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JSt0rm

Lifer
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There is that angry indignation again. Maybe if you type in caps you can scare enough people from posting in this thread.

I don't care where people post. I'm well aware of how this subforum works. None of it matters. I come here to view the retardation that has consumed the religious right. It amuses me.

The point is this is a local issue and if people dont like it then they can oust those who made it happen.
 

DucatiMonster696

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I don't care where people post. I'm well aware of how this subforum works. None of it matters. I come here to view the retardation that has consumed the religious right. It amuses me.

The point is this is a local issue and if people dont like it then they can oust those who made it happen.

So no one can comment or discuss on local issues happening somewhere else period?

Do you understand the full breath of what you are saying?

That means no one should have a right to post about events which happen in say Libya, Eygpt, Texas, Washington D.C., etc because they are not residents of those nations, states or cities. Your entire premise is nothing more then a way to stifle conversation about topics or situations you rather not have others discuss for some odd reason.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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So no one can comment or discuss on local issues happening somewhere else period?

Do you understand the full breath of what you are saying?

That means no one should have a right to post about events which happen in say Libya, Eygpt, Texas, Washington D.C., etc because they are not residents of those nations, states or cities. Your entire premise is nothing more then a way to stifle conversation about topics or situations you rather not have others discuss for some odd reason.

Yes thats what I meant. No one can talk about any news issue ever again. :'(

However,

I will accept you as my peasant adviser and repeal my decree. ():)

You may all now talk about local issues again. However if you cry about a issue being a local one when it involves guns, crosses, intelligent design OR the 10 commandments I will point out the cognitive dissonance when you cry about another local that makes laws for themselves.
 

Schadenfroh

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Yawn, let me know when it actually looks like it is going to pass. I am sure crazier things have made it this far in the past and quietly died.

I am not well versed on the subject, I know it is originally a Jewish practice, does Islam require it or is it "optional" like in (most denominations of) Christianity?
 

JSt0rm

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Yawn, let me know when it actually looks like it is going to pass. I am sure crazier things have made it this far and the past and quietly died.

I am not well versed on the subject, I know it is originally a Jewish practice, does Islam require it or is it "optional" like in (most denominations of) Christianity?

This is pretty much how I feel about the issue.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Yes thats what I meant. No one can talk about any news issue ever again. :'(

However,

I will accept you as my peasant adviser and repeal my decree. ():)

You may all now talk about local issues again. However if you cry about a issue being a local one when it involves guns, crosses, intelligent design OR the 10 commandments I will point out the cognitive dissonance when you cry about another local that makes laws for themselves.

Okay Mr. Hypocrisy.
 

PeshakJang

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I don't see how circumcision laws and happy meal bans are going to put San Francisco at risk for bankruptcy. It's massive employee pay and benefits are a much bigger threat, but SF has a healthy tax base.

I think think these SF policies are a waste of time but some of these concerns you guys are having are a bit ridiculous. Religious freedom is a better argument.

Which is why I said, let them do whatever they want, as long as I don't have to pay for it.

If they want to focus their government's time on stupid shit like this instead of dealing with their massive budget problems, then more power too them. I enjoy living in a state where my politicians (at least some of them) focus on the important issues, to try and ensure that our state remains solvent. When my state winds up having to pay for your state's lack of responsibility, then it becomes a problem.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I was just getting ready to type all this.

I thought neocons were all about local governments being able to govern locally? Or is that only when it involves crosses and the 10 commandments?

I'm glad you support AZs illegal alien policies.


Anyway, this won't last as when it gets to a higher court as it will be struck down as unconstitutional. Only the dumb would have to ask why.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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I'm glad you support AZs illegal alien policies.


Anyway, this won't last as when it gets to a higher court as it will be struck down as unconstitutional. Only the dumb would have to ask why.

I already said I was gonna go get an apartment there and set it up full of slaves who will be afraid to dial 911.
 

Steeplerot

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I do live in SF

No way, your postings totally smell of castro valley or somewhere way out. Don't go fronting on the city, use the term Bay Area and keep your meth lab suburbs out of the 415.

And who gives a shit about mc d's They suck anyhow, we have much better local food in a city with more per capita restaurants then anywhere else. Good riddance if they did leave.

We have no wal marts either, we also have a thriving local economy with good paying family sized jobs unlike other parts of the USA.
 
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Greenman

Lifer
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No way, your postings totally smell of castro valley or somewhere way out. Don't go fronting on the city, use the term Bay Area and keep your meth lab suburbs out of the 415.

And who gives a shit about mc d's They suck anyhow, we have much better local food in a city with more per capita restaurants then anywhere else. Good riddance if they did leave.

We have no wal marts either, we also have a thriving local economy with good paying family sized jobs unlike other parts of the USA.

You're a pretty funny fellow. SF is a city of crumbling infrastructure, high taxes, and all the drugs and crime you could ask for. The board of supervisors are a troop of fools that like nothing more than making the city a "safe haven" for whatever form of degenerate is trendy that week.

Get out while you can.
 

Steeplerot

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Sounds like any other US City if you want to focus on the negative. The fact that our idiot supervisors get so much airtime gossip is funny, we have more in one block then your state capitals do, of course you guys are hatin.
 

