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Butterbean

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Sounds like somebody's jealous of the group that got 1.3 million people to register and (most likely) vote for Obama. Republican tears hitting a keyboard make quite an unusual sound. ;)

Sounds like someone doesn't care id a corrupt Marxist outfit turns election into Miceky Mosue theft. If there are any tears its America crying for all the degenerates that cheeer Acorn and Obama's thugocracy.


Why Mickey Mouse's vote for the Democrats could rebound on Obama's chances of becoming U.S. president

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ces-U-S-president.html
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

Again, nice diversion attempt but this thread isn't about your second paragraph - it's about BHO and ACORN fraud. You rabid BHO bots are hilarious - you come in here diverting and deflecting and then try to claim that I am doing that... :p I started the thread, I posted the topic and have attempted to stay on that topic despite your best attempts and derailing it.

Now please- stay on topic or leave the thread.

<- wonders why no action is being taken against those trolling this thread... oh wait... no I don't.

And there you go again. You didn't answer the question, you avoided it.

What relationship is there between Obama and ACORN fraud? None that you can prove apparently.

Oh wait, daring to ask that question makes me a "rabid BHO bot."

Exactly when did you stop beating your wife, CAD?

Bullshit - I did answer it. Go read. Also, your revised question is just another in a long line of BHO apologist strawmen.

You have become a joke Vic. You'll realize it someday when you wake up but damn - you've totally lost all rationality when it comes to BHO.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

He's a classic case of a person who has acquired a lot of information but doent have the insight to make sense of it properly. Mis-education is worse than ignorance.

And you're a classic case of a typical fascist. :roll:

No, seriously, BB, you're the biggest craziest moron here. If sanity is defined by the ability to rationalize objectively, then you're as insane as they come. I bet it royally screws up your real life, the way you only see what you believe, instead of believing what you see.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Also, it's laughable for you or anyone else to consider a co-sponsered amnesty rally attended by McCain with BHO's ties to ACORN. You apologists are funny. Divert, play apologist, attempt weak ass rationalization....etc Absolutely pathetic...

Tell us, CAD, what makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's? Serious question.

Your last 3 sentences are what you do in every post, so at least the irony is at your usual comic level.
I don't give a rats ass about McCain - I was commenting on people trying to divert to McCain and then try to equate their association levels. It's patently absurd based on what the diverters posted here. If there is more on McCain - fine but speaking at an amnesty rally co-sponsored by ACORN is nothing compared to what BHO's association with them is. There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious.

ACORN itself is a corrupt(or at minimum willingly inept) organization who enables fraud.

Now enough with the diversions, read the OP. It has nothing to do with McCain or whatever other BS you people want to diver with.

Pal, you are like the living, breathing, rabidly posting fountain of diversions.

Answer the question. What makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's? You don't even know. You just want to pin ACORN on Obama and you don't have a damn thing but to hope that repeating the 2 names together as much as possible will make it so. And then when someone demands proof, you divert by labeling them an apologist. Rinse. Repeat.

And it's not like there aren't Republican-oriented organizations who get mixed up in similar voter fraud. Bill Sizemore's Oregon Taxpayers United (primarily anti-union activism) has been directly involved in the exact same kind of voter fraud every single year here for the past 15 years. Hell, he's been successfully sued for millions for racketeering and fraud, and we had to pass a law making it so political organizations couldn't pay signature gatherers per signature (for registration or for petition to get a measure on the ballot) just because of Sizemore. And he's a Republican with vague ties to McCain. Oh noes, I'll be like you and try to make a mountain out of molehill!!

READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

Again, nice diversion attempt but this thread isn't about your second paragraph - it's about BHO and ACORN fraud. You rabid BHO bots are hilarious - you come in here diverting and deflecting and then try to claim that I am doing that... :p I started the thread, I posted the topic and have attempted to stay on that topic despite your best attempts and derailing it.

Now please- stay on topic or leave the thread.

