not good

[norseamd]

It was a very limited attack against some of their positions last night. Actually, if you watched the local news during the past few weeks you'd have known that Houthi group has kept advancing and gaining more ground, despite the repeated calls for political discussions. Well, someone had to send a message and that's all what SA did.

Have any links to calls for political discussions? Maybe I could see why they might want Aden but otherwise is not most of Eastern Yemen rural Sunni tribesmen? Considering this if Saleh is pushing the Shiites to conquer the whole country again then that is terrible news and for sure the Shiites are not going to be able to hold onto guerilla Sunni insurgents. Nevermind that if the Shiites start attacking the rest of Eastern Yemen then the ISIS is possibly going to make huge gains in recruiting and presence.

 

[norseamd]

After the US killed those hostages that were about to be released in Yemen back in Dec, I would guess that laying low there would be a good idea

And we also have to deal with the current negotiations on the nuclear deal with the Iranians. We probably need to try to push for peace and political compromise as much as possible to avoid destroying the nuclear deal.

 

[Fern]

-snip-
i suggest we remove the saudi monarchy and the israeli government both. occupy them with US troops and make them stop being massive assholes.

Like we did with Saddam in Iraq, eh?

Troll or massive 'tard, let P&N judge.

Fern

 

[Fern]

Bah. He has about another hundred situations of bullshit going on in the world right now so I doubt he cared much about Yemen in the last year or so.
-snip-

It was only about 6 months when Obama felt compelled to make a speech holding up Yemen as an ideal of his successful war on AQ/ISIS. He seemed to care a lot then, enough to claim credit (lol).

Fern

 

[Fern]

-snip-

P.S. Before you cream yourself regarding the above picture and how the banner was for the ship and not the war itself, I quote your personal hero Bush II:

"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
Bush II - 05.01.2003

Umm. We did prevail in the battle. Not so much in nation building and creating a democracy.

Nothing wrong with that banner.

Fern

 

[nickqt]

Umm. We did prevail in the battle. Not so much in nation building and creating a democracy.

Nothing wrong with that banner.

Fern

Right, the battle of Iraq was won in May of 2003. Nothing but flowers and smiles from children afterwards!

 

[MongGrel]

Depends a bit on which definition of the word prevail you choose to use long term I suppose.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prevail

I'm not sure effective long term would be one of them.

 

[norseamd]

Probably full of pure bullshit but worth linking for possibly some good insights or discussion.

https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/saudi-arabia-and-iran-compete-yemen

 

[norseamd]

 

[touchstone]

nvm

 

[zinfamous]

It's a piece of cake when you invest the time to keep up with current events. You'll be hearing Obama blamed for everything for the rest of your life. No time better than now to get adjusted to it. It's how politics is done these days.

what did Obama do to cause the situation in Yemen.

seriously, please explain.

 

[zinfamous]

Umm. We did prevail in the battle. Not so much in nation building and creating a democracy.

Nothing wrong with that banner.

Fern

LMFAO.

seriously, eat shit.

for saying something so stupid.

seriously. that is pathetic.

 

[OverVolt]

OP needs a hobby.

 

[norseamd]

OP needs a hobby.

Well this stuff basically is my hobby actually.

 

[touchstone]

LMFAO.

seriously, eat shit.

for saying something so stupid.

seriously. that is pathetic.

he has a habit of it. i think he may be learning disabled or something.

 

[norseamd]

learning disabled or something.

The correct word for this type of condition is partisanship.

 

[Omar F1]

Have any links to calls for political discussions? Maybe I could see why they might want Aden but otherwise is not most of Eastern Yemen rural Sunni tribesmen? Considering this if Saleh is pushing the Shiites to conquer the whole country again then that is terrible news and for sure the Shiites are not going to be able to hold onto guerilla Sunni insurgents. Nevermind that if the Shiites start attacking the rest of Eastern Yemen then the ISIS is possibly going to make huge gains in recruiting and presence.

