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Originally posted by: Wolfgang
Labgeek,

I'm very sympathetic to what you're saying.

Shawn is used to hype, and just doesn't seem to realize that comments he can't back up, even a well-intended comment that he plans to back up but then something happens and he doesn't, destroys his credibility.

I'm sympathetic to him--I think he means well, and I think this is pretty clearly not a scam. But there are ways to hurt customers other than scams--such as repeated reckless and sloppy claims.

As one person put it (paraphrasing): "he doesn't distinguish between plans and reality." Which means he presents his plans are basically accomplished facts (especially when he's not being scrutinized, when he's free to revert to type), which of course, they;re not, especially when there are obstacles or opponents in the road ahead. Disastrous.


Supposedly, he's been "growing" a lot very recently, realizing that small-time hype and winging it just doesn't work with htousands of customers. But if this is true, and I hope it is, it sure seems like 5 steps forward, 4.5 back.[/q

You know what Shawn reminds me of, the same person who had www.ps2storeusa.com during the Ps2 launch. He had a warehouse full of Ps2's during launch when everyone was sold out (you get my drift too good to be true). It was another cult following. Oh Scott is telling the truth, he is sending them out tomorrow. Oh they are held up at Customs etc... When the customers got pissed, Scott decided to use irc as his customer service tool. Scotty lied and lied for a whole week on irc. Then he disappeared. A couple days later, Scott was arrested at the airport trying to leave the country with a suitcase full of money. This looks like a repeat story. Shawn is probably purchasing plane tickets as we speak to fly to some island in the Pacific. Luckily, for me I didn't send my money to him because he looked like a scam. But a bunch of Kids did and they are out $300. I'm willing to bet Shawn is doing the same thing. He lost money for a few months giving people unrealistic web plans. Then when people started saying "Wow, this guy gives you x space and bandwidth for $5 a year", people started jumping on the bandwagon and his 200 customers turned into 10k customers. Shawn is a crook. He is using stall tactics right now. I'll guarantee you that he won't ever be back up.
 
Just sent an email requesting refund for all three of my accounts. Hope I can get the money back before the complete fallout.
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LOL!!!! Just confronted one of the ops with the 120gb 10,000rpm SCSI hard drives. She verified it to be true. Western Digital Platinum series. She stayed quiet after everyone else called her out on it.
 
I truly feel badly for the employees. If they were counting on him for their livlihood, to pay the bills etc, they are the real victims!! We customers will get our money back - and if not well it was just a few bux- and the big guys- the credit card companies will take the loss. But the employees are SOL!

And speaking of refunds.. I advise people to be proactive in getting the funds back.. either thru a paypal dispute or thru your credit card. I don't think CW will process refunds. They might. I don't know. But I'd take the quick & certain way - which for me was contacting American Express.

This is like an addictive soap opera.. any good writers here?? May Wil Smith and Spielberg can make a blockbuster out of this!! 😀

 
WHAT A DIFFERENCE !!!

I just signed up with DixieSys, and the service is excellent. I went into their chatroom and the "CEO Gary" --- who goes by just "GARY" --- is in there and personally helps everyone. Of course, there's only about 8 people in there at a given time.

.... Everyone else is SATISFIED, and UP.

 
MCCALL: Yeah, we'll just disagree on this point. I would argue that owning one own's servers could be considered to be prohibitive to a small hosting business. Likewise, such a set-up would require adding "space as [you] go" since renting a lot of space from the start would be cost-prohibitive, especially compared to simply renting rack space which could be filled with a greater amount of server capacity immediately. A center in which cw rented rack space (and thus had space they could resell) would also allow them to develop dedicated and colocated servers. To my understanding, this works the same as a reseller account on a web server-- a person would colocate with cw instead of directly with company X because company X doesn't want to deal with small accounts and would rather let cw parcel out space 1-2u at a time.

I agree that the whole "in negotiations" thing doesn't ring true; it certainly fits with the hyperbolic speech (borrowing a Wolfgang-ism) Shawn seems prone to (whether due to fraudulent intentions or some major disconnect between brain and mouth).

So in the case of the data center, I think the statements could have been more 'arrogance' and less 'criminal' in nature, but I do understand your point. Certainly this matter should all be settled in the coming weeks and it will no doubt be amusing to see what happens.

Meanwhile, I find the whole hard drive issue hilarious. I totally want a Pt edition WD!
 
Originally posted by: Aceman
CEO SHAWN on now. CEO SHAWN mad! CEO SHAWN has lawyer monitoring.


blahblahblah.....

Yea, I'm on right now. It is too funny. Shawn is not giving any answers, just threatening people with his irc lawyers LOL
 
The best bullsh!t was the gov't servers are colocated with us. I can't release where we are due to confidentiuality. My arse. CEO Shawn wouldn't get near a gov't server and we have our own gov't owned buildings!
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Here our his quotes:

* CEO-Shawn is very disappointed & fed up with the community talking here right now. Please know that our legal counsel IS present and is logging all names, netmasks and everything SAID in these rooms presently. Those of you against CW, please state your position and take your side, those of you with us, do the same, and those of you against us, I am about to raise hell with those of you aginst us immediately.

* CEO-Shawn is NOT going to let anyone ruin Cyberwings, period. We will be back online VERY shortly and then all of the naysayers can promptly Eat their words.

* CEO-Shawn has spent the past 12 hours in our new data center hooking up new servers - I cannot take pictures because we are in a government shared facility. Non Disclosure Agreements & confidentiality agreements protect US and our providers - NO ONE will be given information (ANY INFORMATION) by our new providers, PERIOD.