<- wonders why no action is being taken against those trolling this thread... oh wait... no I don't.
Well you aren't a Mod so you are in no position to tell others to stay strictly on topic, which BTW, no Moderator does. Secondly it all has to do with the desperate attacks made by the McCain Campaign which this is one of so anything about them is fair game in this thread. However if you think there is some unfair bias against you by the Moderating Staff here feel free to PM Derek. That said knock off the innuendos about Mod Bias or you will be taking some time away from these forums, probably until after the election.

:roll: "good" to see some things never change....

Me making this thread had NOTHING to do with McCain. I know you and the other apologists want to try to use that deflection but it doesn't change the facts.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

He's a classic case of a person who has acquired a lot of information but doent have the insight to make sense of it properly. Mis-education is worse than ignorance.

:laugh:

I'm shocked! A butterbean post without a random homosexual reference!

I'm not shocked - that your like the 17th person here who actually keeps track of homosexual posts.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Here I am, at least attempting to discuss this ACORN issue with a straight face, and half my points get ignored.

Here it is again - the guy in your OP link, Darnell Nash, seems downright determined to vote more than once. Even the article you cited makes it sound like Ash and ACORN are connected, but it seems like his latest actions were taken independently:

But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.

"He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else's] address, and he cast a ballot," said board official Jane Platten.

From what I can tell, Ash's latest attempt had zero to do with ACORN, considering he just waltzed into an election office and cast a paper ballot using fraudulent info.

Again, did ACORN somehow walk Ash into the election office and force him to vote under an assumed name and address? So riddle me this - how is it ACORN's fault?

Furthermore, how would it even be possible for ACORN to police the roughly 13,000 people they hired to register people to vote? You don't suspect that out of that many people, some of them are going to try and do something stupid?

Furthermore, out of all the "fraudulent" voter reg apps submitted, something like 5% of all apps from the Cleveland area, how many were ALREADY flagged by ACORN as fraudulent or problematic in some way?

It's interesting when these sources throw numbers around like this and yet there's no discussion of whether ACORN already flagged them or not.

This is a smear campaign. Your truth and objectivity just get in the way.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

He's a classic case of a person who has acquired a lot of information but doent have the insight to make sense of it properly. Mis-education is worse than ignorance.

:laugh:

I'm shocked! A butterbean post without a random homosexual reference!

That's because CAD already made one. ;)

Poor Butterbean. Teh gheys hate his freedoms! :laugh:
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Here I am, at least attempting to discuss this ACORN issue with a straight face, and half my points get ignored.

Here it is again - the guy in your OP link, Darnell Nash, seems downright determined to vote more than once. Even the article you cited makes it sound like Ash and ACORN are connected, but it seems like his latest actions were taken independently:

But still, he breezed into Ohio election offices - the state allows early voting for president - reregistered with a fake address and cast a paper ballot, officials said.

"He came in on 9/30 and Mr. Nash again registered to vote at [someone else's] address, and he cast a ballot," said board official Jane Platten.

From what I can tell, Ash's latest attempt had zero to do with ACORN, considering he just waltzed into an election office and cast a paper ballot using fraudulent info.

Again, did ACORN somehow walk Ash into the election office and force him to vote under an assumed name and address? So riddle me this - how is it ACORN's fault?

Furthermore, how would it even be possible for ACORN to police the roughly 13,000 people they hired to register people to vote? You don't suspect that out of that many people, some of them are going to try and do something stupid?

Furthermore, out of all the "fraudulent" voter reg apps submitted, something like 5% of all apps from the Cleveland area, how many were ALREADY flagged by ACORN as fraudulent or problematic in some way?

It's interesting when these sources throw numbers around like this and yet there's no discussion of whether ACORN already flagged them or not.

Could be. I did not state in my OP that ACORN had this guy go fraudulently vote. However, the apologists in this voter fraud issue regarding ACORN(and other registration issues) have kept trying to say that people wouldn't vote with fraudulent registrations. THAT is why I included it.

If an organization has a problem with fraud - they should address it. They keep trying to claim it's being addressed but yet here we are again with more and more fraud. This isn't just isolated incidences either - which potentially could be dismissed - this is widespread.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Bullshit - I did answer it. Go read. Also, your revised question is just another in a long line of BHO apologist strawmen.