Opinion drawn based on daily watching of Arabic news headlines.
Fortunately though,I was taking a look over Reuters and read this:
"Yemen Houthi rebels advance despite Saudi-led air strikes"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-yemen-security-idUSKBN0ML0YC20150327


As I was happy with the news last night, now I became much more concerned about the consequences to the Yemeni people and Saudi of the southern region.
Basically I fear the suicide bombing, the scary days of Iraq-2006/2007 to return, back when we kept hearing about suicide-bombing which targeted civilians almost each and every single day.

 

[Omar F1]

Umm. We did prevail in the battle. Not so much in nation building and creating a democracy.

Nothing wrong with that banner.

Fern

Rational and precise comment, especially as Fern referred to the main battle - March, 2003.

Bush's goal was accomplished indeed; to topple Saddam and he did. Post-war Iraq? He didn't give a damn.

Year after another, the region is still suffering because of that crime and the question is still unanswered: Why did he really invade Iraq?

 

[norseamd]

Well the situation went from bad shit to worse shit.

http://www.defenseone.com/news/2015/05/d-brief-may-4/111730/?oref=d-river

 

[cubby1223]

Yes, let's bring up what a President says at time A, compared to what happens later, at time B, as telling a lie.

Of course, you have zero reading comprehension, so this is no surprise.

Carry on!

P.S. Before you cream yourself regarding the above picture and how the banner was for the ship and not the war itself, I quote your personal hero Bush II:

"In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."
Bush II - 05.01.2003

So you're saying since Bush made a mistake, that it is perfectly acceptable for your president of choice to make the same mistake?

 

[OverVolt]

Oh gawd why is this drug-induced rant on the front page again.

 

[nickqt]

So you're saying since Bush made a mistake, that it is perfectly acceptable for your president of choice to make the same mistake?

Always projection and cognitive dissonance. Always.

Mistakes are mistakes, and don't mean that they are deliberate lies. I truly believe that Bush II thought major combat operations were over when he made his speech. Let me say this in plain language: I don't think Bush was lying, even though he was...wait for it...mistaken at the time.

I'm saying it's hilarious when people cry and complain about someone saying something at point A that turns out not to be true at point B, as if the person was actively LYING, which goes to the premise of the terrible and deluded argument the person I quoted in my post made. You know, the post of mine that you quoted.

If you want to ignore that I was responding to someone, go for it. It means that either your ability to understand how discussions take form on forums is severely lacking, or you're ignoring the context in order to move the goalposts of the conversation.

I mean, if you want to ignore context and move goalposts, go for it. Otherwise, how about reading what I wrote in direct context to what I was responding to. Of course, you can skip reading Boomerang's post, since what he writes is less logic and reasoning as it is pure outrage and victimhood zipped up into words and vomited forth as if directly from the amygdala of Master Limbaugh himself.

 

[werepossum]

Well the situation went from bad shit to worse shit.

http://www.defenseone.com/news/2015/05/d-brief-may-4/111730/?oref=d-river

The bad news is that this is going to get progressively worse as economic sanctions are lifted on Iran, thus giving it more money to finance such activities.

The good news is that the Islamic nations in the area are doing more of their own heavy lifting. I suspect there will always be terrorism there, either by the governments or by their opponents, but the affected nations doing the fighting (and dying) is obviously much better for us.

 

[CZroe]

And what Obama policy decisions do you disagree with in Yemen?

Him referring to those filling in where Al Qaeda left a vacuum as "JV team."

Those who imply that his policies when he praised our Yemeni operations did not lead to this are kidding themselves. It was the other policies that led directly to this.

 

[werepossum]

Him referring to those filling in where Al Qaeda as "JV team."

Those who imply that his policies when he praised our Yemeni operations did not lead to this are kidding themselves. It was the other policies that led directly to this.

His words might have inspired Iran to kick in some more money and training, and certainly his and Bush's actions made this a more important theater to Iran, but this struggle predates Obama and Bush. Iran is actively trying to export its version of Islam regardless of what actions may be taken by the Great Satan, just as Saudi Arabia is actively trying to export its own version of Islam.