Makaveli
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Hmm didn't I already read this thread at [H]?
You did I just saw this same post there. lol so i'm just going to recycle my reponse on there aswell.
Hmm didn't I already read this thread at [H]?
it had more than enough airflow for a basic pc and I even added a fan the day I bought it just to be safe. I have had other HP and Compaq computers for years with no parts failing because of heat as temps were never a prob. in fact I had basically the same pc here and the hd temps were in the upper 30s the times that I checked.It could be a crap case that doesn't provide any cooling for the harddrive. If the harddrive has no circulation and it's running at 60C, why would anyone be surprised if it broke?
Wow, a lot of WD love. I wonder what this thread would look like if the OP had mentioned it was a Seagate drive.
its funny because if I built the pc myself that same hard drive would have had a 3 year warranty.
its the same hard drive that can be purchased so again stop blaming it on the pc being pre built because that has nothing to do with it from a mechanical stand point.
that may be your theory but I have owned several Compaq/HP comps and hard drives in those have been the EXACT same models that can be purchased separately. even if they dont "test" the ones they send to builders the drive took a year before anything started going wrong.Well, I think that you are just plain wrong there. OEMs can and do spec lower-quality parts, for cheaper. You want longer warranties and reliability? Buy retail drives, and test them to make sure they're not DOA.
I can (and do) see this on power supplies, motherboards, cases, and other components.OEM's (Compaq, etc..) do routinely buy drives from HD manufacturers that are lower spec than what the HD manufacturer sells through it's retail channels.
lol. not really sense the warranty would cost more than the hard drive anyway. really a hard drive or power supply are about the only two things that are likely to fail. I guess this time it caught up with me but if I think of how much I have saved over the years then its okay.So the solution is simple. Next time you purchase a prebuilt PC, when the saleperson asks you if you want to pay for an extended warranty, you say YES!
The major failures I see are (in order):really a hard drive or power supply are about the only two things that are likely to fail.
Well, I think that you are just plain wrong there. OEMs can and do spec lower-quality parts, for cheaper. You want longer warranties and reliability? Buy retail drives, and test them to make sure they're not DOA.
so are you actually claiming that retail and oem drives like the ones at newegg are the only ones that are QC tested?? if true then that is pretty pathetic but I do have a hard time believing they send out drives to system builders they havent passed QC.He doesnt get it, i told him that in the first post. I used to work for a system builder and i can gurantee that they use lower quality parts with lower warranty. They may be the same model number but that just means that that particular batch hasnt passed the companies retail drive QC test. My company bought drives all the time with the same model number as retail but they were sold with a 30 day warranty for as much as 40% less.
Sorry, but I'm having a hard time imagining any company that would build PCs using hard drives that had failed QC tests or hadn't been tested at all.They may be the same model number but that just means that that particular batch hasnt passed the companies retail drive QC test. My company bought drives all the time with the same model number as retail but they were sold with a 30 day warranty for as much as 40% less.
so they have three different lines of hard drives? retail, oem and ones the get shipped to builders? heck with WD their normal oem drives have a longer warranty than their retail drives. sorry but what you are saying makes little sense for hard drives.Im not saying they didnt pass QC, im saying they didnt get as high mark/rating as the retail drives. Its like ATI/Nvidia, they hand pick GPU's for the OC edition cards, same idea with HDD's companies will sell there highest quality drives retail box with longer warranty and lower quality as OEM with shorter warranty.
Hehehe...that one I can understand. Maxtor hard drives from the first half of this decade typically had an abnormally short lifespan. One of Maxtor's acqusitions, Miniscribe, was accused of reboxing returned drives and shipping them out as new drives. Any hard drive maker selling drives that'd failed QC would, uh....be out of business soon.Pretty much covered DOA and thats it. I remember one batch(300+ drives) of Maxtor drives we got in with 30 day warranty and %90 of them ended up coming back within 3 months, Im pretty sure those ones were sold to us after failing QC.
I just recently had a Seagate go TU. First Dead Seagate, Ever, since 2002, and I'm sure Mob Mentality would love to come and tell me all about "Deathgate", but it's still my first and only dead Seagate since starting to use them in 2002...
I guess this time it caught up with me but if I think of how much I have saved over the years then its okay.
Actually yeah a lot of people will tell you to stay the hell away from Seagate. If you don't already know, Maxtor and Seagate are the same company. The two Seagate drives I bought recently make that classic Maxtor clicking noise. It's only a matter of time before they fuck up and I need to replace them with Western Digital drives.