You have become a joke Vic. You'll realize it someday when you wake up but damn - you've totally lost all rationality when it comes to BHO.

How is this...

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I don't give a rats ass about McCain - I was commenting on people trying to divert to McCain and then try to equate their association levels. It's patently absurd based on what the diverters posted here. If there is more on McCain - fine but speaking at an amnesty rally co-sponsored by ACORN is nothing compared to what BHO's association with them is. There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious.

ACORN itself is a corrupt(or at minimum willingly inept) organization who enables fraud.

Now enough with the diversions, read the OP. It has nothing to do with McCain or whatever other BS you people want to diver with.

... an answer to this?

Originally posted by: Vic
What makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Could be. I did not state in my OP that ACORN had this guy go fraudulently vote. However, the apologists in this voter fraud issue regarding ACORN(and other registration issues) have kept trying to say that people wouldn't vote with fraudulent registrations. THAT is why I included it.

If an organization has a problem with fraud - they should address it. They keep trying to claim it's being addressed but yet here we are again with more and more fraud. This isn't just isolated incidences either - which potentially could be dismissed - this is widespread.

Who here in this thread has said that ACORN should not address their problems with fraud? Give me one example.

See, that's your straw man, CAD. You try to pretend that Obama supporters approve of ACORN's difficulties with voter registration fraud in a desperate attempt to make a mountain out of this molehill.
 

Butterbean

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You want to see a whopper - check out how Obams is now trying to hide fact he was with Acorn. Hes busted in bare butt lie. Barry is quite the sleazer. No wonder his fans hate Palin. She has more integrity in her pinky than Barry ever had.


Busted... Obama Lied About His ACORN Training Sessions
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot....ht-smears-website.html

Obama and Acorn
Community organizers, phony voters, and your tax dollars.

http://www.marketwatch.com/new...9E87ED547%7D&dist=hppr


RNC: Obama & Acorn Fact Sheet
The Acorn/Obama Rhetoric

http://www.marketwatch.com/new...9E87ED547%7D&dist=hppr
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Bullshit - I did answer it. Go read. Also, your revised question is just another in a long line of BHO apologist strawmen.

You have become a joke Vic. You'll realize it someday when you wake up but damn - you've totally lost all rationality when it comes to BHO.

How is this...

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I don't give a rats ass about McCain - I was commenting on people trying to divert to McCain and then try to equate their association levels. It's patently absurd based on what the diverters posted here. If there is more on McCain - fine but speaking at an amnesty rally co-sponsored by ACORN is nothing compared to what BHO's association with them is. There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious.

ACORN itself is a corrupt(or at minimum willingly inept) organization who enables fraud.

Now enough with the diversions, read the OP. It has nothing to do with McCain or whatever other BS you people want to diver with.

... an answer to this?

Originally posted by: Vic
What makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's?

Tough to see with those blinders on?

"There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious." <- reference to his campaign's payment for "staging, sound, lighting." to an "affiliate" that was actually for a get out the vote(BHO's camp originally lied) - which is.... surprise....what acorn also does...

But if you want more - he was a lawyer for them? Boy...that's equal to being at a amnesty rally that was co-sponsored by ACORN. Need more? BHO's "truth" site lies?

If you can't see the difference(from the first reference) then there is no point in even talking with you on this subject.... I've included the other 2 as a bonus, in hopes you snap out of your delusions....
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Also, it's laughable for you or anyone else to consider a co-sponsered amnesty rally attended by McCain with BHO's ties to ACORN. You apologists are funny. Divert, play apologist, attempt weak ass rationalization....etc Absolutely pathetic...

Tell us, CAD, what makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's? Serious question.

Your last 3 sentences are what you do in every post, so at least the irony is at your usual comic level.
I don't give a rats ass about McCain - I was commenting on people trying to divert to McCain and then try to equate their association levels. It's patently absurd based on what the diverters posted here. If there is more on McCain - fine but speaking at an amnesty rally co-sponsored by ACORN is nothing compared to what BHO's association with them is. There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious.

