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Note 4 (now $200 rebate with any $10+ trade-in!)

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hm...used Note4 or Lumia1520 and $100 in my pocket. I already have a stylus capable device via surface pro.



decisions decisions. thanks for input all.
 
hm...used Note4 or Lumia1520 and $100 in my pocket. I already have a stylus capable device via surface pro.



decisions decisions. thanks for input all.

Even without the stylus, the Note 4 is a great phone IMO. The only downside is that given what we've seen happen to the S6, the Note 4 is probably the peak of Samsung's phones and its all downhill from here.
 
Hey guys is $400 for a used one in slightly above average shape a decent deal? I've not heard any note 4 user say anything really negative about the note 4. I don't really use the s pen on the note 2 when I had it. I also have 4 phones so my wife might divorce me if I buy another one.
 
ATT Note 4 users, can you access your Additional Settings (under the Call Settings) without getting this error?

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Did you upgrade to lollipop? It's called more settings on mine now, and I don't get that error.

sorry...I just grabbed that screen print off one of the forums I saw last night...

You are correct....it is called More Settings and I still get the error...

here is shot of my screen I just took a few minutes ago with the error...
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According to the posts I read, it only happens with the ATT Note 4's where the baseband was updated. Someone got ATT to flash it back to N910AUCU1ANIE and the problem went away for them.

My baseband version is N910AUCU1COC2.
 
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I just got version 5.1.1 on at&t. It's far too early to give an opinion of it yet though. Just wanted to spread the word.
 
Read somewhere that T-Mobile will be updating the Note4 to Marshmallow, so that's makes me even more motivated to keep this phone for the foreseeable future.
 
I just got version 5.1.1 on at&t. It's far too early to give an opinion of it yet though. Just wanted to spread the word.
Forced my update. The first thing I notice is new transition animations when you close, open and switch apps. Makes things feel smoother, even if it's not really any faster in reality.

Edit: Actually these animations might not be new. I'm starting to think I had them disabled before and they just got enabled again after the update
 
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I miss my Note 4. I don't regret getting rid of it because I got a Surface Pro 2 out of the deal, but I DO regret getting my S6 and I'm looking at buying another Note 4 instead of the Moto X Pure. Expansys has the unlocked N910C for $510
 
Even without the stylus, the Note 4 is a great phone IMO. The only downside is that given what we've seen happen to the S6, the Note 4 is probably the peak of Samsung's phones and its all downhill from here.

iPhones are built like a tank and the batteries are infinitely more user replaceable when pitted against the S6 / Note 5.

Hard to believe this is the also same company that gave us user removable batteries only just one year ago.
 
iPhones are built like a tank and the batteries are infinitely more user replaceable when pitted against the S6 / Note 5.

Hard to believe this is the also same company that gave us user removable batteries only just one year ago.
Sad but true. For the "oh it doesn't matter" crowd, I can't wait until the battery life is total shit on their older S6 or N5 (sorry, batteries on devices wear out over time) and now it's time to buy a whole new device rather than just swap in a $20 battery.

Welcome to AppleSung.
 
Sad but true. For the "oh it doesn't matter" crowd, I can't wait until the battery life is total shit on their older S6 or N5 (sorry, batteries on devices wear out over time) and now it's time to buy a whole new device rather than just swap in a $20 battery.

Welcome to AppleSung.

I thought a factory battery replacement through a Samsung service center was like $45 for the S6 + shipping. Couple cities where you can drop it off in person.

For something you might do every couple years if you were so inclined, it doesn't seem terrible. I doubt I'll still have my Note 5 in a couple years (still on the yearly change cycle), but if I wanted to give it to a family member, I'd probably do that, put on a new screen protector, and let them go at it.

I love my note 4. Never getting rid of it.

I've owned all the Notes - I'm happier with the Note 5 than the Note 4. I think a lot of people would be surprised if they gave it a shot.
 
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I've owned all the Notes - I'm happier with the Note 5 than the Note 4. I think a lot of people would be surprised if they gave it a shot.

Note 5 is definitely a nice looking device and feels good in the hand. But, like the S6, it has the same flaws. No removable battery (I carried a spare in my wallet, went days without plugging in, S6 barely lasts 12 hours with about an hour of SoT), no expendable storage, and it feels extremely slippery and fragile.
 
I've owned all the Notes - I'm happier with the Note 5 than the Note 4. I think a lot of people would be surprised if they gave it a shot.

