Not reaching max boost with Ryzen 5 2600X

[ehume]

Yes. It's a little bit of a process though if you've never done it before. Not hard or anything, just need to watch a good tutorial first.

Yup. You get anywhere from a couple to a few degrees of improved cooling, sometimes 5-10c.

 

[davide445]

Let's say I can invest in
- A new cooler such as ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports, Enermax ETS-T50 AXE Silent Edition, or CoolerMaster MasterAir MA410P that I can find for roughly €40
- A new thermal paste such as Noctua NT-H2 that can cost about €12
So my expense can be €52 for cooler+thermal paste or €12 for just a new thermal paste.
The benefit can be about 20°C in the first case, 5°C the second.
How this convert in term of Mhz/performance?

 

[ehume]

Let's say I can invest in
- A new cooler such as ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports, Enermax ETS-T50 AXE Silent Edition, or CoolerMaster MasterAir MA410P that I can find for roughly €40
- A new thermal paste such as Noctua NT-H2 that can cost about €12
So my expense can be €52 for cooler+thermal paste or €12 for just a new thermal paste.
The benefit can be about 20°C in the first case, 5°C the second.
How this convert in term of Mhz/performance?

For one thing, you would avid Arctic heatsinks. They are made to be inexpensive.

 

[davide445]

For one thing, you would avid Arctic heatsinks. They are made to be inexpensive.

Ok 🙂, but considering the other three, what about the benefit in term of performance?

Not for the cost itself, but for the effort needed to purchase, unmount the stock cooler (needed sweating mounting it, afraid to broke the motherboard unmounting it), apply the new paste, mount the new cooler.
All activities I have done just a single time before (except applying the paste, was already there in stock cooler), so prefer to evaluate a bit if worth the cost+effort.

 

[ehume]

I am not an expert on AMD hardware, but I can say that you should twist your current heatsink to avoid avulsing the CPU from its socket. Further, your new heatsink should have at least six heatpipes. Last, a good heatsink will come with its own TIM.

By now, even ordinary TIMs are better than AS5. So you can at least save a little by using the bundled stuff. When it comes to heatsinks (like all equipment) do your homework; shop carefully. And competition being what it is, you tend to get what you pay for -- except this: there are always merchants out there lurking to get stray profit.

 

[IEC]

Use dental floss or fishing line to help remove a "stuck" or adhered heatsink if the thermal paste is glue-like.

 

[ehume]

Use dental floss or fishing line to help remove a "stuck" or adhered heatsink if the thermal paste is glue-like.

That's a great idea.

 

[sinanxrasheed]

Your Ryzen 5 2600X
I can help you.
This AMD Processor needs to be fed with DDR4 RAM - Which has a 2933 mhz Frequency, Here CAS Latency doesn't matter at all, Because of DDR4 RAMs have Higher CAS Latency (Which is Slower depending on Frequency). But Remember Feeding the CPU which requires it's need is more important than you think it is. So Buy a DDR4 RAM with 2933 mhz Frequency in DUAL CHANNEL, Because this needs to be fed with Dual Channel, i know, Don't get me wrong, It's not a Processor with IGPU (Integrated Graphics Processing Unit). But It's Important that you need to feed these Processors what they need of RAMs.

DDR4 - 2933mhz or Higher Frequency [Warning:Check if this Higher Frequency RAM Supported by the Motherboard!] . Buy it in DUAL CHANNEL.

For More Information Goto : http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 2600X.html

 

[davide445]

@ehume any idea how much I can gain in term of CPU clock with a new cooler?
@IEC will keep in mind for sure your suggestion!

 

[ehume]

No. I was more concerned with keeping temps down than getting higher overclocks. If you run an Intel CPU, for example, GFlops tend to reach a highpoint in the low 80s. In the case of one chip, it was 80c. As for AMD CPUs, I cannot say what the optimum temps should be. But every degree prevented is work that can be done.

 

[Mk pt]

Did you try to undervolting using offset?
If your motherboard have this option its what you should use with an 2600X.

Good thing about 2600X versus 2600 is you really don't need to do OC, just lower voltage thru offset.

Search and watch YouTube about it.
Learn before trying, it's easy but you should know what you're going.

With all core load my 2600X runs >4GHz, and single Core >4.2 GHz.


But I'm using a Noctua cooler (U12 or something like that, not the D15 'monster'), I like to have a silent PC.

 

[davide445]

I have Precision Boost Overdrive disabled, enabling it will make sense with stock cooler?

 

[Thunder 57]

I have Precision Boost Overdrive disabled, enabling it will make sense with stock cooler?

It may help in short bursts, but I expect you will become thermally limited rather quickly.

I actually just disabled PBO. I wasn't happy with the voltage that came at some times. Honestly, PBO seems to have little gain for what it's worth. That may be different on Zen 2, but for Zen+, it doesn't seem worth it.

 

[davide445]

It may help in short bursts, but I expect you will become thermally limited rather quickly.

My major interest is sustained single thread performance.
A liquid cooler will be overkill vs a standard aftermarket CPU fan?
I didn't want to manually OC, just using out of the box available tools.

 

[chrisjames61]

Your Ryzen 5 2600X
I can help you.
This AMD Processor needs to be fed with DDR4 RAM - Which has a 2933 mhz Frequency, Here CAS Latency doesn't matter at all, Because of DDR4 RAMs have Higher CAS Latency (Which is Slower depending on Frequency). But Remember Feeding the CPU which requires it's need is more important than you think it is. So Buy a DDR4 RAM with 2933 mhz Frequency in DUAL CHANNEL, Because this needs to be fed with Dual Channel, i know, Don't get me wrong, It's not a Processor with IGPU (Integrated Graphics Processing Unit). But It's Important that you need to feed these Processors what they need of RAMs.

DDR4 - 2933mhz or Higher Frequency [Warning:Check if this Higher Frequency RAM Supported by the Motherboard!] . Buy it in DUAL CHANNEL.

For More Information Goto : http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 2600X.html

Your post has nothing to do with the 2600X and boost speeds.

 

[Thunder 57]

My major interest is sustained single thread performance.
A liquid cooler will be overkill vs a standard aftermarket CPU fan?
I didn't want to manually OC, just using out of the box available tools.

Liquid would be overkill for your needs. This would be plenty to sustain 4.25GHz single core and about 4.0GHz all core. I would say just enable PBO and let it handle everything, simple and does the job well.

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

I don’t think you’ll get much of a performance change now matter what cooler you use. You’ll reduce noise and temps, but I believe the performance change will be less than 5%. I definitely would not bother changing the thermal paste unless you go with an upgraded cooler with the goal of reducing noise. I think of you have the goal of increased performance you will be disappointed.

-AG

 

[davide445]

Reading a the numbers I will probably find another 5-6% performances with a €50 aftermarket cooler.
Wondering if make sense to update at Ryzen 3600 for €200 after just 8 months of my current rig usage, and use my current 2600x cooler to achieve the same performances of the 3600x, that will be at least 20% more.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm using an AIO on my 2600x, I see 4.2GHz regularly. I imagine with a decent air cooler and your bios not setting clocks you'd have similar clock speeds.