ACORN itself is a corrupt(or at minimum willingly inept) organization who enables fraud.

Now enough with the diversions, read the OP. It has nothing to do with McCain or whatever other BS you people want to diver with.

Pal, you are like the living, breathing, rabidly posting fountain of diversions.

Answer the question. What makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's? You don't even know. You just want to pin ACORN on Obama and you don't have a damn thing but to hope that repeating the 2 names together as much as possible will make it so. And then when someone demands proof, you divert by labeling them an apologist. Rinse. Repeat.

And it's not like there aren't Republican-oriented organizations who get mixed up in similar voter fraud. Bill Sizemore's Oregon Taxpayers United (primarily anti-union activism) has been directly involved in the exact same kind of voter fraud every single year here for the past 15 years. Hell, he's been successfully sued for millions for racketeering and fraud, and we had to pass a law making it so political organizations couldn't pay signature gatherers per signature (for registration or for petition to get a measure on the ballot) just because of Sizemore. And he's a Republican with vague ties to McCain. Oh noes, I'll be like you and try to make a mountain out of molehill!!

READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

Again, nice diversion attempt but this thread isn't about your second paragraph - it's about BHO and ACORN fraud. You rabid BHO bots are hilarious - you come in here diverting and deflecting and then try to claim that I am doing that... :p I started the thread, I posted the topic and have attempted to stay on that topic despite your best attempts and derailing it.

Now please- stay on topic or leave the thread.

<- wonders why no action is being taken against those trolling this thread... oh wait... no I don't.
Well you aren't a Mod so you are in no position to tell others to stay strictly on topic, which BTW, no Moderator does. Secondly it all has to do with the desperate attacks made by the McCain Campaign which this is one of so anything about them is fair game in this thread. However if you think there is some unfair bias against you by the Moderating Staff here feel free to PM Derek. That said knock off the innuendos about Mod Bias or you will be taking some time away from these forums, probably until after the election.

:roll: "good" to see some things never change....

Me making this thread had NOTHING to do with McCain. I know you and the other apologists want to try to use that deflection but it doesn't change the facts.
That's right, baiting Moderators is still not allowed and there are still consequences for doing it.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

He's a classic case of a person who has acquired a lot of information but doent have the insight to make sense of it properly. Mis-education is worse than ignorance.

:laugh:

I'm shocked! A butterbean post without a random homosexual reference!

That's because CAD already made one. ;)

Poor Butterbean. Teh gheys hate his freedoms! :laugh:

True enough Vic but funny as well

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Could be. I did not state in my OP that ACORN had this guy go fraudulently vote. However, the apologists in this voter fraud issue regarding ACORN(and other registration issues) have kept trying to say that people wouldn't vote with fraudulent registrations. THAT is why I included it.

If an organization has a problem with fraud - they should address it. They keep trying to claim it's being addressed but yet here we are again with more and more fraud. This isn't just isolated incidences either - which potentially could be dismissed - this is widespread.

Who here in this thread has said that ACORN should not address their problems with fraud? Give me one example.

See, that's your straw man, CAD. You try to pretend that Obama supporters approve of ACORN's difficulties with voter registration fraud in a desperate attempt to make a mountain out of this molehill.

Where did I say someone here said they shouldn't address it? You need to READ. You know... the sentence AFTER I said they should address it. Sheesh.

It's absolutely amazing how much straw you people keep stuffing.... do you get an apologist discount?
 

Red Dawn

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Hey if after the election if it can be proved that fraud due to ACORN was the reason Obama won I believe that a recall should be taken and if it turns out McCain would have won he should be given the nod.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey if after the election if it can be proved that fraud due to ACORN was the reason Obama won I believe that a recall should be taken and if it turns out McCain would have won he should be given the nod.

What do the results have to do with this? Shouldn't these fraudulent activities be exposed and stopped regardless? Obviously ACORN can't/won't do it on their own despite their claims.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey if after the election if it can be proved that fraud due to ACORN was the reason Obama won I believe that a recall should be taken and if it turns out McCain would have won he should be given the nod.

