Not exactly stunning..but my experience with an Athlon XP 2400+ Mobile

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myocardia

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Originally posted by: VisableAssassin
Originally posted by: myocardia
I don't need to, newbie, it's already been done for me: link to mobile Athlon OC'ed to 2.5ghz keeping up with an FX-53.



Jesus christ man touchy are we?
Ive said nothing to offend you in any way shape or form.
As for the newbie comment thats actually funny.
Your link while informative yes...doenst really phase me one bit...all youve shown is the 2500+ OC to 2.5 gets beat by a STOCK fx-53 (unless I can read graphs)...so next time post a review that shows the A64 getting stomped please man..
my mobile 2400 is allready at 2.5ghz so im happy where my socket A is, Im not complaining one bit..Im actually pretty happy with it...

Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: myocardia
newbie
This accusation confuses and amuses me. Mike is far from a newbie and he's been around AT a lot longer than you. What's the new criteria for one being a newbie?
Newbie= anyone who doesn't know what they are talking about, as proven by the link.

and again your link didnt "prove" anything...yeah sure the OC barton is fast no doubt...it still wont handle in any way shape or form 64 bit code...and besides that..even if the FX-53 OCed to 2.5 or even 2.6 your barton would be slapped around like a red headed step child....so for my closeing on this post.

1. Relax and dont toss childish insults or name calling...especially since YOU havent been around either here of the Hard forum long enough to know me...Megatomic knows me pretty damned well.

2. If your going to try and shoot someone down post something that does just that...not post something that shows how an OCed chip can keep up within a slight percentage.

and finally

3. Read the entire post before you go calling noob....I said lets see the barton run against the A64 on its native ground.. I.E. 64bit apps....while yeah it may be 12 months before anything official is out MS was and still is (last i checked) allowing you to check out WinXP 64.
Now Im going back outside to work my my '86 HD Softtail :)
No, this is the first time in this entire thread that you have mentioned 64-bit. What you think is native for any processor doesn't concern me in the slightest. And I think that that link proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that a 2.5ghz Barton will outperform any socket 754 chip, which is what you had said you were going to buy. And lastly, you keep holding your breath on having 64-bit apps readily available in the near future, because a 64-bit OS won't be running the 32-bit apps any faster at all, and will more than likely be running them slower, because of the increased overhead of 64-bit.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Just for the record, the FX isn't a Socket 754 chip, it's a Socket 940 chip.

exactly :p
Id go 940 but I havent really seen anything I like yet...and besides Ill go socket 940 when the dualie NF3 hits....and I stop being lazy and buy it LOL


Originally posted by: myocardia

No, this is the first time in this entire thread that you have mentioned 64-bit. What you think is native for any processor doesn't concern me in the slightest. And I think that that link proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that a 2.5ghz Barton will destroy a socket 754 chip, which is what you had said you were going to buy. And lastly, you keep holding your breath on having 64-bit apps readily available in the near future, because a 64-bit OS won't be running the 32-bit apps any faster at all, and will more than likely be running them slower, because of the increased overhead of 64-bit.

No its not the first time man. I posted it up above if you scroll a little youll see it.
Native ground is 64bit for the A64's what the hell do you think they were made for?
and your link does NOT prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt...all I see is an OCed chip tagging behind a STOCK chip...sure the scores are getting closer...but point being the chip is still OCed. And so what if I said Im buying a 754 chip? Last I checked you werent working my job so YOU shouldnt give a flying rats azz about what I but. As far as holding my breath goes....no, Im actually intersted in the 64bit stuff very much so as a matter of fact. Ive got to play with a 3000+ system and Ill tell you something...it sure felt alot more "peppy" than my current rig...and that thing wasnt even OCed and it was useing no name ram...I enjoyed it very much so.
Also as far as encoding goes...I rarely do any encoding so thats a moot point...and even if I do...I can leave the system run for the whole hour or two it takes to encode a movie...no loss to me. But I must thank you for turning my thread into a nothing more than a "parts" comparison...somehting of which this wasnt intended to be
 

chsh1ca

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Originally posted by: myocardia
No, this is the first time in this entire thread that you have mentioned 64-bit. What you think is native for any processor doesn't concern me in the slightest. And I think that that link proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that a 2.5ghz Barton will outperform any socket 754 chip, which is what you had said you were going to buy. And lastly, you keep holding your breath on having 64-bit apps readily available in the near future, because a 64-bit OS won't be running the 32-bit apps any faster at all, and will more than likely be running them slower, because of the increased overhead of 64-bit.
Damn, I'm glad you told, me, I might've thought that the doubling of the registers and native 64-bit capabilities would actually improve performance as evidenced by these opteron benches. I take it you don't actually know a lot about programming and appropriate use of precision. Oh, by the way, 64bit OSes are already here, and have been for some time. Consider that NT used to run on a 64-bit processor, and this isn't exactly stunningly new. The desktop implementation and the whole slew of other changes to the architecture itself are what make the AMD-64 processors stand out.

 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Just for the record, the FX isn't a Socket 754 chip, it's a Socket 940 chip.
And just where did I say that any FX chip was a socket 754. If you had read what I had said, instead of believing what you want to believe, as you seem to have done for this entire thread, you would have seen that I repeatedly differentiated between the FX's and the socket 754 chips, which means that I know they are different.
 

VisableAssassin

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Just for the record, the FX isn't a Socket 754 chip, it's a Socket 940 chip.
And just where did I say that any FX chip was a socket 754. If you had read what I had said, instead of believing what you want to believe, as you seem to have done for this entire thread, you would have seen that I repeatedly differentiated between the FX's and the socket 754 chips, which means that I know they are different.

He was referencing to the link you submitted....it was a socket 940 chip...nothing more...jesus man WTF is your problem you on a "lash out at everyone" mood today? Not enough hugs as a kid or what?
Now im gonna ask nicely unless you can post something worthwhile or somehting that contributes to what the thread was started over...stop posting in here, YOU are screwing up MY thread..of which I do not appreciate very much
 

JBT

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Give a beer sign if you think myocardia is just being an ass and needs to get over whatever his problem is. So we can get back on topic...

:beer: :beer: :beer:
 

Jeff7181

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Actually an Athlon XP2500 @ 2.5 Ghz isn't quite as fast... I've only tested it once... but my Barton @ 2.5 Ghz didn't score over 100 FPS in the UT2k3 botmatch benchmark... doesn't the A64 3000+ score over 100 FPS in the same benchmark?
 

Megatomic

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myocardia, please help yourself to a :beer: or six (if it is legally allowable for you to do so), you need to relax. :)
 

chsh1ca

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:beer: :beer: :beer:

Definitely, chill man. ;)

As for the actual topic here, yeah, these XP Mobiles are lookin like a good upgrade, considering you can overclock the hell out of 'em. I'd likely be hampered by my cheapo Asus A7V8X but I am definitely going to pick one of these up in the next couple of months, barring some large windfall of cash that will enable me to pick up a new A64 box. ;)