far less sensitive to it. For example the average LCD display alone has input latency ranging from about 10 to 40ms depending on the model. Add to that the latency for LCD pixels transitioning from one state to another (6-16ms) and finally any latency that occurs in rendering that image.
So in short audio and visual lag aren't comparable although both do become disorienting if the lag is too long. Just by changing how long transition animations take on a phone can make it feel much faster.
BTW, did you guys know that iOS and Android have a 300ms latency on web pages before events (like clicking on a button) are fired so that the system can detect if you tapped once or double tapped?
PS. I tried Google Maps on my GS4 and don't notice lag - if there is any it could be any number of things from touch lag to rendering taking a while.
Did you turn on glove mode? I believe this changes things a bit.
So it turns out that the iPhone version of the test app had a unique optimization (see Update) that skewed results.
And now, the Note 3 is the fastest. As I suggested, you'll want to turn on glove mode.
And now, the Note 3 is the fastest. As I suggested, you'll want to turn on glove mode.
WelshBloke
Lifer
Lol what does this change? So it took a flagship Android from 2013 to finally marginally de crown the iPhone. You have to enable touch sensitivity no less. The top ten is mostly Apple devices and the S4 is on par with a 3.5 yr old iPhone 4.
Is this supposed to be impressive? Lol
Edit: As it seems, they turned off touch optimizations on the iPhone and got 72ms. While they turned on touch sensitivity for the Note3. Doesn't seem like a fair fight to me as the iPhone gets 55ms with the optimizations on, beating the Note 3.
Is this supposed to be impressive? Lol
Edit: As it seems, they turned off touch optimizations on the iPhone and got 72ms. While they turned on touch sensitivity for the Note3. Doesn't seem like a fair fight to me as the iPhone gets 55ms with the optimizations on, beating the Note 3.
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WelshBloke
Lifer
When your wrong its best not to look butthurt over it.
But for the record.
I'll take it that your not going to change your OP then? 😀
ponyo
Lifer
You're sad man. You were jumping up and down excited when you thought iPhone 5s had the fastest touch sensitivity. Now you find out the entire point of your original thread was wrong and totally incorrect and Samsung Android phone is actually the fastest. Rather than admit and correct the mistake with a title change, you dismiss it and say you aren't impressed? You sure seemed impressed when you thought the iPhone was the fastest.
WelshBloke
Lifer
They turned off touch optimizations for the iPhone while turning them on for the Note 3
Is high touch sensitivity turned off by default? If so, the S4 and Note 3 are even worse than previously thought out of the box.
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Phone Touch Delay Notes
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 67 ms All gestures disabled, High touch sensitivity enabled
Samsung Galaxy S4 91 ms All gestures disabled, High touch sensitivity enabled
Samsung Galaxy S4 120 ms All gestures enabled, High touch sensitivity enabled
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 134 ms All gestures enabled, High touch sensitivity enabled
Samsung Galaxy S4 165 ms All gestures enabled, High touch sensitivity disabled
openwheel
Platinum Member
WelshBloke
Lifer
They turned off optimisations in the benchmark for the iPhone, they turned off touch gestures on the Note 3 device.
WelshBloke
Lifer
No. The benchmark was inconsistent across iOS and Android devices. It had optimizations for iOS that weren't there for Android. The iPhone 5 is 75ms at stock measuring the same thing as the Note 3.
Wow man you are something.
The note 3 has options to increase speed response but the actual benchmark SOFTWARE on iOS has another optimization that boosts scores that's only on the iOS version of the APP
Run that optimization on the note 3 to get apples to apples numbers.that optimization has been removed from the iOS version of the software because its not present in the android version.
The note 3 will score even higher if it had a cheater version of the app
WelshBloke
Lifer
So you going to change the thread title?
I'm thinking
Would be fair?
TBH I didn't care about this when Apple was fastest and I still dont care now. Its just funny because of the OPs motives.
I'm thinking
Would be fair?
TBH I didn't care about this when Apple was fastest and I still dont care now. Its just funny because of the OPs motives.
WelshBloke
Lifer
Or
That seems accurate as well.
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That seems accurate as well.
:sneaky:
Ah gotcha. Kind of begs the question why the benchmarking tool is inconsistent in the first place. The Note 3 is the fastest if gestures off and touch sensitivity on.
WelshBloke
Lifer
Benchmarking mobile hardware is ridiculously difficult.
The range of hardware, software, and usage patterns makes it useless. Best just to find a reviewer you trust and get them to give you a subjective analysis of a product and use some common sense.
The Note 3 has a high sensitivity mode if you want it and its got a lot of gesture based stuff which would interfere with benchmarking.
Edit: And stop being reasonable! I was having fun with my headlines. 😀 😛
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