What do the results have to do with this? Shouldn't these fraudulent activities be exposed and stopped regardless? Obviously ACORN can't/won't do it on their own despite their claims.
Isn't that what's happening now?
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Bullshit - I did answer it. Go read. Also, your revised question is just another in a long line of BHO apologist strawmen.

You have become a joke Vic. You'll realize it someday when you wake up but damn - you've totally lost all rationality when it comes to BHO.

How is this...

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I don't give a rats ass about McCain - I was commenting on people trying to divert to McCain and then try to equate their association levels. It's patently absurd based on what the diverters posted here. If there is more on McCain - fine but speaking at an amnesty rally co-sponsored by ACORN is nothing compared to what BHO's association with them is. There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious.

ACORN itself is a corrupt(or at minimum willingly inept) organization who enables fraud.

Now enough with the diversions, read the OP. It has nothing to do with McCain or whatever other BS you people want to diver with.

... an answer to this?

Originally posted by: Vic
What makes BHO's ties to ACORN more serious than McCain's?

Tough to see with those blinders on?

"There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious." <- reference to his campaign's payment for "staging, sound, lighting." to an "affiliate" that was actually for a get out the vote(BHO's camp originally lied) - which is.... surprise....what acorn also does...

But if you want more - he was a lawyer for them? Boy...that's equal to being at a amnesty rally that was co-sponsored by ACORN. Need more? BHO's "truth" site lies?

If you can't see the difference(from the first reference) then there is no point in even talking with you on this subject.... I've included the other 2 as a bonus, in hopes you snap out of your delusions....
From your link:
Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he ever ran for office. Thus it was natural for many of us to be active volunteers in his first campaign for STate Senate and then his failed bid for U.S. Congress in 1996. By the time he ran for U.S. Senate, we were old friends."
a) Nice typo there. Why is it that every website that posts this made up information have the same typo? Use your brain.
b) They claim that the website for Social Policy originally pulled this article, and they secretly found it. Do you really believe this BS?
Attempts to hide evidence of Obama's involvement with ACORN have included wiping the web clean of potentially damaging articles that had appeared, and were previously publicly accessible. Unfortunately, those behind the attempted cover-up failed to realize that in today's day and age, nothing disappears forever. There also exists another layer of the web, the hidden web, which is full of information included in proprietary scholarly databases where these very same "missing" articles can be easily uncovered.

Yes, a hidden web. Maybe they hax0r3d into the NSA!? Gullible doesn't even begin to describe this make believe, conspiracy theory BS.


 

Vic

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Tough to see with those blinders on?

"There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious." <- reference to his campaign's payment for "staging, sound, lighting." to an "affiliate" that was actually for a get out the vote(BHO's camp originally lied) - which is.... surprise....what acorn also does...

But if you want more - he was a lawyer for them? Boy...that's equal to being at a amnesty rally that was co-sponsored by ACORN. Need more? BHO's "truth" site lies?

If you can't see the difference(from the first reference) then there is no point in even talking with you on this subject.... I've included the other 2 as a bonus, in hopes you snap out of your delusions....

Uh huh... and what about that involvement is MORE SERIOUS than McCain's?

Taking on a legitimate legal case and helping "get out the vote" are not illegal activities, last I checked. Do you have any evidence that any illegal or untoward took place? Nor is ACORN an illegal organization, despite some its recent publicized troubles. Or are you saying it is? Then perhaps it is you who are the joke with delusions? Or maybe you're just -- as usual -- regurgitating the latest RNC talking points without a shred of understanding? Yeah, I'd say so.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
READ MY POST. Is your head really that far up BHO's ass that you can't even read my reply to your question? Sheesh.

He's a classic case of a person who has acquired a lot of information but doent have the insight to make sense of it properly. Mis-education is worse than ignorance.

:laugh:

I'm shocked! A butterbean post without a random homosexual reference!

That's because CAD already made one. ;)

Poor Butterbean. Teh gheys hate his freedoms! :laugh:

True enough Vic but funny as well

Really, Butteredbean? Tell us how that is true. Tell us how those terrible gays are hating on your freedoms. And let's hear it in your own words, none of your usual braindead copy and pasting.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Tough to see with those blinders on?

