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Not sure I trust 7-zip after this...

mikeymikec

mikeymikec

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After a couple of incidents (StarCraft 2's shimmer effect over the achievement you've just picked up being a bit borked, and the AMD display driver restarting while playing a WMV clip) I decided to upgrade the graphics drivers (10.10 to 11.11 IIRC). I downloaded the driver from the AMD website, then decompressed it using 7-zip. When I ran setup, I got an error about it being "incompatible with my build".

I tried a few things (things like restarting, uninstalling MSI AfterBurner, etc) until I had the "clutching at straws" thought of just running the original download rather than trying the extracted version. It worked.

I don't have any other issues with my computer, so I'm fairly sure that this is a software-only issue.

Anyone here had any similar experiences?
 
I compared the two folder structures (folders only), this must be something intentional in AMD's extraction process:

Directory of D:\Backup\System\Windows\Drv\Win7\ATI 11.11

24/11/2011 14:18 <DIR> .
24/11/2011 14:18 <DIR> ..
24/11/2011 14:18 <DIR> $PLUGINSDIR
24/11/2011 14:18 <DIR> $TEMP
24/11/2011 14:18 <DIR> $_OUTDIR

C:\Users\Mike>dir /ad "D:\Backup\System\Windows\Drv\Win7\AMD 11.11"

Directory of D:\Backup\System\Windows\Drv\Win7\AMD 11.11

24/11/2011 14:24 <DIR> .
24/11/2011 14:24 <DIR> ..
24/11/2011 14:24 <DIR> Bin64
24/11/2011 14:24 <DIR> Config
24/11/2011 14:24 <DIR> Images
24/11/2011 14:24 <DIR> Packages

I can't see any file differences, but I haven't compared each folder-for-folder. The "ATI 11.11" folder was the one that 7-zip was told to extract the folder into. The AMD one is from the AMD installer.
 
mikeymikec said:
After a couple of incidents (StarCraft 2's shimmer effect over the achievement you've just picked up being a bit borked, and the AMD display driver restarting while playing a WMV clip) I decided to upgrade the graphics drivers (10.10 to 11.11 IIRC). I downloaded the driver from the AMD website, then decompressed it using 7-zip. When I ran setup, I got an error about it being "incompatible with my build".

I tried a few things (things like restarting, uninstalling MSI AfterBurner, etc) until I had the "clutching at straws" thought of just running the original download rather than trying the extracted version. It worked.

I don't have any other issues with my computer, so I'm fairly sure that this is a software-only issue.

Anyone here had any similar experiences?
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Why did you decompress them? Aren't they self extracting .exes?
 
WelshBloke said:
Why did you decompress them? Aren't they self extracting .exes?
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Right-click on file > Extract to (folder name depending on archive name, already filled out for me)
wait a while

Versus:

double-click on file
wait a while
probably click 'next'
Browse or type in path where I want to store driver files
wait a while
 
mikeymikec said:
Right-click on file > Extract to (folder name depending on archive name, already filled out for me)
wait a while

Versus:

double-click on file
wait a while
probably click 'next'
Browse or type in path where I want to store driver files
wait a while
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At least double clicking on the .exe works. 😛
 
I've seen the driver installer break a heck of a lot more than the decompression program not decompress a valid archive properly 🙂
 
In this case yes. Most devices, no. A multi-function printer manual install usually goes along the lines of the add hardware wizard appearing, feed it the location of the driver, and again when it asks for the scanner.

Then there are other devices like HP multi-function printers, when you feed Windows the driver, it just starts the installer 🙂
 
saratoga172 said:
Never had a single problem using the driver installer.
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I'd say it accounts for half the time I get called out for printer problems. Kodak seems to have a real knack for crap driver installers at the moment 🙂

Wait, do you mean you've never had a problem with the ATI/AMD driver installer, or driver installers in general? If you meant ATI/AMD, then I agree with you.
 
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mikeymikec said:
In this case yes. Most devices, no. A multi-function printer manual install usually goes along the lines of the add hardware wizard appearing, feed it the location of the driver, and again when it asks for the scanner.

Then there are other devices like HP multi-function printers, when you feed Windows the driver, it just starts the installer 🙂
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You can intall just the driver in a similar manner for video cards as well although you lose the control panel.
 
mikeymikec said:
I'd say it accounts for half the time I get called out for printer problems. Kodak seems to have a real knack for crap driver installers at the moment 🙂

Wait, do you mean you've never had a problem with the ATI/AMD driver installer, or driver installers in general? If you meant ATI/AMD, then I agree with you.
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Definitely never had an ati/amd issue. Dell seems to work without fail as well. I've only used Kodak drivers once for a camera and it worked fine.

Can't recall any specific issues I've ever had.

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Winrar does have an option for 7-Zip files. It is under Settings, Integration
This is in V4.01 the last stable build. I personally wait until a build is out
Beta before updating, but most betas from them are ok.
 
Anytime you attempt to extract an exe file using anything but what the file was created with you are taking a gamble. Extracting exe files may work on one file and not another because the install builder changed versions or the setup script changed. There is another program I use called universal extractor. It was designed to extract exe files and most other formats but it is never guaranteed that you get the correct extraction. There is a couple hundred different exe packer type programs so I would always double check anything critical.

http://legroom.net/software/uniextract
Only way to be 100&#37; safe is use whatever created the exe file.
 
Modelworks said:
Anytime you attempt to extract an exe file using anything but what the file was created with you are taking a gamble. Extracting exe files may work on one file and not another because the install builder changed versions or the setup script changed. There is another program I use called universal extractor. It was designed to extract exe files and most other formats but it is never guaranteed that you get the correct extraction. There is a couple hundred different exe packer type programs so I would always double check anything critical.

http://legroom.net/software/uniextract
Only way to be 100% safe is use whatever created the exe file.
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I have to agree with this. Even if you were successful with other extraction utilities, you can't really blame 7-zip for not being 100% compatible with another utilities self-extracting package. While it would be nice if it 7-zip worked 100% of the time in this scenario, 99% is good enough for something that really isn't and shouldn't be expected of it.
 
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