* CEO-Shawn - Maybe everyone would just be happier if I did not update the channel with new information, did not give everyone updates, etc. Whomever is here just giving me a hard time, I am ignoring you. PERIOD.

* CEO-Shawn CANNOT take new pictures of the NEW DC due to FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SERVERS being on this site with us. Period. If you do not like that, sorry, it's the way it goes.

He knows he is in trouble tonight. He is pissed off at everyone and claiming he is sharing servers with the government LOL. What a tool.
 
try typing /server irc.webchat.org You might not be able to get in right now because the channel is +i because its desynched. It should be a few more mins until we our synced up again.
 
OMG that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Lawyer? Puh-lease.

I ran one of the biggest chat sites on the web, ran into people spewing stuff all the time. The reality is there's little you can do about it, even if you have the resources to persue people. (Time, money, technology, more money...)

What a giant tool, indeed.
 
What's is Shawn's nickname on IRC right now?

I'm on IRC right now as RossMAN

I tried /who #CyberWings but no such luck unless it's another channel like #CWStatus
 
THe servers are still desynched. I don't see you. Shawn is CEO-Shawn. It's basically Shawn making excuses

* CEO-Shawn needs EVERYONE's patience, support & understanding for these LAST FINAL DAYS - I guarantee you, in my personal word, that we will have functioning servers online VERY shortly (Thurs-Sat) and that ALL ARRANGEMENTS have already been made.

* CEO-Shawn - LOTS of people have been calling VARIOUS data centers in Virginia as WELL as Cogent. Please note that we have made our Non Disclosure Agreements, Confidentiality Agreements & UNDERSTANDINGS with ALL people involved in our situation right now VERY ROCK SOLID that NO INFORMATION, good, bad or indifferent will be released to ANY customers, inquiries, etc. OUR PROVIDERS will not even ACKNOWLEDGE that
 
Well at least he /msg'd me back stating he was busy in the channel and cannot privately chat right now.

Trying to get his direct e-mail address so I can e-mail a refund request, waiting for a reply from him.
 
Top six anagrams for Shawn White. Anyone know what his middles name is per chance? 🙂

6) What whines?
5) When I thaws!
4) What, newish?
3) Shh... I, We want!
2) Hi, what news?

And the #1 anagram is...

Naw, We Shhit!
 
I think you guys are all right ----

Shawn is self-destructing. He's got everyone (except one or two remaining loyal followers 😉) clawing at him demanding services, his name is smeared all over the Internet, he's got Lightship after him for past dues, he's got PayPal after him with chargebacks, you can imagine his "employees" are fed up with all the hell that's been breaking loose in chat for the past week.... oh yeah, and he's had physical threats made against him.

Shawn's only defense is continual lies -- about lawers, military datacenters, etc. etc. He cannot accept fault himself, but he's got the whole PLANET calling his bluff... not buying any more of his bullsh1t.

CEO-Shawn is about to crash as hard as his servers....
 
Ok by request, some more quotes by CEO-Shawn aka Enron Executive

* CEO-Shawn has NO PATIENCE with naysayers & trouble makers right now - right now I need your 100% understanding, patience & support while I spend ALL of my days (and some nights) at the DC working on issues.

* CEO-Shawn will be leaving very soon - I've been up 18+ hours and have been at the DC configuring servers, insatlling servers, etc. for a full 12 hours today.

* CEO-Shawn will NOT lower himselve to LS's level - we will do everything we need to do above board, legally, and we WILL get our hardware &content back - but until we do, I do not wish to delay the rebuild process.

* CEO-Shawn would just like to REINFORCE that I DO appreciate everyone's support during this time - and I am in my FINAL 48-72 hours of this situation and then everything will be in the REBUILD stage. Please bear with me during these last few days and we will all come through this together.

* CEO-Shawn is NOT being investigated for Fraud - I speak with PayPal DAILY (we have a personal rep there - we do so much business with them) and we are working cooperatively to resolve the entire situation. I love how people love to start rumors, though.

* CEO-Shawn will ALSO announce that he had to undergo a VERY intensive background check (Criminal, etc.) before he was allowed to have his hand biometrically scanned for our new data center. We are in the same facility as MANY government & financial institutions and we are not playing with small data centers any longer.

* CEO-Shawn - LOTS of people have been calling VARIOUS data centers in Virginia as WELL as Cogent. Please note that we have made our Non Disclosure Agreements, Confidentiality Agreements & UNDERSTANDINGS with ALL people involved in our situation right now VERY ROCK SOLID that NO INFORMATION, good, bad or indifferent will be released to ANY customers, inquiries, etc. OUR PROVIDERS will not even ACKNOWLEDGE that

<CEO-Shawn> YES< all I accounts WILL become AYW (more domains, more space, more bandwidth, more everything free)

* CEO-Shawn has been awake for 18 hours now and NEEDS to get some sleep - PLEASE know that my guarantee to you of Thurs-Sat (CLOSER to Friday or Thursday I believe in my gut) will be KEPT and we will start rebuilding this weekend.
 
haha..its pretty funny each time he says something...
his 'employees' are there to smooch him up, clap-clap, well-done, kiss-ass

Direct quote:
<CEO-Shawn> YES< all I accounts WILL become AYW (more domains, more space, more bandwidth, more everything free)

...........so everything free, great, nice business model.
 
CEO-Shawn is NOT being investigated for Fraud - I speak with PayPal DAILY (we have a personal rep there - we do so much business with them) and we are working cooperatively to resolve the entire situation. I love how people love to start rumors, though.
That's funny stuff. I know the girls over at paypal and eBay really well actually, and they've never heard of him. I know this because I had to tickle some people over there to have my $50 paypal to CW reversed after two weeks of no reply.


 
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