"There are atleast 800 thousand reasons why BHO's associations are more serious." <- reference to his campaign's payment for "staging, sound, lighting." to an "affiliate" that was actually for a get out the vote(BHO's camp originally lied) - which is.... surprise....what acorn also does...

But if you want more - he was a lawyer for them? Boy...that's equal to being at a amnesty rally that was co-sponsored by ACORN. Need more? BHO's "truth" site lies?

If you can't see the difference(from the first reference) then there is no point in even talking with you on this subject.... I've included the other 2 as a bonus, in hopes you snap out of your delusions....

Uh huh... and what about that involvement is MORE SERIOUS than McCain's?

Taking on a legitimate legal case and helping "get out the vote" are not illegal activities, last I checked. Do you have any evidence that any illegal or untoward took place? Nor is ACORN an illegal organization, despite some its recent publicized troubles. Or are you saying it is? Then perhaps it is you who are the joke with delusions? Or maybe you're just -- as usual -- regurgitating the latest RNC talking points without a shred of understanding? Yeah, I'd say so.

No one said representing them was illegal. Where the hell are you getting these things? No one has stated that BHO was involved directly in ACORN's fraud so stop with the strawman BS.

F'n apologists...
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
You want to see a whopper - check out how Obams is now trying to hide fact he was with Acorn. Hes busted in bare butt lie. Barry is quite the sleazer. No wonder his fans hate Palin. She has more integrity in her pinky than Barry ever had.


Busted... Obama Lied About His ACORN Training Sessions
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot....ht-smears-website.html

Obama and Acorn
Community organizers, phony voters, and your tax dollars.

http://www.marketwatch.com/new...9E87ED547%7D&dist=hppr


RNC: Obama & Acorn Fact Sheet
The Acorn/Obama Rhetoric

http://www.marketwatch.com/new...9E87ED547%7D&dist=hppr

Do you any evidence of criminal, illegal, or unethical activities? Nope?

We all know your motivation, Butterbrain. ACORN represents the interests of poor inner-city minorities and you're a screaming bigot. I wouldn't be surprised if you donned the hood and robe just to post here.
 

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: andy04
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: andy04
Distance himself... yeah right... its just another ass saving move from him just like distancing himself from his pastor. guess what, he is going to get right back with them once the race is over. This is a guy who was half black and full Muslim at birth, was brought up by full white Christians, still somehow he felt an urge to go back to his "black roots" and started studying MLK :Q... well why was he not curious about Islam ????
He is an opportunist SOB his being in the legal profession should be a reason enough to know about his character - remember John Edward? I mean only people who are a disgrace to humanity can be a lawyer.
You think a swine like him will really disassociate himself with any such thing???
Your stereotypical Palin/McCain supporter:laugh:

stereotypical BHO supporter's 1 liner:D
What else was there to say, your posts exposes you for what you are.

As do yours as a BHO apologist and fluffer.

Okay I'll bite:

he 'was' half black? Full Muslim? Can someone be 1/2 Muslim?

Is there anyone wrong with being Muslim? (If you answer anything beyond no, there is a problem)
Is there wrong with being half white? (Same)

Who cares if he is curious about Islam? talk about complete speculation! What is McCain 'to go back to his roots' went to study Buddhism cause he was in vietnam for so long? Let us make up stories and follow through with them as if they are real!

His post is complete bullshit. There is no content that merits ANY discussion...save for the last part ~ but we ALLLL know McCain isn't an opportunist SOB as well, right? (If you agree with that statement, there is a problem)
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey if after the election if it can be proved that fraud due to ACORN was the reason Obama won I believe that a recall should be taken and if it turns out McCain would have won he should be given the nod.

What do the results have to do with this? Shouldn't these fraudulent activities be exposed and stopped regardless? Obviously ACORN can't/won't do it on their own despite their claims.
Isn't that what's happening now?

Is it being stopped? Seems to me ACORN and it's apologists are trying to dismiss the whole thing.