Moonbeam

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Many people are choosing to skip out on the San Francisco "experience" and are opting for Walnut Creek.

(By "experience" I mean getting accosted by homeless and having the streets smell like urine)

Walnut Creek, Hahahahahahaha
 

Moonbeam

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Circumcision is nothing more than genital mutilation of children. It should be totally illegal until the age of 21, at which time it will cease to exist as an option for any rational individual.
 

Steeplerot

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Walnut Creek, Hahahahahahaha

Even Picard facepalm gifs fail on this one. :hmm:

I swear he said Napa or something earlier, at least they have nice country with mountains wine and fog. Walnut Creek? Didn't Reagan make a movie out there? Meth Valley days?
 

Michael

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I much prefer Pleasanton to Walnut Creek, although my youngest was born in Walnut Creek. Pleasanton has Livermore next door for close by wine tasting.

Michael
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Circumcision is nothing more than genital mutilation of children. It should be totally illegal until the age of 21, at which time it will cease to exist as an option for any rational individual.

I disagree. I had it done and so has my son. I was in no way mutilated, and the statistics show there are medical benefits. This is one case where the government needs to stay out of family business.
 

AnitaPeterson

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I disagree. I had it done and so has my son. I was in no way mutilated, and the statistics show there are medical benefits. This is one case where the government needs to stay out of family business.

Nonsense.
It's genital mutilation, it's barbaric, and makes as much sense - in this day and age - as doping up kids with Ritalin. Try warm water and soap, next time. Your son will thank your dead ass when he reaches a certain age and he'll need Viagra to sustain an erection, because his private parts are no longer naturally sensitive.
 

Amused

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Circumcision is nothing more than genital mutilation of children. It should be totally illegal until the age of 21, at which time it will cease to exist as an option for any rational individual.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=circumcision-penis-microbiome-hiv-infection

Clean-Cut: Study Finds Circumcision Helps Prevent HIV and Other Infections
The first microbiome study of the penis offers some clues as to why removing foreskin cuts the risk of HIV infection in circumcised men

By Carina Storrs | January 13, 2010 | 28
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August 25, 2010

CUTTING HIV RISK: A new study suggests that bacterial changes following circumcision could help protect circumcised men from HIV infection.

The World Health Organization declared three years ago that circumcision should be part of any strategy to prevent HIV infection in men. The organization based its recommendation on three randomized clinical trials in Africa that found the incidence of HIV was 60 percent lower in men who were circumcised. Although this "research evidence is compelling," wrote the WHO panel assigned to the topic, there was little evidence explaining how circumcision might reduce a man's risk of acquiring HIV.

Now comes an answer in a new study, published in the January 6 issue of PLoS ONE, which found that there are gross changes in the penis's microbiome following circumcision, suggesting that shifts in the bacterial environment could account, in part, for the differences in HIV infection. Families of anaerobic bacteria, which are unable to grow in the presence of oxygen, are abundant before circumcision but nearly disappear after the procedure. The researchers suspect that in uncircumcised men, these bacteria may provoke inflammation in the genitalia, thereby improving the chances that immune cells will be in the vicinity for HIV viruses to infect.

"We never knew that there were that many anaerobic bacteria on the uncircumcised penis before [this study]," says Ronald Gray, a reproductive epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and one of the lead authors on the current study. According to a 2006 survey, 56.1 percent of boys in the U.S. are circumcised. In its recommendation, the WHO panel stated that circumcision efforts would be most beneficial in parts of the world where less than 20 percent of boys are circumcised.

Gray, who is also working with one of the three randomized clinical trials on which WHO based its recommendation, adds that, "If we can show that these anaerobic bacteria are associated with HIV, then one could develop microbicides—antiseptics or targeted antibiotics —that might provide protection."

In the current study Gray and his colleagues compared the microbiota of 12 HIV-negative Ugandan men ages 15 to 49 before and after they were circumcised. It was important to limit the study to HIV-negative participants because infection itself can throw off the bacterial environment of the penis, says Lance Price, a research director at the Translational Genomics Research Institute in Flagstaff, Ariz., and co-author on the study. The team collected swabs from an area between the head and shaft of the men's penises before and one year after circumcision. Then the researchers performed polymerase chain reaction analysis of a gene that is shared by, although not identical in, numerous bacterial families. The analysis allowed for identification of different bacterial families as well as abundance counts.

At 12 months after circumcision, the microbiome's predominant bacterial population had shifted fromanaerobic to aerobic, which require oxygen to grow. Whereas the researchers detected similar number of bacteria belonging to aerobic families in circumcised and uncircumcised samples, they found that the abundance of anaerobic family members plummeted after circumcision. As the authors wrote, this decrease makes sense because there is an oxygen-deprived area under the foreskin that is lost after circumcision.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Nonsense.
It's genital mutilation, it's barbaric, and makes as much sense - in this day and age - as doping up kids with Ritalin. Try warm water and soap, next time. Your son will thank your dead ass when he reaches a certain age and he'll need Viagra to sustain an erection, because his private parts are no longer naturally sensitive.

I take it your penis suffers from this condition.