Unless I turned on the note 5 and it had 64 extra gigs of storage, no I won't be surprised. The note 5 is physically incapable of being my primary device without offering a 128gig version.
 
Unless I turned on the note 5 and it had 64 extra gigs of storage, no I won't be surprised. The note 5 is physically incapable of being my primary device without offering a 128gig version.

I had a 128GB card in my Note 4 and carried around basically a ton of files/images along with a dozen 1080p movies and my entire music library. It was convenient and I was worried about the switch to a 64GB Note 5. Basically I now only carry around 4-5 1080p movies and maybe the top 1000 songs I listen to. Still leaves me plenty of space for pictures/images.

So yes it took a change in my media storage habits. What I've found is that it's made no day to day difference in my life as most of the stuff I carried I never used over months. The improved fingerprint scanner and low light camera give me far more value on a regular basis.

For those that have to have 128GB+ storage, it's fair. But I really do think for 98% of people who think they need it, it's not much of a change not to.
 
I had a 128GB card in my Note 4 and carried around basically a ton of files/images along with a dozen 1080p movies and my entire music library. It was convenient and I was worried about the switch to a 64GB Note 5. Basically I now only carry around 4-5 1080p movies and maybe the top 1000 songs I listen to. Still leaves me plenty of space for pictures/images.

So yes it took a change in my media storage habits. What I've found is that it's made no day to day difference in my life as most of the stuff I carried I never used over months. The improved fingerprint scanner and low light camera give me far more value on a regular basis.

For those that have to have 128GB+ storage, it's fair. But I really do think for 98% of people who think they need it, it's not much of a change not to.

It's 2015 and if I wanted the note 5 I can't get the same mp3 storage space I had in 2005 (and that was just for an mp3 player, let alone all the pics and apps that have to share space now). I find that fundamentally wrong with how technology has progressed. Absolutely mind boggling that a higher capacity isn't even an option.
 
It's 2015 and if I wanted the note 5 I can't get the same mp3 storage space I had in 2005 (and that was just for an mp3 player, let alone all the pics and apps that have to share space now). I find that fundamentally wrong with how technology has progressed. Absolutely mind boggling that a higher capacity isn't even an option.

If anybody put out a 256gb phone (as much storage as my laptop!) it would be a $1500 device.
 
If anybody put out a 256gb phone (as much storage as my laptop!) it would be a $1500 device.

My Note 4 has 32gb builtin and I have a 128gb card for 160gb total. The highest capacity note 5 is 64. Thats a 96gb difference. Thats way too big of a difference for me to even consider a note 5. If it came with 128 I would think about it. But

1. no msd
2. 64gb max
3. removal of battery change option
4. removal of IR blaster

equals too much taken away from the note 4 and what little changes on the note 5 just doesnt compare to getting this at all.
 
It's 2015 and if I wanted the note 5 I can't get the same mp3 storage space I had in 2005 (and that was just for an mp3 player, let alone all the pics and apps that have to share space now). I find that fundamentally wrong with how technology has progressed. Absolutely mind boggling that a higher capacity isn't even an option.

I hear you but it's not really my point. For most users, it's likely just a theoretical roadblock that doesn't impact real world usability. Yes there will always be a tiny niche that really finds regular value in a ton of mobile storage.

I did like having 160GB total on my Note 4 but nothing changed in my life in switching to a 64GB Note 5. I just ended up not carrying media files that I almost never used in a period of months. For a lot of users who don't *think* they can give up mSD, I really do think it's mostly a mental block.

If you really need that much storage, then you absolutely should stick with the Note 4. I found the poor fingerprint scanner and average (for today) focus speed and low light camera performance far more daily impacting. Also the Note 4 needed a custom ROM to run smoothly while the Note 5 can do so stock.
 
Sad but true. For the "oh it doesn't matter" crowd, I can't wait until the battery life is total shit on their older S6 or N5 (sorry, batteries on devices wear out over time) and now it's time to buy a whole new device rather than just swap in a $20 battery.

Welcome to AppleSung.

True enough, it's also true that these days quick charging still puts a bit more stress on lithium batteries.

I think it's a part of the decision by Apple to forgo quick charging as an official on feature their iPhone 6 despite some people MacGuyering ways to do it.

When I charge the batteries for my phone I usually use an external charger that outputs 0.6 amps instead of the 2 amp from the included charging brick.

Sure it takes 4 times as long to charge but that's not an issue if you have 3 or more batteries to work with.


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