Not impressed with Windows 10 so far.

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Skaendo

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I have deleted the unwanted shortcuts out of the start menu that wont let you remove them by right clicking on them. This however wont uninstall the programs.
They are in C\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\ as with previous versions.

*This has made the start menu much more bearable and customizable to me. A lot cleaner too.
 
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Rhonda the Sly

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And I noticed now with build 9860 not only is there the Control Panel and PC Settings, now they've added zPC Settings. Really? Why they feel the need to split control panel style options into now 3 separate apps is beyond me.
It's plainly obvious that zPC Settings is an in-development version of PC Settings, which is being expanded to handle even more Control Panel settings.

After the new build installs there was a couple of updates in the regular Control Panel Windows Update that fixed this issue.
I thought it was very strange that you have to use PC Settings to get the new build but then use the older Windows Update to fix it. I think this is an ongoing issue that Microsoft is working on as they try and transition to the newer PC Settings.
PC Settings handles most all Windows Updates as well as new builds. The only things it doesn't handle are updates that have a UI (EULAs, etc.) as far as I'm aware.

Do you reply in my threads just to contradict and bash me while I am here giving constructive info on a test install of a new OS? They have a name for people like that, troll.

No I have never had a Windows 10 thread, I never said I hate Windows 10. Windows 8/8.1, yes.

Personally I don't like to install one OS on top of another. there were all kind of weird things going on like PC Settings menu had missing letters in the middle of words and other quirks. A fresh install is the only way to do things right IMO.
Supposedly, the upgrade functionality is being tested because Microsoft plans to make more use out of it for more post-release betas, delivering new versions, or something.
 

Skaendo

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Ok, I have to admit, I am pretty impressed with Windows 10 thus far.

There are a few elements that I would change if I could, like getting rid of PC Settings & zPC Settings. Why on earth did they move wireless network connections to this? I thought that Windows 7 had it right on where just a small window popped up when you click on the network icon in the taskbar. Now it manages to intrude upon the whole screen with PC Settings (I know you can resize it).

And currently I cannot change the target for File Explorer in the taskbar like in previous versions. (This will probably change with newer builds)

The Start Menu has become less of a nuisance after some playing with it and cleaning it up.
Everything else seems pretty much the same, just a little more polished since Windows 7.

And Windows 10 itself is very fast, even on my older laptop. I hope it stays this way.
 

JEDIYoda

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Do you reply in my threads just to contradict and bash me while I am here giving constructive info on a test install of a new OS? They have a name for people like that, troll.

No I have never had a Windows 10 thread, I never said I hate Windows 10. Windows 8/8.1, yes.

Personally I don't like to install one OS on top of another. there were all kind of weird things going on like PC Settings menu had missing letters in the middle of words and other quirks. A fresh install is the only way to do things right IMO.
from the sound of your post my question is -- what in the hell are you doing treting windows 10? I guess they will let anybody test the product...
 

jhansman

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Seconded.

Ditto. At this point, even if MS came out with the best desktop OS ever, someone on here would be whining about how it doesn't wash their car or feed their dog. I play with 8/8/.1 for a spell, and went back to 7. What I did not do was come here an piss and moan. Don't like it? Don't use it. Wanna complain? Send it to the company who made it.
 

Underclocked

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I think MS would welcome feedback from all comers. Skaendo might actually be a good tester so far as input since he is predisposed to dislike windows. Negative feedback is probably more desirable than praise at this point. I think they are looking for ways to make people happy while at the same time building the best product they can.

An example of that is a build being tested that has a simple pair of check boxes for hiding the search and/or task view buttons.

I'm hoping to see more flexibility options wise so far arranging the start menu to the user's tastes. More options to allow user control are almost always better. I also see being ALWAYS signed in to a Microsoft account as a drawback - why not let the user decide what services/apps he wants to sign into and when he wants to do so (without having to change account types!!) ?
 

Skaendo

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Just to clarify, I have never said that I don't like Windows. I have said that I don't like Windows 8/8.1. Now since I am running Win10 now I currently have 3 PCs in my home that run Windows, and only 1 that runs Linux. I have been using Windows since Win3 and have always had at least 1 PC running Windows ever since.
 

bbhaag

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I think MS would welcome feedback from all comers. Skaendo might actually be a good tester so far as input since he is predisposed to dislike windows. Negative feedback is probably more desirable than praise at this point. I think they are looking for ways to make people happy while at the same time building the best product they can.

An example of that is a build being tested that has a simple pair of check boxes for hiding the search and/or task view buttons.

I'm hoping to see more flexibility options wise so far arranging the start menu to the user's tastes. More options to allow user control are almost always better. I also see being ALWAYS signed in to a Microsoft account as a drawback - why not let the user decide what services/apps he wants to sign into and when he wants to do so (without having to change account types!!) ?

As far as I know Win8 and Win10 don't require you to have a Live account to use your computer. A local account is still an option if you want to go that route.
Now if you want access to the Windows Store then yes you need an account but this is no different than the Google Play store or iTunes for that matter.

I agree with your post over all though and agree that Microsoft is looking for constructive criticism to help shape their next OS. Actually I think that's really cool on their part. To the best of my knowledge they've never done anything like this before.
 

RampantAndroid

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Do you reply in my threads just to contradict and bash me while I am here giving constructive info on a test install of a new OS? They have a name for people like that, troll.

No I have never had a Windows 10 thread, I never said I hate Windows 10. Windows 8/8.1, yes.

Personally I don't like to install one OS on top of another. there were all kind of weird things going on like PC Settings menu had missing letters in the middle of words and other quirks. A fresh install is the only way to do things right IMO.

Sorry, I got confused by your thread asking why sane people like Windows, and your ranting in another Windows 10 thread.

Windows users will never learn.
Only if you bought Windows 8 will the upgrade to Windows 9 be free.
My next point is why waste your time with Windows 9 which is basically just a Windows 8 update, when they are releasing Windows 10.
But then why waste the time with Windows 10 when Windows 11 will be coming out a year after 10?
And so on and so on. Stop wasting your money on this bloated, runaway train wreck that is fueled by greed and money.
Rumors are that Microsoft will begin releasing new versions on a yearly basis, and not supporting older versions faster.
That means you will have to buy a new version every few years, padding the pockets of Microsoft.

You don't like MS or windows. We get it.